goalieboy82 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 is there a deal for the nhl yet. thanks so long and thanks for all the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 is there a deal for the nhl yet. thanks TSN.caSportsnet.caCBS SportslineESPN.comNHL.comThe Sporting NewsYahoo! NewsCNNsi.com --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 So it's at 1 pm Eastern now. I guess Bud Selig took over the NHL. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 So it's at 1 pm Eastern now. I guess Bud Selig took over the NHL. The times haven't changed. Bettman gave the PA until 11 to accept, in advance of the 1:00 presser.At 11:00, EJ Hradek still felt that the league would put forth one final "final offer" with a cap around $45M -- putting the final call in the hands of the union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 is there a deal for the nhl yet. thanks TSN.caSportsnet.caCBS SportslineESPN.comNHL.comThe Sporting NewsYahoo! NewsCNNsi.com NHL news as the main story on ESPN.com? I'm shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaolinaJoe Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I like how they portray it as only 6.5 apart. Spread that over the league and that's 195 million.Also the owners offer offer of 42.7 included 2.2 for benefits, while the players 49 offer didn't. So if you add the benefits into the players deal, then they are 255 million apart. Because you know the players still want their benefits, they're just using some creative PR math. "It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of thepress. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom ofspeech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given usthe freedom to demonstrate. And it is the soldier who salutes theflag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, andwho allows the protester to burn the flag."Marine Chaplain Dennis Edward O' Brien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I like how they portray it as only 6.5 apart. Spread that over the league and that's 195 million.Also the owners offer offer of 42.7 included 2.2 for benefits, while the players 49 offer didn't. So if you add the benefits into the players deal, then they are 255 million apart. Because you know the players still want their benefits, they're just using some creative PR math. Even when the league was uncapped, you still had teams under $30M in payroll. The implementation of a cap isn't going to cause these teams to go into a spending frenzy. They'll still sit in their comfort zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaolinaJoe Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I like how they portray it as only 6.5 apart. Spread that over the league and that's 195 million.Also the owners offer offer of 42.7 included 2.2 for benefits, while the players 49 offer didn't. So if you add the benefits into the players deal, then they are 255 million apart. Because you know the players still want their benefits, they're just using some creative PR math. Even when the league was uncapped, you still had teams under $30M in payroll. The implementation of a cap isn't going to cause these teams to go into a spending frenzy. They'll still sit in their comfort zone. Yeah a cap doesn't help the revenue starved clubs anymore than this lockout does.But, revenue sharing and a bottom threshold of 35 million in spending does force/help 10 teams spend more. "It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of thepress. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom ofspeech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given usthe freedom to demonstrate. And it is the soldier who salutes theflag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, andwho allows the protester to burn the flag."Marine Chaplain Dennis Edward O' Brien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheateater Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 "To hell with those small market teams!" as one owner-type-guy once said (don't know who, so don't ask me). The cap isn't about helping the small market teams, it's about preventing Detroit and Philly and Colorado and New Jersey and Toronto and the Rangers from spending exorbitant amounts of money and taking all the talent in the league. Nashville and Florida and Pittsburgh et al. will never spend anyway, so screw 'em. Just keep the mid-range teams around so they can actually possibly compete with the big guys. Wagner Athletic Group11-2 Saskatoon Steeds (WAFL)-NFL-2014 Western Conference Champions / 8-5 Calgary Pronghorns (TNFF)-CFL-2014 Confederation Cup XI Champions14-6-2 Saskatoon Yellowheads (XHL)-NHL-1st, Gretzky Conference / 5-4-0 Saskatoon Czars (MLH)-AHL-T2nd, Calder Conference7-1-6 VfL Dortmund (Weltliga)-Bundesliga-3rd, League / 5-1-5 West End AFC (WFL)-EPL-T5th, League14-7 Saskatoon Sheiks (AA)-MLB-2014 Founder's Cup Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesCraven Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 It's over. The season's been cancelled. "I better go take a long walk off a short pier or something."Some people on this bolard have told me to do just that.My "Ron Mexico" alias is "Jon Tobago". