Brian in Boston Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Chicago's franchise in Women's Professional Soccer has announced the launch of its "Name the Team Sweepstakes". The candidate names are:1871BluesMassacreProgressRed StarsRiotStinking OnionsTowersUnionWindLog-on to http://www.womensprosoccer.com/form_ektekfrm1940.aspx to cast votes for your top three choices.All I can say is, "Wow... just, wow." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Stinking Onions is clearly a joke entry - legend has it that the origin of the name "Chicago" translates to "stinking onion field." Red Stars, on the other hand, is quite a fine name which could lend itself to a solid identity. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gueman Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 What? No Cunning Runts? Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. P. J. O'Rourke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappital92 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Chicago Progress. That sounds like a Barack Obama soundbite. http://www.wizardsxtra.com Is it the shoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManCalledAmp Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Horrible. Absolutely horrible.I guess Blues, Union, or Towers are about the only ones I could see out of that list. Maybe, MAYBE Wind, for obvious reasons, but it seems too simple and yet too forced. Breeze, Zephyrs, "Windies/Windys"...but just "Wind?"Chicago Blues sounds okay, but it doesn't have the same oomph of Memphis, New Orleans, Seattle, etc. (Granted, wikipedia does show that I'm apparently musically ill informed, as the Chicago blues were a pretty big deal. I feel a tad silly now...)Union sounds like an attempt to play off the "Europoseur" naming trends...a different spin on "United" that I think sounds pretty cool...except that it makes me think Rugby Union, not Assoc Football.And Towers? Well, if it's good enough for the Sky...Eh, call me a Commie but I think the Euro route is the way this team needs to go to set itself apart from the kitchy-named opponents which we're sure to hear about soon (Boston Breakers, I will admit, is a good name; Washington Freedom is decent...and wtf is up with NY/NJ SkyBlue?).Just imagine how beautiful this could look on a crest....or heck, go the original-MLS route and fill up the jersey with it:United AFC Sporting Chicago Atletico 1871.Imagine it.But as far as Red Star goes? It's bold, brandable imagery. I just see them having a hard time overcoming the "Red Star = Communist/Soviets" kneejerk response. I know that's what I think of, even when I hear about Red Star Belgrade, and though it was formed in USSR Yugoslavia, it is in what is now Serbia. Go Gators. Go Blue Raiders. Go Commodores. Go USC Trojans.Preds & Avs. Braves, Rays, & Dodgers. Titans, Colts, Broncos, Cardinals. Grizzlies. 14ers, Jam. Team Spirit + Laziness = Yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 But as far as Red Star goes? It's bold, brandable imagery. I just see them having a hard time overcoming the "Red Star = Communist/Soviets" kneejerk response. I know that's what I think of, even when I hear about Red Star Belgrade, and though it was formed in USSR Yugoslavia, it is in what is now Serbia.I can see the Soviet tie-in, but as a Chicagoan, the name "Red Stars" immediately links to the four red stars on the iconic Chicago flag in my mind, a look which was almost universally embraced when the Fire donned it on their alternates for an all-too-brief period.And this company doesn't seem to have an issue with it. They're actually fairly prominent in the city.Though if the team's gonna take on a shirt sponsor, this might be the direction to take. Now go on and make with the jokes, gents. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Red Stars strike me as being the best of a poor lot.1871? Seriously? Where does it say in the city charter that every soccer team in the city must allude to the Great Chicago Fire? On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I voted for Stinking Onions #1, with no #2 or #3 choices. I think it'd be appropriate for everyone to do likewise, simply to show the powers that be that sometimes making a joke can backfire.That aside, almost every one of those names suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 The name Chicago will choose is The Towers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Red Stars strike me as being the best of a poor lot.1871? Seriously? Where does it say in the city charter that every soccer team in the city must allude to the Great Chicago Fire?Leave it to Chicago to actually want to name teams after a disaster that destroyed their city... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallWonk Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 In the spirit of the WUSA Women's Professional Soccer, I felt obliged to vote for Chicago Wind. It's the only name that really works within the whole women's-soccer-name paradigm.However, I'm with those who actually prefer Red Stars among the seriously deficient choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremyb Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Definition of a Massacre, the intentional killing of a consderable number of human beings, under the circumstances of atrocity or creulity. Massacre include Beslan School, Columbine High School. Tianenmen Square and the list goes on and on.And this seems to be acceptable name for a womens soccer team, shame, shame, shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack76 Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Definition of a Massacre, the intentional killing of a consderable number of human beings, under the circumstances of atrocity or creulity. Massacre include Beslan School, Columbine High School. Tianenmen Square and the list goes on and on.And this seems to be acceptable name for a womens soccer team, shame, shame, shameIt was supposed to say "mascara." Nice work, spellcheck.