Dilbert Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 http://www.theahl.com/AHL/News/2004/11/09/707175.htmlAccording to The AHL, the St.Louis Blues have sold their AAA team , Worcester Ice Cats, to a couple of Peoria business leaders. They plan to move the team in 2005 to Peoria, Illinois. They currently opperate the ECHL Peoria Rivermen.Sad to see Worcester go, but glad to see the AHL expanding more in the west.At this point the AHL will have 3 new teams next year Iowa(Des Moines)Stars(Dallas)Toronto(former St.John's)(Toronto)Peoria(former Worcester) (St.Louis) Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kj Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 So, now they're doing to Worchester what they did to Peoria? How odd... Buy some t-shirts and stuff at KJ Shop! KJ Branded | Behance portfolio POTD 2013-08-22 On 7/14/2012 at 2:20 AM, tajmccall said: When it comes to style, ya'll really should listen to Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Well, so much for that new logo the Ice Cats have.... I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMMF Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Well, so much for that new logo the Ice Cats have.... Unless they didn't sell the name and logo rights. You might see the IceCats pop up again. While logistically horrible, Calgary does not have an A affiliate. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 Yes. Like the Article says Worcester could have a new team for next year Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Wow. The original Springfield Indians end up in Peoria. Who would of thought!? On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 According to the Peoria Rivermen website the Peoria AHL team will go by the Peoria Rivermen and will have the current ECHL teams logo,colors, etc. Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 With the relocation of Worcester to Peoria, I have come up with my idea of the alignment for 2005-06Eastern ConfNortheast DivPortland PiratesManchester MonarchsLowell Lock MonstersSpringfield FalconsProvidence BruinsNorth DivAlbany River RatsBinghamton SenatorsHartford Wolf PackHamilton BulldogsToronto Hockey ClubSouth DivBridgeport Sound TigersWilkes-Barre/Scranton PenguinsHershey BearsPhiladelphia PhantomsNorfolk AdmiralsWESTERN CONFEast DivRochester AmericansSyracuse CrunchCleveland BaronsCincinnati Mighty DucksCentral DivGrand Rapids GriffinsMilwaukee AdmiralsChicago WolvesPeoria RivermenIowa StarsWest DivManitoba MooseSan Antonio RampageHouston AerosEdmonton Road RunnersUtah GrizzliesAgain just an idea. Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Something doesn't seem right about having an East Division in the Western Conference I'm hoping the AHL finally gets that 30th club to give every NHL team an affiliate... and here's hoping for some stability in the A. --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesCraven Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I think it would be better to have all the New York State-based teams (Binghampton, Rochester, Albany, Syracuse) in one division with Hartford in that same division, like this:EASTERN CONFERENCEATLANTIC DIVISIONBridgeportManchesterProvidenceSpringfieldNew Worchester FranchiseEMPIRE DIVISIONHartfordBinghamptonRochesterSyarcuseAlbanyNORTHERN DIVISIONNew Toronto FranchiseManitobaEdmontonHamiltonPortland, MEWESTERN CONFERENCEMID-ALANTIC DIVISIONPhiladelphiaWilkes Barre/ScrantonHersheyNorfolkGREAT LAKES DIVISIONCincinnatiClevelandGrand RapidsChicagoMIlwaukeeCENTRAL DIVISIONIowaUtahSan AntonioHoustonPeoria "I better go take a long walk off a short pier or something."Some people on this bolard have told me to do just that.My "Ron Mexico" alias is "Jon Tobago". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budbowl77 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 you know something..what ever happened to the AHL being committed to having teams in Prince Edward Island, Quebec, Saint John? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 you know something..what ever happened to the AHL being committed to having teams in Prince Edward Island, Quebec, Saint John? Well, those teams all folded.Me, I'd just like to see the Moose and the Wolves in the same division again...back in the I, those were the games closest in intensity to the old Jets-Blackhawks games...always chippy, always exciting. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 I think it would be better to have all the New York State-based teams (Binghampton, Rochester, Albany, Syracuse) in one division with Hartford in that same division, like this:EASTERN CONFERENCEATLANTIC DIVISIONBridgeportManchesterProvidenceSpringfieldNew Worchester FranchiseEMPIRE DIVISIONHartfordBinghamptonRochesterSyarcuseAlbanyNORTHERN DIVISIONNew Toronto FranchiseManitobaEdmontonHamiltonPortland, MEWESTERN CONFERENCEMID-ALANTIC DIVISIONPhiladelphiaWilkes Barre/ScrantonHersheyNorfolkGREAT LAKES DIVISIONCincinnatiClevelandGrand RapidsChicagoMIlwaukeeCENTRAL DIVISIONIowaUtahSan AntonioHoustonPeoria Nah, Peoria and Chicago need to be in the same division. It just hasnt been right without Cleveland in the other divison from the Ducks. Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalieboy82 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 does anyone have pic of the new ice cats jerseys? so long and thanks for all the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMMF Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 EASTERN CONFERENCENORTHERN DIVISIONNew Toronto FranchiseManitobaEdmontonHamiltonPortland, ME How the hell can you call it the Eastern conference when it contains your westernmost team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 How the hell can you call it the Eastern conference when it contains your westernmost team? Hey St. John's is currently in the WESTERN conference.Edmonton's there because they want it in the same division as the other Canadian teams I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I'd go with either...EASTERN CONFERENCENortheast DivisionLowell Lock MonstersManchester MonarchsPortland PiratesProvidence BruinsWorcester Ice CatsEmpire DivisionAlbany River RatsBridgeport Sound TigersHartford Wolf PackSpringfield FalconsSyracuse CrunchMid-Atlantic DivisionBinghamton SenatorsHershey BearsNorfolk AdmiralsPhiladelphia PhantomsWilkes-Barre/Scranton PenguinsWESTERN CONFERENCEGreat Lakes DivisionCincinnati Mighty DucksCleveland BaronsHamilton BulldogsRochester AmericansToronto Minor LeafsMidwest DivisionChicago WolvesGrand Rapids GriffinsIowa StarsMilwaukee AdmiralsPeoria RivermenWest DivisionEdmonton RoadrunnersHouston AerosManitoba MooseSan Antonio RampageUtah GrizzliesOr...EASTERN CONFERENCENew England Division (or Northeast Division)Bridgeport Sound TigersHartford Wolf PackLowell Lock MonstersManchester MonarchsPortland PiratesProvidence BruinsSpringfield FalconsWorcester Ice CatsMid-Atlantic DivisionAlbany River RatsBinghamton SenatorsHershey BearsNorfolk AdmiralsPhiladelphia PhantomsRochester AmericansSyracuse CrunchWilkes-Barre/Scranton PenguinsWESTERN CONFERENCECentral DivisionChicago WolvesCincinnati Mighty DucksCleveland BaronsGrand Rapids GriffinsHamilton BulldogsMilwaukee AdmiralsToronto Minor LeafsWest DivisionEdmonton RoadrunnersHouston AerosIowa StarsManitoba MoosePeoria RivermenSan Antonio RampageUtah Grizzlies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Yeah...that second one, Brian. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesCraven Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 "Hey, St. John's is currently in the WESTERN Conference. Edmonton's there because they want it in the same division as the other Canadian teams." Amen, brother quadival to that. Why'd you think I made the divisions up? To foster regional rivalries, although what Portland, Maine is to Canada sometimes makes geography unusual.Of course, this set up would be subject to other franchise moves or bug-eyed dreaming. "I better go take a long walk off a short pier or something."Some people on this bolard have told me to do just that.My "Ron Mexico" alias is "Jon Tobago". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapshot Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I tried to put this post through last night, but somehow the connection elves were at it again...There used to be an Empire Division in the AHL, most of the teams in it were in New York state...Adirondack Red Wings, Rochester Americans, Albany River Rats (or Utica Devils), Binghamton Rangers, Syracuse Crunch. Might have been a few more teams in there as well.Portland wouldn't be in a division with all Canadian teams. It's one thing to have all the Canadian teams in one division, since there are only 5 or 6 of them. But Portland's main and closest rivals are in the other New England states.As beneficial as this move is for St. Louis (having an affiliate closer to them), I'm afraid it might set a precedent for other New England teams to move out. Lowell has been near bottom in attendance, along with one of its parents. Springfield isn't too far away from Lowell. The trend lately has been to expand to larger cities, like Toronto/Edmonton, San Antonio, Cleveland. There are still many cities larger than the average AHL host that don't have major league hockey, or at least AAA.Some cities are even supporting 2 teams...Edmonton, Chicago, Philadelphia. The smaller cities that have helped grow the AHL to almost 30 teams will get pushed aside in favor of even larger cities, which will leave the ECHL or other AA-level minor league teams to come into the area. I don't think this level will draw that large a crowd, at least not in New England.Here in this area, the "heirarchy" or hockey goes like this...NHL, NCAA, AHL. I think the Providence Bruins get a much larger crowd than Providence College, but PC plays in a 2,500 seat arena, where the Bruins play in the 13,500 seat Dunkin Donuts Center.Hockey doesn't generate the same fans as baseball. Baseball brings in the numbers, especially with a Red Sox affiliate. The short season A Lowell Spinners sell out their 5,000 seat stadium every game. The LockMonsters average 3,000 at best. I'm one of the 3,000. If the AHL moves away and the ECHL or UHL moves in, I might still go once in a while, but I'd rather see closer to NHL prospects and quality players. Talking to other fans, that feeling is commonplace.If you go by arena size, Lowell again is near the bottom at 6,400. Portland is about 6,000; Springfield the same. Across the league, the only other teams I know of around the same capacity areas are St. John's, Binghamton, Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, Bridgeport and Syracuse. St. John's is moving out after this season.I worry about the state of pro hockey in New England after this move out of Worcester. Good news for Peoria, not good for Worcester. Back-to-Back Fatal Forty Champion 2015 & 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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