logodawg Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 I'm not a fan of the current MSU football unis. In fact I thought the school's look was back in circa 1997 in all sports. With this concept I tried to keep pretty simple as State has always had more or less simple football unis. I did add some simple piping just to break-up all the solids.Anyway, C+C as always. I once had a car but I crashed it. I once had a guitar but I smashed it. I once, wait where am I going with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJTALBOT Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 Nice work.However, I just say no to green pants.The wordmark you used was created by Reebock.That's why the basketball unis changed - even after the national champs.Bring back the helmet stripe! Everyone loves a roundel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Dave Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Kill the Reebok "bridge" logo and use the current "State" script or the throwback Magic Johnson-era "State" script. The bridge logo wasn't unique to MSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discrim Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 the man in maize and blue's right...I'd seen a variant of that wordmark used by North Texas A strong mind gets high off success, a weak mind gets high off bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logodawg Posted December 27, 2005 Author Share Posted December 27, 2005 Kill the Reebok "bridge" logo and use the current "State" script or the throwback Magic Johnson-era "State" script. The bridge logo wasn't unique to MSU. Funny that Michigan Dave saying not to use something because it's not unique to the school...Princeton called; stop using their helmet I once had a car but I crashed it. I once had a guitar but I smashed it. I once, wait where am I going with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5 Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 Princeton called; stop using their helmetHa ha ha ha ha!Got 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logodawg Posted December 27, 2005 Author Share Posted December 27, 2005 It's the coach's uniform, not the school! Just pointing out the double standard in his thinking. Michigan fans always do that I once had a car but I crashed it. I once had a guitar but I smashed it. I once, wait where am I going with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMcD Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 nice but I would fix the wordmark-no arch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Dave Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 Kill the Reebok "bridge" logo and use the current "State" script or the throwback Magic Johnson-era "State" script. The bridge logo wasn't unique to MSU. Funny that Michigan Dave saying not to use something because it's not unique to the school...Princeton called; stop using their helmet Michigan's football helmet is surely one of the most instantly recognizable icons in college sports. The famous "winged" design dates from 1938 when Coach Herbert O. "Fritz" Crisler arrived from Princeton to begin a new era in Michigan football. Even as the design and composition of helmets evolved from stitched cowhide to high-tech, molded plastic, the winged design has remained the pre-eminent symbol of Michigan football. Other Michigan athletic teams have adopted the winged design for their own headgear as well. Helmets through the ages After winning national titles in 1932 and 1933, Michigan had gone four years without a winning season and team morale had suffered accordingly. Coach Harry Kipke left a core of veterans and some very promising sophomores, but one of Crisler's first tasks was to instill a new attitude in the team. Known as a wily tactician and motivator, Crisler introduced the new helmet and changes in the Wolverine's uniform to mark the beginning of a new era. As 1938 captain Fred Jahnke recalled in 1987, "Just before the opener, the old black helmets were replaced with a wing type of today's style; form fitting wool pants allowed freer movement and the old "M" jersey became the tear away kind." In Crisler's recollection, "Michigan had a plain black helmet and we wanted to dress it up a bit."The distinctive helmet would also have practical advantages on the field. Crisler figured the helmet would help his quarterbacks find receivers downfield. "There was a tendency to use different colored helmets just for receivers in those days, but I always thought that would be as helpful for the defense as for the offense," Crisler recalled. In any event, the new helmet made a successful debut in the 1938 season opener against Michigan State. The Wolverines defeated the Spartans 14-0 behind two touchdown runs by sophomore Paul Kromer to gain their first win over Michigan State in four years. Whether the helmet helped the passing game is hard to say, Michigan completed four of eight attempts for 46 yards with no interceptions. The game certainly marked a change in Michigan's football fortunes. The Michigan Alumnus commented, "Michigan has a fighting gridiron outfit once more; a team that knows how to do things and a burning desire-and considerable ability-to do what it wants." Oddly, none of the newspaper accounts of the game make mention of the new helmet.Crisler's first team went on to compile a 6-1-1 record and tie for second in the conference. Whether attributable to the new helmet or not, the passing game improved significantly over 1937's final statistics; total yardage nearly doubled, interceptions were cut nearly in half and completion percentage was up by nine percent.Some accounts of the actual design of the new helmet have sometimes suggested Crisler came up with the idea out of whole cloth. In fact, the previous year Crisler had introduced a helmet at Princeton that should look remarkably familiar to Wolverine fans. The winged design simply took advantage of features of a helmet the Spalding sporting goods company first advertised in the 1937 edition the Official Intercollegiate Football Guide. Crisler's 1938 innovation at Michigan was to paint the helmet maize and blue. His predecessor, Harry Kipke, had also experimented with special markings on the helmets in 1937. Fortunately, though, his designs did not catch-on. The A.G. Spalding & Bros. Company, the nation's largest supplier of football equipment, first advertised its model