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totc Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Definition of a Massacre, the intentional killing of a consderable number of human beings, under the circumstances of atrocity or creulity. Massacre include Beslan School, Columbine High School. Tianenmen Square and the list goes on and on.And this seems to be acceptable name for a womens soccer team, shame, shame, shameIt was supposed to say "mascara." Nice work, spellcheck....If the men's team is the Fire (conjuring up the image of first-responders), shouldn't the women's team be the Auxiliary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totc Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Red Stars strike me as being the best of a poor lot.1871? Seriously? Where does it say in the city charter that every soccer team in the city must allude to the Great Chicago Fire?Or every team in Houston refer to the Alamo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illwauk Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Red Stars strike me as being the best of a poor lot.1871? Seriously? Where does it say in the city charter that every soccer team in the city must allude to the Great Chicago Fire?Or every team in Houston refer to the Alamo?Pssst... the Alamo is in San Antonio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsFanBudMan Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Red Stars strike me as being the best of a poor lot.1871? Seriously? Where does it say in the city charter that every soccer team in the city must allude to the Great Chicago Fire?Or every team in Houston refer to the Alamo?Pssst... the Alamo is in San Antonio...He misremembered the Alamo.Sorry... I agree on most points. Stinking Onions should be the name because they put something that ridiculous on the ballot. I get Red Stars, but people outside Chicago (and this forum) might not -- although if they used the Fire alts as a model that could work. Towers also seems like a frontrunner, although I don't see it for soccer. More minor-league basketball. Masscare, even if you don't consider recent regional events -- no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murtaugh Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 1871? Seriously? Where does it say in the city charter that every soccer team in the city must allude to the Great Chicago Fire?Leave it to Chicago to actually want to name teams after a disaster that destroyed their city...I posted more on this topic elsewhere, but it bears repeating;1871 is probably the best name in terms of both brand unity and flexibility. It can go many directions, still have a salient connection to the Fire, its fanbase, directly identify with Chicago soccer, the city, and still be unique in its own right.It doesn't work well as a traditional American sports nickname. But neither does Fire. Both "Chicago Fire" and "Chicago 1871" function best in association with the city name as part of the club's title. It does allow for any number of nicknames to be generated (like "71s") that make that difficult bridging between having a stand-alone brand and co-branding with the men's club very well. The colors are most likely going to be some variance of Fire colors and those of the Chicago flag; so the connection is there like it or not.As for the comment about references to the Fire; it seems to be a popular derision given by those who don't live here that we revere an event that 'destroyed the city' when in fact it's pretty much the prime reason the city even exists and thrives today. It's a pretty damn important event for a pretty damn important city. NO GRAND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgd Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 1871? Seriously? Where does it say in the city charter that every soccer team in the city must allude to the Great Chicago Fire?Leave it to Chicago to actually want to name teams after a disaster that destroyed their city...I posted more on this topic elsewhere, but it bears repeating;1871 is probably the best name in terms of both brand unity and flexibility. It can go many directions, still have a salient connection to the Fire, its fanbase, directly identify with Chicago soccer, the city, and still be unique in its own right.It doesn't work well as a traditional American sports nickname. But neither does Fire. Both "Chicago Fire" and "Chicago 1871" function best in association with the city name as part of the club's title. It does allow for any number of nicknames to be generated (like "71s") that make that difficult bridging between having a stand-alone brand and co-branding with the men's club very well. The colors are most likely going to be some variance of Fire colors and those of the Chicago flag; so the connection is there like it or not.As for the comment about references to the Fire; it seems to be a popular derision given by those who don't live here that we revere an event that 'destroyed the city' when in fact it's pretty much the prime reason the city even exists and thrives today. It's a pretty damn important event for a pretty damn important city.Right, without the Fire the city wouldn't be the architectural world leader it is today. Young architects from all over the US flocked to Chicago to help rebuild it. The streets were redrawn, the buildings rebuilt, and the debris pushed into the lake to form the area east of Lakeshore drive. It was a horrible event that took the lives of far too many. But it also helped the city recreate itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 1871? Seriously? Where does it say in the city charter that every soccer team in the city must allude to the Great Chicago Fire?Leave it to Chicago to actually want to name teams after a disaster that destroyed their city...I posted more on this topic elsewhere, but it bears repeating;1871 is probably the best name in terms of both brand unity and flexibility. It can go many directions, still have a salient connection to the Fire, its fanbase, directly identify with Chicago soccer, the city, and still be unique in its own right.It doesn't work well as a traditional American sports nickname. But neither does Fire. Both "Chicago Fire" and "Chicago 1871" function best in association with the city name as part of the club's title. It does allow for any number of nicknames to be generated (like "71s") that make that difficult bridging between having a stand-alone brand and co-branding with the men's club very well. The colors are most likely going to be some variance of Fire colors and those of the Chicago flag; so the connection is there like it or not.As for the comment about references to the Fire; it seems to be a popular derision given by those who don't live here that we revere an event that 'destroyed the city' when in fact it's pretty much the prime reason the city even exists and thrives today. It's a pretty damn important event for a pretty damn important city.But there are other events as well in the city's history that are just as important. Also, why do you have to co-brand with the men's team? This team should be able to survive on the merits of its identity alone, without needing to trade off of the other team. Also, while the fire may have made some development in the city possible, to contend that without a dumb cow kicking over a lantern, the city would not be there, completely ignores Chicago's advantageous location for trade and as a hub for the railroad networks.Also...1871 is an attempt to make your team name sound "cool" and "European". This completely ignores that those teams in Europe have year names indicating the year of their founding....not referencing a disaster.Red Stars works well as a purely "Chicago" identity, and may be on the verge of becoming slightly more in the Public eye, as the flag may be modified in a year or two *cough*Olympics bid*cough*. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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