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbman21 Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 DamnThat's really all I have to say,all that I can say.Just damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boardname Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 f'ing idiots. all of them. especially the owners. but ESPECIALLY the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suigi Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Morons.Jackasses.Dipweeds.Hosers all.You killed the good ol' hockey game.The Stanley Cup will go unawarded, due to greed, stubbornness, and stupidity.Doesn't that feel good?Is your "cost certainty" and "free market" worth making one of the most recognizable trophies in the world grow cobwebs in the Hockey Hall of Fame? Super Wario Comix!Iron Crossover IX Contender (Tied for 6th)Iron Crossover Halloween Contender (Tied for Bronze) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaolinaJoe Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I can't wait for December, so all this can start again. "It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of thepress. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom ofspeech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given usthe freedom to demonstrate. And it is the soldier who salutes theflag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, andwho allows the protester to burn the flag."Marine Chaplain Dennis Edward O' Brien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalieboy82 Posted February 16, 2005 Author Share Posted February 16, 2005 Morons.Jackasses.Dipweeds.Hosers all.You killed the good ol' hockey game.The Stanley Cup will go unawarded, due to greed, stubbornness, and stupidity.Doesn't that feel good?Is your "cost certainty" and "free market" worth making one of the most recognizable trophies in the world grow cobwebs in the Hockey Hall of Fame?f u bettmen. so long and thanks for all the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheateater Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 First off, it's Bettman. Secondly, don't double-post. Third, to blame this all on Bettman is ludicrous. He, Goodenow, the players, and the owners all have an equal share of the blame, and I hope neither GB nor BG get their jobs back once the NHL starts up again. Wagner Athletic Group11-2 Saskatoon Steeds (WAFL)-NFL-2014 Western Conference Champions / 8-5 Calgary Pronghorns (TNFF)-CFL-2014 Confederation Cup XI Champions14-6-2 Saskatoon Yellowheads (XHL)-NHL-1st, Gretzky Conference / 5-4-0 Saskatoon Czars (MLH)-AHL-T2nd, Calder Conference7-1-6 VfL Dortmund (Weltliga)-Bundesliga-3rd, League / 5-1-5 West End AFC (WFL)-EPL-T5th, League14-7 Saskatoon Sheiks (AA)-MLB-2014 Founder's Cup Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMan Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 DAMN THEM ALL DAMN THEM WHY WHY WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHY? "We have nothing to fear except fear itself." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheateater Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I hope baseball and basketball learn from this. Those sports are worse off in terms of fluffed-up economic systems than the NHL. They may not have trouble turning profits, but there is no way any MLB team should be allowed to spend $200 million in one year. Not only does that create a massive disparity between the top team and the ones squeaking by at $40 million, but it's plainly stupid! Baseball needs something a hell of a lot more effective than a luxury tax (Steinbrenner, for one, doesn't give a rat's ass....he'll pay what he needs to try and win), and I foresee a longer shutdown than 1994, and even longer than this year's NHL lockout. Basketball may not be as serious, but they've been watching to see what to do when the NBA's CBA runs out, and I hope for the sake of hoops fans that they don't wait as long before starting to "negotiate."But back to the NHL: fire both Bettman and Goodenow, drop six teams (Nashville, Florida, Anaheim, Phoenix, Atlanta, Carolina, for example) or move 'em to Canada. So they built brand-new arenas? So what? Still ain't puttin' asses in those seats either way.... Wagner Athletic Group11-2 Saskatoon Steeds (WAFL)-NFL-2014 Western Conference Champions / 8-5 Calgary Pronghorns (TNFF)-CFL-2014 Confederation Cup XI Champions14-6-2 Saskatoon Yellowheads (XHL)-NHL-1st, Gretzky Conference / 5-4-0 Saskatoon Czars (MLH)-AHL-T2nd, Calder Conference7-1-6 VfL Dortmund (Weltliga)-Bundesliga-3rd, League / 5-1-5 West End AFC (WFL)-EPL-T5th, League14-7 Saskatoon Sheiks (AA)-MLB-2014 Founder's Cup Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclopsis Joe Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I agree completely!Let's take baseball out of the South and West, NASCAR out of everywhere but the Southeast (I hear no complaining about that), Basketball out of the west, and Football out of the west.Hell, let's take it one step further: No football in North America, because it's developed off of Rugby in Europe. No Baseball either, it's based on Cricket. A Grand idea. I don't speak for democrats, democrats don't speak for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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