Stampman Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 how bout we wait til all the southern teams fold, and then go to the 4 division format.Not even gonna dignify that with an answer... Wait...CRAP I DID!!Anyway, my way to improve the NHL: Goalies in Shoot-outs! (BTW, in this discussion, I am predneck731.) My idea to improve the NHL--scrap shootouts... Why get rid of shootout? It's better than having a worhtless tie at the end of the game. It's so stupid. You sit there all night watching a game, especially if it's an exciting one and it ends in a tie!? Keep the shootout, the NHL is fine. I just think the divisions need to be realigned and they need to put themselves out more as far as advertising. They've done a good job so far I give them that. But, more can be done. Scrap the shotout becuase it's a lousy way to decide a game.Hockey is a team sport--yes there are times when there is individual effort that results in a great play--but it still grew out of the natural play of the game.A breakway or penalty shot comes out of the natural play of the game--and that's what makes them exciting.Shootouts are just lineups and individual effort to decide a team game.And what's wrong with a tie?I have no problem with them in regular season.Sometimes that's the best result--both teams battled fiercely--toe to toe--and they came out of it with something. $20 says you're sitting on the edge of your chair or on your feet when your team is involved in a shootout.... Even if I were does that mean I'm entertained?No it means I'm annoyed a team game is being settled on individual effort.Where's my $20?As jkr devil includes in his post-it's a "Cheap win"If they ever used it for the playoffs, I may stop watching.Seriously.I've never liked shootouts, and this goes back to before some of you were born.It's a cheap way to end a game. Comic Sans walks into a bar, and the bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve your type here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 $20 says you're sitting on the edge of your chair or on your feet when your team is involved in a shootout.... Even if I were does that mean I'm entertained? I'm not asking you if you're entertained or not.Pay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred T. Jane Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 I'm not asking you if you're entertained or not.Pay up. Yeah, let's not kid ourselves. It isn't like they're playing in front of thousands of people who pay money to be entertained or anything... [Croatia National Team Manager Slavan] Bilic then went on to explain how Croatia's success can partially be put down to his progressive man-management techniques. "Sometimes I lie in the bed with my players. I go to the room of Vedran Corluka and Luka Modric when I see they have a problem and I lie in bed with them and we talk for 10 minutes." Maybe Capello could try getting through to his players this way too? Although how far he'd get with Joe Cole jumping up and down on the mattress and Rooney demanding to be read his favourite page from The Very Hungry Caterpillar is open to question. --The Guardian's Fiver, 08 September 2008 Attention: In order to obtain maximum enjoyment from your stay at the CCSLC, the reader is advised that the above post may contain large amounts of sarcasm, dry humour, or statements which should not be taken in any true sort of seriousness. As a result, the above poster absolves himself of any and all blame in the event that a forum user responds to the aforementioned post without taking the previous notice into account. Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay at the CCSLC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 I'm not asking you if you're entertained or not.Pay up. Yeah, let's not kid ourselves. It isn't like they're playing in front of thousands of people who pay money to be entertained or anything... Seriously, how many fans go to a game saying "Man, I really hope we tie the Senators tonight!"?Whether you like the shootout concept or not, you're lying if you say that your adrenaline isn't flowing full-speed when your team is involved in a shootout.From what I could tell going to games and watching the Center Ice package, there were a whole lot of people standing during these shootouts. Apparently shootouts are get-out-of-your-seat entertaining for the fans going to the games.And you get a winner out of the deal. A win in the shootout counts just as much as a win in regulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampman Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 I'm not asking you if you're entertained or not.Pay up. Yeah, let's not kid ourselves. It isn't like they're playing in front of thousands of people who pay money to be entertained or anything... Seriously, how many fans go to a game saying "Man, I really hope we tie the Senators tonight!"