gashouser27 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I wasn't glad the Colts lost until after the gameI watched four quarters of Manning running around and the Colts offense looking confused..He ran a two minute drill that looked like a flag football game and was far from Montana or Elway-likeHe kept winging the ball instead of trying to get his kicker a decent spot for a FG (a 46 yard FG to tie puts a lot of pressure on the kicker)And then he says after the game "i want to be a good team mate. but..."and throws his offense line under the busNice leadership..I have to say Brady showed a lot more class after he lost..The Mannings have big egos but still have a long way to go to be considered great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhambruiser Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 that comment was obviously said out of frustration.does that excuse him? no. he shouldn't have said itit was very uncharacteristic of him to say that so i was surprised Millican StudiosMillican Studios Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 It was pathetic it showed he does not have any guts and does not have what it takes to win.He now has a black mark on his career it will not come off until he wins a Super Bowl, although now I dont think he ever will win a Super Bowl. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclopsis Joe Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Anytime you say something like, "I'm a team player, but..." or "I'm not racist, but.." or "CC97 advised me about calling you a social outcast again, but..." It usually means that the next sentence is going to be stupid. I don't speak for democrats, democrats don't speak for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 WelL Peyton is a horrible team player you win as a team you lose a team now I will say Tarrick Glenn was horrible a couple of flase starts but be a team player Peyton dont single out you line take the hit show come class. If you want the credit you need to take the blame and Peyton Manning passing the buck there showed me he does not have it hes a gutless choker.I lost so much respect for him not by the loss but his comments after the game. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 He?s no worse than Brady or Leinhart for their own foot-in-mouth comments.Its all part of the after-game, mic-in-the-face press hounding. A guy who just took the best team into the playoffs, and is coming away with a loss should be able to have some time to decompress, scream, yell, act like a fool before he needs to have his words broadcast around the world, to have his reputation torn asunder.I don't hate on this guy like some of you do. I guess you must not like his Tennessee days or something. This is, as far as I can tell, the only thing he's said negative. I mean... does one truth said in desperation doom you to being "a gutless choker?"I don?t think so. His line did suck. Should he have shut the hell up, and taken it like a team man? Sure. But because he didn't, he?s a loser, a choker, a wimp, a jerk, and a moron? No, that?s just silly.Running and jumping with all your might to a conclusion is just republican.. I mean, stupid.Same thing. NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi  ΓΔΒ!  Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Im not the only one saying this.Manning has been attacked in similar ways, by Terry Bradshaw and Ron Jaworski who know more about football then me or you.Manning threw his line under the bus and that will win him no friends in the NFL and will win him no credibillity, and I bet a whole lot more people in and out of footbal feel the same way.Manning could not beat Florida in College, and now cant win a playoff game. He is a choker, until he wins the Super Bowl that lable is right on his forehead. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Running and jumping with all your might to a conclusion is just republican.. I mean, stupid.Same thing. Nice job bringing political biases into this thread when there is absolutely no need for it. Now it's you that looks stupid. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brinkeguthrie Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Im not the only one saying this.Manning has been attacked in similar ways, by Terry Bradshaw and Ron Jaworski who know more about football then me or you.Manning threw his line under the bus and that will win him no friends in the NFL and will win him no credibillity, and I bet a whole lot more people in and out of footbal feel the same way.Manning could not beat Florida in College, and now cant win a playoff game. He is a choker, until he wins the Super Bowl that lable is right on his forehead. well, i'd take him out here in SF, if he's that bad.... PS---I have searched everywhere- where's the complete Peyton quote where he whacks the O Line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 The quote was basically he had protection problems its been played all over ESPN, usually with Manning getting hammered as he deserved.Im not saying that the line played good they were horrible, but its not a place for a player to say it to the press, even if it is the star player, win as a team lose as a team and what Manning did in calling them out was weak. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OB33 Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I think we all need to keep these comments in perspective, at least he didn't say that the offensive line was the "one that got tired at the end of the [game]". He also didn't say the Steelers were "ripe for the picking" or that "the whole world loves [Joey Porter]."So what point am I trying to make through all this? The Colts O-line was bad yesterday. Manning shouldn't have called them out, but their inability to stop the blitz was the key in yesterday's loss. And if Favre said it, we'd probably call him courageous for having the boldness to call out his team. But I digress... #CHOMPCHOMPCHOMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 No Favre would have not done that and that is my point. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleujayone Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 (to the tune of "Meet the Flintstones")Manning Peyton ManningBiggest choker in Colts historyIn the second quarterhe'll get lit up like a Christmas treeHe'll cryEverytime that he gets beatWe'll laughWhile we're chanting "Cut That Meat!" When you play with ManningLose the playoffs for the 6th time Just like his O-LineHe'll watch the Game from home We all have our little faults. Mine's in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I see the point of he should have known better than to say it. We all make that sort of mistake on occation. For instance, me with the republican barb. Trying to be funny, but came out like a stab in the abdomen. Shouldnt have said it. But I can't unsay it.I think that calling Manning "a gutless choker" is overstating it in a similar way. Manning didnt say his line lost the game. He didnt say the Pittsburgh defense made the line look like little punk bitches. He actually said, "we had some protection problems tonight."1. THEY DID. They allowed more sacks than they did all year.2. He said "we" and I think he meant we. He calls protections at the line, so he is partially responsible. The Joey Porter sack, he lined up outside the tight end, and came directly at Manning, unabaited. Thats not the line's fault,t hats Mannings for not seeing that and calling over an extra bloacker. And I think he'd tell you the same thing.3. He never mentioned the line. He was talking about the TEs, the RBs, the line, himself. The Colts team had protection problems. When I watched ESPN tongiht, Michael Irving, Dan Patrick, and Mike Ditka all weighed in and said he most certainly did NOT throw his line under the bus.Sure, some questionable charachters there, but nonetheless, guys who know something about football. So its not 'everyone' who thinks what he said was reprehensible.All in all, I believe it is just as bad or worse to call a guy "a gutless choker" as it was to say "we had some protection problems."Maybe thats just me. NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi  ΓΔΒ!  Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 People have the right to their opinions and my opinon is Peyton Manning is a gutless choker, who needs to win a Super Bowl to redeem his career.If you dont feel that way fine, thats how I feel. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashouser27 Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 I am no Republican and i didn't call him a gutless choker..I think the Colts have a chance to still be a great team and i agree that none of us know what it is like to have microphone stuck in your face when something real bad happens to you..Having said that, I don't think Manning is "great" QB or leader yet..That loss could be demoralizing to that team and he should be a leader and not a "divider"The line might have been not picking up the blitz, and Peyton did have some clutch plays but with the game on the line he was bad..on a big stage..He got sacked..he didn't pick up secondary receivers..he didn't direct a decent drive..he had two minutes to get his team down the field and try to get field position and he threw a wild pass into the end zone hoping for pass interference and a pass that was to no one and should have been intercepted..He had people open on short routes..He left his kicker with a 46 yard field goal to tie the game..He didn't rise to the occasion in the big game (again)..and then he pointed at the blockingMaybe next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I don't hate on this guy like some of you do. I guess you must not like his Tennessee days or something. This is, as far as I can tell, the only thing he's said negative. I mean... does one truth said in desperation doom you to being "a gutless choker?" Name one big game Peyton has won in college or the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HatCityEnforcer Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 My take on Peyton Manning...He's a darn good QB and is racking up some impressive numbers in the REGULAR SEASON. He's pretty much becoming the 2000s answer to Dan Marino. FANTASY TEAMSHousatonic U. Dragons (NCFA Basketball): 16-6 (8-4 Conf.)--National Runner-UpJersey State U. (NCFA Football): Inaugural Year - 2006Motor City Silverhawks (WArFL): 9-4 (3rd--National Conf.)Lehigh Valley Ironmen (WAmFL): Inaugural Season--2006New England Marauders RFC (RLI): 6-0-7 (6th place)Detroit Spirit (AA): 3-6 (T-4th--Patriot League)Brooklyn Atlantics (IBF): 10-5 (1st--Appalachian Conf.)Boston Mariners RFU (WRU): Coming Soon!New York Americans (SHL): Inaugural Season - 2006-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyboy1 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 It was pathetic it showed he does not have any guts and does not have what it takes to win. He gets it from his father, the biggest loser in the history of pro football.The poor guy, it's just in his genes and there's nothing he can do to eradicate the lineage that he was born into. Click here to read Third String Goalie - The Hockey Jersey of the Day Blog Click here to see my hockey and baseball jersey collection online ?You don?t like to see 20 kids punching 20 other kids. But it?s not a disgrace, It?s hockey.? - Michael Farber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGivens87 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Name one big game Peyton has won in college or the NFL. ...... A large cheese pizza, just for me.New England's source for soccer newsAnd hey, I made it to ESPN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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