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JH42XCC Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Sacramento. And once again, NY/NJ -- the biggest sports market in the nation -- gets the short end of the stick in AAFL expansion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WideRight Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, JH42XCC said: Sacramento. And once again, NY/NJ -- the biggest sports market in the nation -- gets the short end of the stick in AAFL expansion. Well, to a degree that is a real issue (IRL) because of cost and media presence. As much as it would seem to make sense for NY/NJ to have a team in a new league, it can be a tough market to crack. Costs are high (worker's comp, player housing, stadium leases, etc.) and it is very hard for what is essentially "minor league" football to get any decent media coverage when the region has 2 NFL teams, 2 MLB teams, 2 NBA teams, 2 MLS teams, and 3 NHL teams. So, while on the one hand one would hope that a new league would want to be in NY/NJ, it is not unprecedented that they would find it a tough market both financially and from an exposure standpoint. That is very likely why NY/NJ was not included in the AAF, or in the 2023 version of the XFL, and now the UFL. One of the reasons the NJ Generals came back in the USFL was very likely because they would not actually be playing in NY or NJ. My suspicion is that either when the league reaches 12 or 16 teams we will see the tri-state area get its franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 And our next count update: 7 San Antonio 5 Sacramento 3 Austin 2 Birmingham & Columbus 1 San Jose Looks like it is shaping into a Texas v. California race to take on Chicago for that 10th spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kb105 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Birmingham, they have shown to show up for similar leagues (AAF's Iron had around 17,000 most home games it appears and everything before that in the 17-25k range) plus they have two of the best college football programs in the nation as well as in a football heavy state/region whose fans are known to travel for college games and might fir semi-pro if it gets up and running real well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardWitham Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 SACRAMENTO Quote The Danimal said: Texas is the state that gave us George W. Bush and Sarah Palin. 'Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NativeSonX Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 @WideRight if you had an updated league map, it may help visualize which cities slot naturally for the next choice. Without it, I think will focus on the west with the mid-major #10 candidacy for Sacramento, because it's an adequate half-way point between San Diego (504 miles) and Portland (579 miles). The West covers a lot of territory, so having a Sacramento also helps Salt Lake be less isolated (649 miles), compared to SLC-SD (753 miles) or SLC-PDX (766 miles). The big negative would be Fred Anderson Field at Hornet Stadium, it's just not ready for prime time. If the MLS had accepted Sacramento franchise bid and built a new stadium at the proposed Railyards site, you would get 21,000 all-seater instead of an antiquated venue with mostly bleacher seats at Hornet Stadium. Sacramento v. San Diego isn't San Fran (ohhh locals hate that) vs LA, but it does have the potential for a good rivalry in the making. Houston is destined to end up in the Central division when the AAFL expands to 12, so their stay in the West may end after two seasons. San Antonio only helps lessen travel for Houston and New Orleans, but would complicate who ends up as team #4 in the West when the league expands to 12. Plus Alamo Stadium is a lot worse than Hornet Stadium, remembering what I do of the USFL's Gunslingers playing there in 1984-1985. I'm sure it's better now, but this is how Alamo Stadium was remembered during in the USFL: "The team remained competitive despite Alamo Stadium's poor playing conditions. The locker rooms were cramped and had no air conditioning. The playing surface was an extremely thin AstroTurf carpet atop a concrete slab, resulting in numerous knee injuries. Many players came down with skin infections because Manges (Gunslingers owner) was unwilling to pay to keep the field clean. The field was painted with industrial-grade paint that dried hard. Combined with the thin surface, this turned rug burns usually common on artificial surfaces into severe rashes and scabs in San Antonio." On that note, Austin would have the best venue situation with Q2 stadium with access to public transit (commuter rail and bus lines available) makes it a more attractive alternative of AAFL's #2 Texas franchise. A future Western Division with San Diego, Portland, Salt Lake and Sacramento seems like a more natural divisional footprint, instead of making the hard choice of sending Houston or San Antonio, but not both and requiring splitting up of the AAFL's Texas duo, to join SD-PDX-SLC when the AAFL goes to 12 teams without Sacramento. San Antonio is further west than Houston (#7 DMA), but the west would be without a top 10 DMA. A future Western Division with SD-PDX-SLC-SA is bit weaker combine DMA coverage than what the AAF had in 2019 with AZ-SA-SD-SLC, and they learned it wasn't the right mix of big and mid-markets to keep the league alive. Then again either Sacramento (#20 DMA) or San Antonio (#31 DMA) still need to overcome Chicago's (#3 DMA) overall popularity in the next round to even make these possible Western Division alignments a reality, indicating they have a tough hill to climb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shonn71 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 I'd go Birmingham if they play their games at Rickwood.... but I don't think that's happening..... so.... Lets make the Sacramento Cows happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRight Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 We have our non-NFL city competitor. It will be Chicago vs. San Antonio for Team #10. The Alamo City garnered 13 votes to Sacramento's 7, which is more than enough to clinch the spot for them. So, you have a choice for the 10th franchise: Chicago-- The #3 MSA market in the USA, with a population of 9.27 million, where the club will play at 20,000 seat Seatgeek Stadium. San Antonio-- The 24th largest MSA in the country, with a population of 2.63 million, where the club will play at 23,000 seat Alamo Stadium. Both cities do have an option if good attendance pushes them to a bigger stadium, with Chicago potentially relocating to Northwestern's 47,000 seat Ryan Stadium or even Soldier Field, while San Antonio could move indoors to the Alamodome. Voting is just between these two cities. We will stick with the same voting rules, with the vote ending tomorrow at 5pm or if one team gains a 4 vote lead after 15 total votes or more are cast. And, just to spur on some discussion, I am going to reveal the team nicknames possible for each city: Chicago: Blues, Hogs, Sting, or Winds San Antonio: Squadron, Toros, Suns, or Copperheads Let the voting begin in our 2-team battle to be Team #10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeSonX Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 The Chicago Blues... wonder if its a different angle than just the musical connection. Windy City, Second City = 10th AAFL Franchise. Fits a geographical need and gives a big DMA to satisfy advertisers and TV executives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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