?Whether you like the shootout concept or not, you're lying if you say that your adrenaline isn't flowing full-speed when your team is involved in a shootout.From what I could tell going to games and watching the Center Ice package, there were a whole lot of people standing during these shootouts. Apparently shootouts are get-out-of-your-seat entertaining for the fans going to the games.And you get a winner out of the deal. A win in the shootout counts just as much as a win in regulation. [sarcasm]Whoopie...[/sarcasm]As I said I'm more annoyed than entertained--and that means I'm not on the edge of my seat. Comic Sans walks into a bar, and the bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve your type here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Clemente Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I came up with a strange idea for an NHL format today. It does already require what was established as divisions up to now to piggyback off it. Here it is:There are still two conferences, the same teams from each conference now will continue to be under the same conference. However one team from each division will be put into a new division.Here is an example alignment I came up with just now:NORRIS DIVISION:Anaheim DucksCarolina HurricanesColumbus Blue JacketsMontreal CanadiensPhiladelphia FlyersVancouer CanucksSMYTHE DIVISION:Boston BruinsCalgary FlamesDallas StarsNew York IslandersSt. Louis BluesWashington CapitalsADAMS DIVISION:Buffalo SabresChicago BlackhawksEdmonton OilersLos Angeles KingsPittsburgh PenguinsTampa Bay LightningPATRICK DIVISION:Atlanta ThrashersColorado AvalancheNashville PredatorsNew Jersey DevilsPhoenix CoyotesToronto Maple LeafsMASTERSON DIVISION:Detroit Red WingsFlorida PanthersMinnesota WildNew York RangersOttawa SenatorsSan Jose SharksSchedule works like this:6 games against your own new division opponents (3 home, 3 road) = 30 games2 games against the other 24 teams (1 home, 1 road) = 48 games4 more games against your old divisional opponents (2 home, 2 road - alternating who gets the extra home game each year.)Sure, this will more than likely weaken all current rivalries. And, if it goes as I would have it, this system will change in a lottery each year. But it will create new rivalries each year. All the Western Conference teams who thought the travelling was unfair towards them....well, it's not exactly easier, but it's now more balanced for everyone. But with the right scheduling, all previous rivalries can be hyped up to maximum potential.Playoffs will use the Top 16 teams. However, those 16 teams will be split up into two conference seeds and will rank the same as before ranked 1-8 by conference. Any division winners will occupy the top seeds in the conference. If say only one Western Conference team wins their division but has a lower point total than another Western Conference team in another division, the division winner gets #1 no matter what their point ranking is. However, if a team from another division who is from the other conference is has more points, they will be placed in the other conference's playoff tree in the applicable rank (similar to the CFL's and QMJHL's crossover playoff system) If no Western Conference team wins their division, then the lowest ranked of the five division winners from the Eastern Conference gets the applicable seed 1-4 based on the point total against the other conference (but is ranked no lower than 4) in the West. If, say, a 9th and 10th team from the East has more points than the 7th or 8th team from the West, the East teams get #8 and #9 in the West. It is very much possible that only one single team from a conference could make the playoffs. It is also possible that two current or new division rivals could square off for the Stanley Cup.--Roger "Time?" Clemente. Follow me on Twitter if you care: @Animal_Clans.My opinion may or may not be the same as yours. The choice is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMcD Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I came up with a strange idea for an NHL format today. It does already require what was established as divisions up to now to piggyback off it. Here it is:There are still two conferences, the same teams from each conference now will continue to be under the same conference. However one team from each division will be put into a new division.Here is an example alignment I came up with just now:NORRIS DIVISION:Anaheim DucksCarolina HurricanesColumbus Blue JacketsMontreal CanadiensPhiladelphia FlyersVancouer CanucksSMYTHE DIVISION:Boston BruinsCalgary FlamesDallas StarsNew York IslandersSt. Louis BluesWashington CapitalsADAMS DIVISION:Buffalo SabresChicago BlackhawksEdmonton OilersLos Angeles KingsPittsburgh PenguinsTampa Bay LightningPATRICK DIVISION:Atlanta ThrashersColorado AvalancheNashville PredatorsNew Jersey DevilsPhoenix CoyotesToronto Maple LeafsMASTERSON DIVISION:Detroit Red WingsFlorida PanthersMinnesota WildNew York RangersOttawa SenatorsSan Jose SharksSchedule works like this:6 games against your own new division opponents (3 home, 3 road) = 30 games2 games against the other 24 teams (1 home, 1 road) = 48 games4 more games against your old divisional opponents (2 home, 2 road - alternating who gets the extra home game each year.)Sure, this will more than likely weaken all current rivalries. And, if