Bleujayone Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 I was just reading some of the past post about MLS teams in regards to the team names and identities having a more European angle. So I started wondering what some of the European teams might seem like if they were more like our teams.I took some of the English Premiership League teams, streamlined their team colors (since their home and away kits often look nothing alike) and dubbed them with nicknames that many of their fans called them anyway. I had to change some of the nicknames just so somebody could place a logo with the identity (more North American) and beacause a couple of their fans unofficial nicknames were rather rude. This is what I have so for, with logo concepts coming later.Manchester Red Devils (Red & Black)Arsenal Gunners (Maroon & Gold)West Ham Hammerheads (Purple & Aqua)Tottenham Spurs (Royal Blue & Vegas Gold)Blackburn Rovers (Black & Burnt Red)New Castle Magpies (Black, Teal, & Silver)Bolton Wanderers (Blue & Red)Chelsea Blues (Navy, Sky Blue & Gold)Aston Villa Villans (Cobalt & Green)Liverpool Reds (Scarlett & Sky Blue)Sunderland Panthers (Black & Red)Fulham Spitfires (Red, Green, & Black)Everton Dreadnaughts (Silver, Black, & Blue)Carlton Robins (Blood Red & Black)Birmingham Thunderbolts (Blue & Silver) We all have our little faults. Mine's in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordie_delini Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Sunderland would be the Black CatsWest Ham United is the HAMMERSYou didn't even spell CHARLTON right - and they are the AddicksFulham is the CottagersEverton is the ToffeesBirmingham will NEVER be the thunderbolts (you can't take a nickname from an XFL team for one of the oldest football clubs in the world)You missed the Latics (Wigan Athletic) and the Baggies (West Bromwich Albion), not to mention Manchester City (again, the Blues as are Chelski and Birmingham).Arsenal's colours are NOT "Maroon and Gold" Officially they are Red and White. They are wearing Maroon (actually Redcurrant) and Gold this season as a commemoration to their final season playing at the stadium at Highbury.Man United is not Red and Black, they too are Red and White. West Ham is Maroon and Sky Blue; Tottenham is White and Navy; Blackburn is Royal Blue, White and Red; Newcastle (NOT New Castle) is JUST Black and White (hence why they are even CALLED the magpies); Bolton is just navy blue and white; Chelsea is royal blue and white, the gold is for their centennary season only; Aston Villa is Red and Sky Blue; Liverpool is Red and White, mostly red; Sunderland is Red and White with Black; Fulham is traditionally Black and White; Everton is Royal Blue and White; CHARLTON is White and Red; and Birmingham is Royal Blue.Never ever ever ever ever should the FA Premiership or any other UK football club, or any European football club for that matter, have any nickname officially incorporated into the club's name or crest - you cannot, absolutely CANNOT touch the FAPL - it's been around since 1878 and hasn't changed much since - clubs from then are still around in the Premiership. Please do not try and change what has been so good for so long - that is the beauty of the FA, its tradition and heritage. MLS has only been around 10 years, the FA has been around for nearly 150 years. The FA would NEVER ever try to imitate MLS, and MLS is TRYING to look more European on purpose, to show the rest of the world that American soccer is legitimate and better competition than it was 10 years ago. If you are going to do these concepts, then please, use the ACTUAL club crests, the ACTUAL Club NAMES and OFFICIAL colours. Look them up here: www.premierleague.comAs for the MLS European concepts, I was the one who did them because I appreciate the heritage and tradition of European football so much more than the US game. English soccer is above and beyond superior in play and style to American soccer - anyone who knows anything about the game will understand that. I apologize for the harshness of this post, but I do feel strongly about this, and I am very passionate about the sport of soccer and English club football in particular. Anyway, please keep all I have said in mind if you should continue to make these concepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB61 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Right on, Gordo.As clever as the idea is, it's absolute rubbish. People need to stop Americanizing a sport that just isn't ours. The American sporting society (of which I, of no choice of my own, am regrettably a part of), needs to take their heads out of their asses and understand that some things are best left as they are, that TV and League execs need to back off of sports and stop trying to custom fit the sport in order to get ratings.This goes along with the "FC" post that someone made, that MLS teams shouldn't use the term "Football" because it's a European term and "this is America". That's why the popularity of soccer and hockey will always be stifled here -- neither sport is American, so why should we care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadesofblack Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 i agree fullheartedly with gordie.....dont mess with the FA Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZzyzx41 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I'm going to add my voice to Gordie's and agree completely. Not much I can add there that hasn't been said already. -DanielCheck Out My Podcast! Latest Episode 273: The Color BlinkyLatest Photo Upload: January 7, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HatCityEnforcer Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Add my voice to that of Gordie, BB, shades, and CZ....Tweaking the EPL and making it more "American" would be a mistake...'Tis fine the way the Brits made it, IMO. FANTASY TEAMSHousatonic U. Dragons (NCFA Basketball): 16-6 (8-4 Conf.)