Rambulance Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Is there a written rule that NFL teams cannot be singularly named? Like Extreme or Legion or Fire?And if there is, where would I find that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 No written rule, but (I believe) an unwritten one. Those names still have the ring of the minor league, and any sport so obsessed with its image wants to protect that image.I know that there is such an unwritten rule in baseball - it came up when a group in the DC area wanted to make a play for an expansion franchise they would call the Virginia Fury. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseballking99 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I've always thought all good names have an "s" at the end. There are a few exceptions like the heat but I think overall it holds true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfiji Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Yet NFL Europe has teams likeBerlin ThunderFrankfurt FireRhein Galaxyand in the past (WLAF):Ohio GloryOrlando ThunderSacramento SurgeMontreal MachineBirmingham Fire Plainsman Parking Lot. Auburn Baseball Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Yet NFL Europe has teams likeBerlin ThunderFrankfurt FireRhein Galaxyand in the past (WLAF):Ohio GloryOrlando ThunderSacramento SurgeMontreal MachineBirmingham FireSo you're validating baseballking99's point? It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitaminD Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I know that there is such an unwritten rule in baseball - it came up when a group in the DC area wanted to make a play for an expansion franchise they would call the Virginia Fury.I cannot verify this, but I have actually heard that there is a rule in MLB which explicitly prohibits team names (save the Red & White Sox) from ending in anything but "s" to avoid the "collective noun" phenomena that plagues so many leagues. "Start spreading the news... They're leavin' today... Won't get to be a part of it... In old New York..."In order for the Mets' run of 12 losses in 17 games to mean something, the Phillies still had to win 13 of 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseballking99 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Yet NFL Europe has teams likeBerlin ThunderFrankfurt FireRhein Galaxyand in the past (WLAF):Ohio GloryOrlando ThunderSacramento SurgeMontreal MachineBirmingham FireI know leagues have names like this but do you actually like them? The only one I like is Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 A little off-topic, but as far as the NHL and NBA go, singular names are pretty solid. Colorado AvalancheMinnesota WildTampa Bay LightningMiami HeatOrlando MagicUtah JazzThe only bad one in either of those leagues is "Magic." As it stands now, IMO, tacky singular names are still pretty much a minor league monopoly. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 A little off-topic, but as far as the NHL and NBA go, singular names are pretty solid. Colorado AvalancheMinnesota WildTampa Bay LightningMiami HeatOrlando MagicUtah JazzThe only bad one in either of those leagues is "Magic." As it stands now, IMO, tacky singular names are still pretty much a minor league monopoly.I can't disagree with you more. IMO Wild, Heat, Jazz, and Magic are terrible names (with Wild being the absolute worst.) Wild is either an adjective, or a location (out in the wild.) Either way for a player to say "I'm proud to be a Wild" just sounds ridiculous. I really think that Heat and Magic get accepted only because people are used to them, and (at least in the Heat's case) they have dope logos / uni's.For some reason I'm OK with Avalanche, and to a lesser extent Lightning. Maybe because even though they don't end in s, they still represent multiple things? I'm hungover and my head hurts. Good day to you. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitaminD Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 A little off-topic, but as far as the NHL and NBA go, singular names are pretty solid. Colorado AvalancheMinnesota WildTampa Bay LightningMiami HeatOrlando MagicUtah JazzThe only bad one in either of those leagues is "Magic." As it stands now, IMO, tacky singular names are still pretty much a minor league monopoly.I can't disagree with you more. IMO Wild, Heat, Jazz, and Magic are terrible names (with Wild being the absolute worst.) Wild is either an adjective, or a location (out in the wild.) Either way for a player to say "I'm proud to be a Wild" just sounds ridiculous. I really think that Heat and Magic get accepted only because people are used to them, and (at least in the Heat's case) they have dope logos / uni's.Hear, hear, Andy. Collective nouns make terrible nicknames with very few exceptions (Green Wave, Fighting Irish). And those few exceptions are usually something tangible - either a race of people, or a physical/meteorological phenomenon (Avalanche, Lightning). And OMG, "Wild" is the worst. Do they mean to use it in the adjectival sense? Usually, when "wild" is used as a noun, it takes the definite article - but the only thing that sounds worse than "Minnesota Wild" would be "Minnesota THE Wild". This is what stems from people using XXXX-TREME!!!11!1!!one! as a noun in a similar fashion (when it ought not be used as such).Just brutal. If a member of the Bobcats is a Bobcat, and a member of the Orioles is an Oriole, pray tell what is a single member of the Heat, Jazz or Magic? A Calorie? A Note? A Trick? These are the closest single unit names to symbolize a part of a larger whole, and they sound just asinine. "Start spreading the news... They're leavin' today... Won't get to be a part of it... In old New York..."In order for the Mets' run of 12 losses in 17 games to mean something, the Phillies still had to win 13 of 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseballking99 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 A little off-topic, but as far as the NHL and NBA go, singular names are pretty solid. Colorado AvalancheMinnesota WildTampa Bay LightningMiami HeatOrlando MagicUtah JazzThe only bad one in either of those leagues is "Magic." As it stands now, IMO, tacky singular names are still pretty much a minor league monopoly.I can't disagree with you more. IMO Wild, Heat, Jazz, and Magic are terrible names (with Wild being the absolute worst.) Wild is either an adjective, or a location (out in the wild.) Either way for a player to say "I'm proud to be a Wild" just sounds ridiculous. I really think that Heat and Magic get accepted only because people are used to them, and (at least in the Heat's case) they have dope logos / uni's.For some reason I'm OK with Avalanche, and to a lesser extent Lightning. Maybe because even though they don't end in s, they still represent multiple things? I'm hungover and my head hurts. Good day to you.I think that's true. If a name doesn't end in a s but still represents multiple things its ok but if the name represents a singular object or a verb(wild) then its not ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I guess that's as good a rule of thumb as we'll see.Makes the Racine Legion acceptible. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discrim Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Berlin ThunderFrankfurt Galaxy Rhein FireFIXED. get it right next time A strong mind gets high off success, a weak mind gets high off bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 A little off-topic, but as far as the NHL and NBA go, singular names are pretty solid. Colorado AvalancheMinnesota WildTampa Bay LightningMiami HeatOrlando MagicUtah JazzThe only bad one in either of those leagues is "Magic." As it stands now, IMO, tacky singular names are still pretty much a minor league monopoly.I can't disagree with you more. IMO Wild, Heat, Jazz, and Magic are terrible names (with Wild being the absolute worst.) Wild is either an adjective, or a location (out in the wild.) Either way for a player to say "I'm proud to be a Wild" just sounds ridiculous. I really think that Heat and Magic get accepted only because people are used to them, and (at least in the Heat's case) they have dope logos / uni's.For some reason I'm OK with Avalanche, and to a lesser extent Lightning. Maybe because even though they don't end in s, they still represent multiple things? I'm hungover and my head hurts. Good day to you.I'll vouch for the Lightning, when we refer to an individually player on our team, we refer to them as a Bolt, it's kind of the unofficial nickname of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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