it goes as I would have it, this system will change in a lottery each year. But it will create new rivalries each year. All the Western Conference teams who thought the travelling was unfair towards them....well, it's not exactly easier, but it's now more balanced for everyone. But with the right scheduling, all previous rivalries can be hyped up to maximum potential.Playoffs will use the Top 16 teams. However, those 16 teams will be split up into two conference seeds and will rank the same as before ranked 1-8 by conference. Any division winners will occupy the top seeds in the conference. If say only one Western Conference team wins their division but has a lower point total than another Western Conference team in another division, the division winner gets #1 no matter what their point ranking is. However, if a team from another division who is from the other conference is has more points, they will be placed in the other conference's playoff tree in the applicable rank (similar to the CFL's and QMJHL's crossover playoff system) If no Western Conference team wins their division, then the lowest ranked of the five division winners from the Eastern Conference gets the applicable seed 1-4 based on the point total against the other conference (but is ranked no lower than 4) in the West. If, say, a 9th and 10th team from the East has more points than the 7th or 8th team from the West, the East teams get #8 and #9 in the West. It is very much possible that only one single team from a conference could make the playoffs. It is also possible that two current or new division rivals could square off for the Stanley Cup.--Roger "Time?" Clemente.The problem with that is the amount of travel, having Vancouver in the same division as Montreal and Carolina in the same division. Yikes. Buffalo in the same division as LA. There would be like 10 games that start at 10 pm EST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Clemente Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 The problem with that is the amount of travel, having Vancouver in the same division as Montreal and Carolina in the same division. Yikes. Buffalo in the same division as LA. There would be like 10 games that start at 10 pm EST.See? It's not unfair to anybody! That's why it could work. It's one team from each geographic region in each division.--Roger "Time?" Clemente. Follow me on Twitter if you care: @Animal_Clans.My opinion may or may not be the same as yours. The choice is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMcD Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 The problem with that is the amount of travel, having Vancouver in the same division as Montreal and Carolina in the same division. Yikes. Buffalo in the same division as LA. There would be like 10 games that start at 10 pm EST.See? It's not unfair to anybody! That's why it could work. It's one team from each geographic region in each division.--Roger "Time?" Clemente.O.K., but the costs would add up, the NFL may be able to afford it but a post lockout NHL can't afford 10 west coast road trips a year. And it wouldn't help TV revenue, advertisers would not want to pay as much for a game starting at ten rather than 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Clemente Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 O.K., but the costs would add up, the NFL may be able to afford it but a post lockout NHL can't afford 10 west coast road trips a year. And it wouldn't help TV revenue, advertisers would not want to pay as much for a game starting at ten rather than 7.That's why God invented the greyhound bus. --Roger "Time?" Clemente. Follow me on Twitter if you care: @Animal_Clans.My opinion may or may not be the same as yours. The choice is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperAirplane31 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Contract teams down to 22, 11 per conference, 5-6 per division. Get rid of the Southeast division, get rid of the four newest expantion teams, minus Minnesota. Also get rid of the Pacific division, minus LA and Dallas. Then add Winnipeg and Hartford to the mix. The NHL goes back to the days where more people watched it than the NBA and everyone is happy.BostonBuffalo CalgaryChicagoColoradoDallas DetroitEdmontonHartfordLAMinnesotaMontrealNJNYINYROttawaPhiladelphiaPittsburghSt. LouisTorontoVancouverWinnipegI would make it 24, 12 per conference, 6 per division.As such...BostonBuffaloCalgaryChicagoColoradoDallas DetroitEdmontonHamiltonHartfordKansas CityLAMinnesotaMontrealNJNYINYROttawaPhiladelphiaPittsburghSt. LouisTorontoVancouverWinnipeg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappital92 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Contract teams down to 22, 11 per conference, 5-6 per division. Get rid of the Southeast division, get rid of the four newest expantion teams, minus Minnesota. Also get rid of the Pacific division, minus LA and Dallas. Then add Winnipeg and Hartford to the mix. The NHL goes back to the days where more people watched it than the NBA and everyone is happy.BostonBuffalo CalgaryChicagoColoradoDallas