FH5 helmet in the 1937 Official Intercollegiate Football Guide. The helmet is described as "National federation H.S.A.A. approved. A streamlined helmet of tan and black leather. Air-Lite cushion rubber padded and leather lined. Six point suspension straps in crown. Ventilating holes in crown, back and ear pieces. Slide chin strap. Each, $10.00." Spalding marketed a number of helmet models that featured the "wing" design. The wing provided additional protective padding and helped bind the earpieces to the crown. The FH5 model was the only one featuring three straps running from front-to-back. One model featured a single strap running front-to-back and another running side-to-side. Other models had a one-piece crown. Michigan's FH5 model came only in black and tan while those with a one-piece crown could be ordered n any school colors for an additional fee.Michigan State had adopted its version of a "winged helmet" several years earlier. Tom Harmon, shown here in the 1939 game, breaks away from several Spartans wearing a different model of Spalding's wing design. The Spartans wore several models of the Spalding winged helmet until 1948 when they joined the Big Ten and adopted a different style helmet. The leather helmet eventually gave way to synthetic materials, single face bars were added that have since grown into elaborate cages, the simple slide chin strap was replaced with precisely fitted, double snap straps. Advances in design and engineering, some based on research done at Michigan, have greatly increased the protective capabilities of the modern helmet. Through all the changes Michigan has preserved the design Crisler imported from Princeton to "dress up" and add a bit of style to Michigan's look. While other schools changed their look when they switched from the leather helmet, Michigan simply painted the wings and stripes on the new material. There have been a few minor changes to the design over the years. The shape of the wing has been smoothed out a bit, the stripes now extend all the way to the base of the helmet and player numbers were added to the side of the helmet during the years 1959-1968. A design originally based on functional and structural parts of the helmet is now purely decorative. Or maybe it has taken on a new function as symbol of and link to Michigan's great athletic tradition. Hockey coach Red Berenson had toyed with the idea of incorporating the winged design into the Michigan hockey helmets for a number of years. When he distributed winged maize and blue helmets on the eve of a crucial game, it had an electrifying effect on his team. The catcher for the women's softball team proudly wears the winged design on her helmet. Even the swimming team wore the familiar image on its racing caps for a few years. If Fritz Crisler were to return to Michigan Stadium, Yost Arena, or Alumni Field, he would immediately recognize his handiwork. Aside from being a completely different issue, the bridge logo is a Reebok design, and was made for several schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Dave Posted December 28, 2005 Share Posted December 28, 2005 It's the coach's uniform, not the school! Just pointing out the double standard in his thinking. Michigan fans always do that Yes, it is a clear double standard. I mean, hiring a coach who painted the helmet, and then continuing to use it when other schools went away from that style, thus making the winged helmet design on a shell helmet unique, is very similar to using a standard wordmark template designed by Reebok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninersdd Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I dont get the state, its very, very bland BEAR DOWN ARIZONA!2013/14 Tanks Picks Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver2david Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I know it's different, but the piping brings back bad memories... ...but so do the current ones. I agree that the font on the front needs a change, but I don't know if the Nike "State" works there and the Reebok "State" definitely doesn't.****FWIW, Michigan has some classy jerseys. Seriously...well besides that yellow Miami stripe thing on the road jerseys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Sick Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I think the "Triple Stripe" era of Cedric Irvin was the best, maybe darken the green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerboy15 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 nice job i like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFoA Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Am I the only one who thought those were nice? Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackerBadger Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Am I the only one who thought those were nice?Yes. (Hey, you asked.)Seriously: This is one of the few instances where I like the application of piping. I would do two things: Put the names back on the uniforms, and replace the State thingy with "Michigan State," perhaps like the 1966 uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micro32 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Not bad not bad. good job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logodawg Posted January 9, 2006 Author Share Posted January 9, 2006 OK, so I created my own wordmark since the general feel is to drop the State wordmark.Enjoy... I once had a car but I crashed it. I once had a guitar but I smashed it. I once, wait where am I going with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitaminD Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I think I like the wordmark, but it's a strange mix of right angles and curved letters. Very jarring at first, but it's not all that bad. I'm going to have to look a second time. "Start spreading the news... They're leavin' today... Won't get to be a part of it... In old New York..."In order for the Mets' run of 12 losses in 17 games to mean something, the Phillies still had to win 13 of 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskyfan82 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I always liked the S on the helmet, not the Spartan. But overall it does look good. UM fans are probably still bitter at MSU....MSU stole their radio station David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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