--National Runner-UpJersey State U. (NCFA Football): Inaugural Year - 2006Motor City Silverhawks (WArFL): 9-4 (3rd--National Conf.)Lehigh Valley Ironmen (WAmFL): Inaugural Season--2006New England Marauders RFC (RLI): 6-0-7 (6th place)Detroit Spirit (AA): 3-6 (T-4th--Patriot League)Brooklyn Atlantics (IBF): 10-5 (1st--Appalachian Conf.)Boston Mariners RFU (WRU): Coming Soon!New York Americans (SHL): Inaugural Season - 2006-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampman Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 West Ham United is the HAMMERS And any self respecting Monty Python fan (is that an oxymoron?) knows that-The Hammers, the Hammers is the nickname of which English football team? Comic Sans walks into a bar, and the bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve your type here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr79 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Liverpool is Red and White, mostly red; It'd be all red if most of us got our way. The white numbers and sponsor are merely for TV viewers West Ham are also called The Irons which would make a better nickname if you had to give them one. Villa are claret and blue as well though I think Gordie. Its a darker shade than just "red".He missed Portsmouth but no-one can figure out what their colours are.... Royal Blue, White, Red, Yellow.... Their current kit is a mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordie_delini Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 oh poor Pompey - I can't believe I forgot them. i believe their true colours are blue and white with gold accentsmy point remains the same though, the FAPL cannot be touched - it's just a sacrilege to do so.Good point about the Irons, and about Villa - i couldn't think of the actual name of the colour when i wrote the post, but i know it's darker than red but not maroon, so thanks Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgd Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Never ever ever ever ever should the FA Premiership or any other UK football club, or any European football club for that matter, have any nickname officially incorporated into the club's name or crest - i'm assumign you mean an actual text nickname, because so many have graphic icons of their nicknames in their crest.I would chill. He wasn't saying "It should be like this..." just that "I was wondering what it'd be like if..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosioux76 Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 There are some Budweiser ads in the last few months issues of FourFourTwo magazine that make jokes about Americanizing EPL teams. They make up American-style logos and names for some teams, like the Wigan A's for Wigan Athletic. It was pretty creative. Wish I still had the ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gueman Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 I think you should. If the others don't want to see don't click on the thread. In all the posts about the FA Premiership and its tradition well we on this side of the pond don't have jerseys with corparate logos bigger that the team logo. Were is the outrage in that. This is a fun site so get off the high horse and let people have fun. Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. P. J. O'Rourke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murtaugh Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 I think it'd be interesting as a 'what if' hypothetical proposition.It's actually the subject of a Budweiser campaign in England right now. Funny ads. NO GRAND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerws Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Good job BlueJayOne. I cannot wait to see the concepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herk Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 If you go to budweisers UK site you can see a few of the logos. I personally like the Middlesboro Red and White Sox logo, along with the team name West HammerTime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampman Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Hmmm, maybe I shouldn't post my Premier League Madden concepts! (Sort of kidding, I haven't done them, but I did do some helmets based on their logos) Comic Sans walks into a bar, and the bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve your type here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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