DetroitEdmontonHartfordLAMinnesotaMontrealNJNYINYROttawaPhiladelphiaPittsburghSt. LouisTorontoVancouverWinnipegI would make it 24, 12 per conference, 6 per division.As such...BostonBuffaloCalgaryChicagoColoradoDallas DetroitEdmontonHamiltonHartfordKansas CityLAMinnesotaMontrealNJNYINYROttawaPhiladelphiaPittsburghSt. LouisTorontoVancouverWinnipegWashington's no Toronto,but we support our team.Now the other four....... http://www.wizardsxtra.com Is it the shoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_cat_eyes Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Here is my idea!!CAMPBELL CONFRENCE:NORRIS DIVISION:Anaheim DucksLos Angeles KingsDallas StarsColorado AvalancheCalifornia Sharks (San Jose rename)Phoenix CoyotesADAMS DIVISION:Calgary FlamesVancouer CanucksEdmonton OilersRegina Bandits (expansion team)Winnipeg Blizzard (expansion team)Seatle Huskies (expansion team)HOWE DIVISION:Chicago BlackhawksSt. Louis BluesMinnesota WildKansas City Twisters (expansion team)Detroit Red WingsColumbus Blue JacketsWALES CONFRENCE:SMYTHE DIVISION:Toronto Maple LeafsOttawa SenatorsMontreal CanadiensBuffalo SabresHamilton Bulldogs (expansion team)Quebec Voyagers (expansion team)GRETZKEY DIVISION:Boston BruinsNew Jersey DevilsNew York IslandersNew York RangersPhiladelphia FlyersPittsburgh PenguinsPATRICK DIVISION:Atlanta ThrashersTampa Bay LightningCarolina HurricanesFlorida PanthersNashville PredatorsWashington CapitalsIt would be played on an 82 game scheduleEach team would play:3 home games and 3 away games against every team in their division: 48 games1 home games and 1 away games against every team in the other divisions in their conference: 24 games10 random games against teams in the other conference (5 before and five after the all-star break)Cat Eyes - Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperAirplane31 Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 GRETZKEY DIVISION:Boston BruinsNew Jersey DevilsNew York IslandersNew York RangersPhiladelphia FlyersPittsburgh PenguinsYou spelled "Gretzky" wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_cat_eyes Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 GRETZKEY DIVISION:Boston BruinsNew Jersey DevilsNew York IslandersNew York RangersPhiladelphia FlyersPittsburgh PenguinsYou spelled "Gretzky" wrong.Opps, sorry my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Clemente Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Why does every idea involve relocation or expansion?That said, I only have one idea for a new team...New Orleans Sudiques--Roger "Time?" Clemente. Follow me on Twitter if you care: @Animal_Clans.My opinion may or may not be the same as yours. The choice is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColeJ Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 GRETZKEY DIVISION:Boston BruinsNew Jersey DevilsNew York IslandersNew York RangersPhiladelphia FlyersPittsburgh PenguinsYou spelled "Gretzky" wrong.nobody noticed "masterson" instead of "masterton" though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_prankster Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Contract teams down to 22, 11 per conference, 5-6 per division. Get rid of the Southeast division, get rid of the four newest expantion teams, minus Minnesota. Also get rid of the Pacific division, minus LA and Dallas. Then add Winnipeg and Hartford to the mix. The NHL goes back to the days where more people watched it than the NBA and everyone is happy.BostonBuffalo CalgaryChicagoColoradoDallas DetroitEdmontonHartfordLAMinnesotaMontrealNJNYINYROttawaPhiladelphiaPittsburghSt. LouisTorontoVancouverWinnipegNo Sharks? This idea sucks. The Fictional Story of Austus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SG30 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 my idea:keep the conferences the same and divisons and everything but make it an 83 game season.-play your division teams 7 times. treat it like a series. if you win the series, you get home ice advantage next season.-play your conference 4 times. 2 and 2 for home ice.-play the west 1 time each. that way an "oh no, anaheim will never see buffalo and vice versa" won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperAirplane31 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 My five division format:Canadian Division:-Montreal Canadiens-Toronto Maple Leafs-Edmonton Oilers-Vancouver Canucks-Calgary Flames-Ottawa SenatorsAtlantic Division:-Boston Bruins -New York Rangers-New Jersey Devils-New York Islanders-Philadelphia Flyers-Pittsburgh PenguinsCentral Division:-Detroit Red Wings-Minnesota Wild-Buffalo Sabres-St. Louis Blues-Chicago Blackhawks-Dallas StarsPacific Division:-San Jose Sharks-Los Angeles Kings-Anaheim Ducks-Phoenix Coyotes-Colorado Avalanche-Las Vegas AcesSouthern Division:-Florida Panthers-Tampa Bay Lightning-Carolina Hurricanes-Atlanta Thrashers-Washington Capitals-Louisiana Jazz(This is just a rough draft, let me know if I forgot something or if I should add something.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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