College Football 2023

[Unocal]

25 minutes ago, raysox said:

Still frustrated in this decision, but I think the worst part is accelerating the death of another regional p5 conference

 

The SEC is bigger than the sport, let alone the playoff

 

It's all about those stupid 3 letters and the entitled arrogance of a conference that acts like its their birthright to get handed what they want.

[See Red]

It's wild that the conference that's won 13 of the last 17 national championships gets the benefit of the doubt over the conference that is consistently the worst P5.  Isn't it?

 

I mean, it's pretty telling that Florida State's best win this season is over an LSU team that's good but wasn't really a serious contender in the SEC.

 

[Unocal]

 

Just now, See Red said:

It's wild that the conference that's one 13 of the last 17 national championships gets the benefit of the doubt over the conference that is consistently the worst P5.  Isn't it?

 

 

I mean, it's pretty telling that Florida State's best win this season is over an LSU team that's good but wasn't really a serious contender in the SEC.

 

 

The SEC outside of Alabama/Georgia is mid. Ole Miss? Mizzou? Please!

 

With the 12 team playoff next year, basically the SEC is never gonna be left out of a playoff.

 

God forbid ONE time they don't get their way. One year without the SEC would not have been the end of CFB as we know it.

 

But the committee had no guts

[raysox]

Alabama nearly lost to Arkansas and Auburn with their full starters btw

[Unocal]

The SEC is

Just now, raysox said:

Alabama nearly lost to Arkansas and Auburn with their full starters btw

 

And the committee didn't do a damn thing about it.

[Germanshepherd]

 

[See Red]

17 minutes ago, raysox said:

Alabama nearly lost to Arkansas and Auburn with their full starters btw

 

Florida State almost lost to Boston College with their full starters.  Florida State would've lost to a Duke team with a hobbled Riley Leonard until they took him out of the game on a dirty play.  Florida State would've lost to Clemson but Clemson missed a 29 yard field goal to win it because their kicker that game wasn't even with the team until that week and was a damn financial advisor in NYC the week prior.

 

Florida State should've lost to Florida if Florida didn't have the tendency to punch themselves in the nuts every week (and that was with Florida starting a kid at QB for the first time).

 

It's pretty telling that the team Alabama just made relatively light work of is opening as a two touchdown favorite over FSU.

[MJD7]

It's never gonna happen, but college football desperately needs a drastic realignment to 4 or 8 conferences where the conference championship is quite literally the means by which every team gets a playoff spot. This subjective, "eye test," beauty pagaent stuff is complete nonsense. There should be no reason any undefeated team doesn't even get a chance to compete for the title.

[burgundy]

2 hours ago, See Red said:

... and has been wildly successful at three different schools, winning national championships at two of them.  

 

Excuse me, but he's been wildly successful at four different schools. 

 

 

[Unocal]

3 hours ago, See Red said:

 

Florida State almost lost to Boston College with their full starters.  Florida State would've lost to a Duke team with a hobbled Riley Leonard until they took him out of the game on a dirty play.  Florida State would've lost to Clemson but Clemson missed a 29 yard field goal to win it because their kicker that game wasn't even with the team until that week and was a damn financial advisor in NYC the week prior.

 

Florida State should've lost to Florida if Florida didn't have the tendency to punch themselves in the nuts every week (and that was with Florida starting a kid at QB for the first time).

 

It's pretty telling that the team Alabama just made relatively light work of is opening as a two touchdown favorite over FSU.

 

An SEC team would be a touchdown favorite over the Chiefs/Eagles. Vegas treats SEC teams like god.

 

The Smug Ego Conference basically gets so much preferential treatment it's sickening.

[Unocal]

CFB was more fun and interesting when the SEC was irrelevant.

[See Red]

1 hour ago, Unocal said:

 

An SEC team would be a touchdown favorite over the Chiefs/Eagles. Vegas treats SEC teams like god.

 

The Smug Ego Conference basically gets so much preferential treatment it's sickening.

Would’ve taken you ten seconds look it up and find out Alabama isn’t even favored over Michigan. 

[BBTV]

6 hours ago, See Red said:

Would’ve taken you ten seconds look it up and find out Alabama isn’t even favored over Michigan. 

 

[FiddySicks]

Been out of the country all week so haven’t had the ability to respond, but college football is a joke. The BCS was a bad system, but this is immeasurably worse. At least with the BCS you could blame the computers. But with this, there were actual people who sat down and made this choice. 

 

Putting a one loss Bama or Texas over FSU would be pretty bad, but to put BOTH of them in over FSU and leaving them out just feels like a shameless cash grab where they decided the TV money was better and that was more important than the actual results. That’s downright shameful. 
 

College football has a fundamental problem with how they finish their season, and it’s so bad that I can’t take any of this seriously and have basically lost interest in the sport. 
 

I know they’re expanding the playoff next season, but if they keep this round table of “experts” around to make the choices I certainly don’t have any faith in them getting that right, either. 
 

This is a very bad time for college sports for anyone who doesn’t have a financial stake in it. Which is basically all of us. 

[MJWalker45]

12 hours ago, MJD7 said:

It's never gonna happen, but college football desperately needs a drastic realignment to 4 or 8 conferences where the conference championship is quite literally the means by which every team gets a playoff spot. This subjective, "eye test," beauty pagaent stuff is complete nonsense. There should be no reason any undefeated team doesn't even get a chance to compete for the title.

