MLB Stadium Saga: Oakland/Tampa Bay/Southside

[Ferdinand Cesarano]

14 hours ago, BBTV said:

If I'm in Miami, there's plenty of things I'm doing besides sitting in a lifeless domed park watching mediocre-at-best baseball.

 

I don't know the Tampa area too well, but I assume there's also plenty of awesome distractions. 

 

Well, every city has plenty of entertainment options.  Indeed, that's the nature of a city.

[Sport]

Miami has more to do, though. It’s also a weird shape. Most big cities are round. Miami is a straight line. 

[FiddySicks]

1 hour ago, Digby said:

We were also delightfully and blissfully starry-eyed about westward expansion when teams moved to LA, whereas anyone paying attention now can see the Vegas population boom as unsustainable and that this all will be a weird bubble when looked back upon in 100 years. Will at least be interesting engineering as each new, redundant giant venue in Vegas comes up with new technology in water recycling.

Bingo. 100% this. 

[TBGKon]

53 minutes ago, Sport said:

Miami has more to do, though. It’s also a weird shape. Most big cities are round. Miami is a straight line. 

Much like the Rays in St Petersburg, and to an effect Tampa.  Much of the surrounding area is water

[The_Admiral]

58 minutes ago, Sport said:

Miami has more to do, though. It’s also a weird shape. Most big cities are round. Miami is a straight line. 

Driving even just from like Boca Raton to Ft. Lauderdale on 95, about halfway through you're just like "man, this sucks."

[BBTV]

1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

 

Well, every city has plenty of entertainment options.  Indeeed, that's the nature of a city.

Many cities don’t have great - or at least warm - weather year round with beach activities available every day. 
 

im willing to be that the entertainment activities available in Miami or Tampa in March are a little more than what’s available in Kansas City or Minneapolis or Philadelphia or… etc. 

[Ferdinand Cesarano]

6 minutes ago, BBTV said:

1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

Well, every city has plenty of entertainment options.  Indeed, that's the nature of a city.

Many cities don’t have great - or at least warm - weather year round with beach activities available every day. 
 

im willing to be that the entertainment activities available in Miami or Tampa in March are a little more than what’s available in Kansas City or Minneapolis or Philadelphia or… etc. 

 

It's true that not every city has the beaches that Florida cities can boast.  But if you look at the full breadth of things to do instead of going to sporting event, a list which includes restaurants, live music, theatre, museums, etc., I think that you'll find that every place that we think of as a city will have an enormous variety.

[BBTV]

33 minutes ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

 

It's true that not every city has the beaches that Florida cities can boast.  But if you look at the full breadth of things to do instead of going to sporting event, a list which includes restaurants, live music, theatre, museums, etc., I think that you'll find that every place that we think of as a city will have an enormous variety.

but I’m not going to sit inside a soulless warehouse when there’s a million things to do outside in light. That’s more my point - that they need these depressing facilities that feel (at least as an outside observer) like a place I wouldt be able to wait to get out of.   Seems like the kind of atmosphere that people move to Florida to get away from. 

[Sport]

Marlins Park feels like you're watching baseball played inside an airport, which was even more true when they had the giant airport looking sculpture. I think they totally whiffed. 

[The_Admiral]

They got about halfway through making the entire ballpark an unprecedented stadium-as-modern-art-installation, got bored or distracted, and finished it by just redoing Miller Park. It's truly a testament to the organization's commitment to giving up on itself.

[DCarp1231]

Occasionally, the failed Tampa-Montreal Rays situation pops into my head

[GDAWG]

 

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[WestCoastBias]

Add Salt Lake City to the list of possible expansion/relocation cities (Las Vegas, Portland, Nashville, Montreal).

[GrayJ12]

26 minutes ago, WestCoastBias said:

Add Salt Lake City to the list of possible expansion/relocation cities (Las Vegas, Portland, Nashville, Montreal).

I know SLC has had a boom over the past few decades due to the 02 Olympics and their tourist industry, but I feel like they are in a weak position - they would be probably the smallest market in MLB.

[GDAWG]

Isn't there some sort of state law where no Utah teams play at home on Sundays?  

[MJWalker45]

Just now, GDAWG said:

Isn't there some sort of state law where no Utah teams play at home on Sundays?  

I think BYU has that rule, but it's not a state law. My old college used to have a Sunday rule until they moved from NAIA to NCAA Division II. 

[McCall]

1 hour ago, WestCoastBias said:

Add Salt Lake City to the list of possible expansion/relocation cities (Las Vegas, Portland, Nashville, Montreal).

Expansion? Maybe (but probably unlikely).

Relocation? Doubtful. Can't imagine the A's or Rays passing over Vegas, Nashville or Montreal... or Charlotte... or San Antonio/Austin... or New Jersey... for Salt Lake City. Nothing against the city, sports or otherwise, but those two teams would have their pick of where to move, if they were to move. I just don't see Salt Lake being more appealing than their other options.

[GDAWG]

13 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

I think BYU has that rule, but it's not a state law. My old college used to have a Sunday rule until they moved from NAIA to NCAA Division II. 

 

So the rule is not state law, but it's out of respect for the Mormon religion.  Which is why the Jazz and Real Salt Lake play road games on Sundays and why the NFL would never work in Utah (among other reasons).