The conference championships are just for seeding now, starting next year. And I still expect some shenanigans with how first round matchups get put together from next season as well. They'll want to avoid replays, which means Ohio State vs Penn State in the first round wouldn't happen. Instead if Ohio State is the number 5 team they will get the G5 champions, instead of that G5 team getting an easier matchup. They're only guaranteed a place on the field, nothing more. 

2 hours ago, FiddySicks said:

Been out of the country all week so haven’t had the ability to respond, but college football is a joke. The BCS was a bad system, but this is immeasurably worse. At least with the BCS you could blame the computers. But with this, there were actual people who sat down and made this choice. 

 

Putting a one loss Bama or Texas over FSU would be pretty bad, but to put BOTH of them in over FSU and leaving them out just feels like a shameless cash grab where they decided the TV money was better and that was more important than the actual results. That’s downright shameful. 
 

College football has a fundamental problem with how they finish their season, and it’s so bad that I can’t take any of this seriously and have basically lost interest in the sport. 
 

I know they’re expanding the playoff next season, but if they keep this round table of “experts” around to make the choices I certainly don’t have any faith in them getting that right, either. 
 

This is a very bad time for college sports for anyone who doesn’t have a financial stake in it. Which is basically all of us. 

At least computers don't worry about bias like humans do. That the FPI (ESPN's own computer) had the top three teams being from the Big Ten was amazingly insane.  People keep saying FSU would have guaranteed Michigan a national title, but wouldn't you keep them in front of Texas? Those would still be compelling games, especially when you see how tough that Seminole defense played on Saturday. 

 

[See Red]

55 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

At least computers don't worry about bias like humans do. That the FPI (ESPN's own computer) had the top three teams being from the Big Ten was amazingly insane.  People keep saying FSU would have guaranteed Michigan a national title, but wouldn't you keep them in front of Texas? Those would still be compelling games, especially when you see how tough that Seminole defense played on Saturday. 

 

FPI and SP+ are meant to be predictive, they're not resume tools.

 

Florida State has a good defense but they're not world beaters.  We literally just saw Michigan play a team with a great defense but an inept offense in the Big Ten Championship Game and it was unwatchable as you would expect it to be.  Except Florida State's defense isn't on the same planet as Iowa's and without Jordan Travis, their offense might actually be worse.  This is a Florida State team that had 224 total yards against a Florida defense that gave up 215 to Kentucky's RUNNING BACK (singular... one guy... Ray Davis) in JUST THE FIRST HALF.

 

None of you are anywhere near grateful enough that the merciful committee spared us another Georgia/TCU or, more appropriately, the last time a middling FSU team stumbled through a weak ACC into the CFP and we got this gem.

 

[MJWalker45]

3 minutes ago, See Red said:

 

FPI and SP+ are meant to be predictive, they're not resume tools.

 

Florida State has a good defense but they're not world beaters.  We literally just saw Michigan play a team with a great defense but an inept offense in the Big Ten Championship Game and it was unwatchable as you would expect it to be.  Except Florida State's defense isn't on the same planet as Iowa's and without Jordan Travis, their offense might actually be worse.  This is a Florida State team that had 224 total yards against a Florida defense that gave up 215 to Kentucky's RUNNING BACK (singular... one guy... Ray Davis) in JUST THE FIRST HALF.

 

None of you are anywhere near grateful enough that the merciful committee spared us another Georgia/TCU or, more appropriately, the last time a middling FSU team stumbled through a weak ACC into the CFP and we got this gem.

 

People seem to think that the rookie was going to be the one handling the play calling when Rodaberger would be good to go by January 1st. And even if the freshman had to start, let's see what he looks like with 15 practices as the starter instead of 3-4 practices that he got at a minute's notice. 

[See Red]

5 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

People seem to think that the rookie was going to be the one handling the play calling when Rodaberger would be good to go by January 1st. And even if the freshman had to start, let's see what he looks like with 15 practices as the starter instead of 3-4 practices that he got at a minute's notice. 

 

Again, Florida State had 224 total yards against a Florida defense that gave up 215 to Kentucky's RUNNING BACK (singular... one guy... Ray Davis) in JUST THE FIRST HALF.

 

That was with Tate Rodemaker at QB.

 

I'm starting to wonder if you people have even watched Florida State play.

[MJWalker45]

1 minute ago, See Red said:

 

Again, Florida State had 224 total yards against a Florida defense that gave up 215 to Kentucky's RUNNING BACK (singular... one guy... Ray Davis) in JUST THE FIRST HALF.

 

That was with Tate Rodemaker at QB.

It's also a rivalry game. Alabama was on the ropes against USF, and survived Auburn with a completely healthy quarterback. Punishing teams for the loss of one player is ridiculous. Texas earning a spot doesn't mean Alabama has to get in with them. 

[See Red]

4 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

It's also a rivalry game. Alabama was on the ropes against USF, and survived Auburn with a completely healthy quarterback. Punishing teams for the loss of one player is ridiculous. Texas earning a spot doesn't mean Alabama has to get in with them. 

 

Weird... that didn't stop Georgia from scoring 43.

 

Hm... maybe LSU struggled on offense in their rivalry game vs Florida...

 

Oh wait, that was the game Jayden Daniels alone had 600 yards, so that theory doesn't check out.  How else can we excuse this teams terrible play?