speedy Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Anybody catch this game? Baltimore pitcher Jeremy Guthrie shut down the Sox for 8 1/3 innings, allowing 3 hits. Perlozzo pulled Guthrie after an error by Ramon Hernandez, and the bullpen imploaded. Was this one of the dumbest moves in recent memory? Here you have a pitcher shutting down a potent offense, and you pull him because of an error he had no control of. Oh yeah, and his pitch count was only 90. Thanks to you Sam Perlozzo for the victory.http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=270513102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Guthrie was dealing! The Red Sox really took advantage of the bullpen today. Great game, and yet another to show on "Walk-Off Sox". Sundays. At 8. On NESN. On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Wow, whatta game the Red Sox had won. It's great to be young and a Giant! - Larry Doyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly97flyer Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 And knowing the Red Sox, theyll probably hve shirts on sale commemorating the game starting tomorrow......those people will buy anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 And knowing the Red Sox, theyll probably hve shirts on sale commemorating the game starting tomorrow......those people will buy anything.Already bought 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Was this one of the dumbest moves in recent memory?John Gibbons manages my favourite team... I see bullpen moves like that on a daily basis Check the line on the Jays starting pitcher today, then look at the final score, blah. --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 Was this one of the dumbest moves in recent memory?John Gibbons manages my favourite team... I see bullpen moves like that on a daily basis Check the line on the Jays starting pitcher today, then look at the final score, blah.What the hell prompted that move? A no-hitter through 6 innings with only 78 pitches thrown, well no wonder why the Graphite Jays are 15-22. Send John my regards Christopher, I'm exstatic to have such incapable managers in the East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC97 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Was this one of the dumbest moves in recent memory?John Gibbons manages my favourite team... I see bullpen moves like that on a daily basis Check the line on the Jays starting pitcher today, then look at the final score, blah.What the hell prompted that move? A no-hitter through 6 innings with only 78 pitches thrown, well no wonder why the Graphite Jays are 15-22. Send John my regards Christopher, I'm exstatic to have such incapable managers in the East.Bullpen pitcher making first start of the season... I don't care if there's a pitch count or not, if your pitcher is dominating like that you leave him in.Going over a pitch count once ain't going to kill your pitcher... I mean Tim Wakefield (bad example) threw 172 pitches in a game back in '93 and he's still doing fine. --- Chris Creamer Founder/Editor, SportsLogos.Net "The Mothership" • News • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreFan Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Yes, the Orioles suck, thanks for reminding me. Honestly this is the worst run franchise in sports. Stupid moves are made constantly. We've already had two devasting loses in which we've collapsed in the ninth (yankees arod grandslam). I'm still wondering why Freddie Bynum and Paul Bako are on the MLB roster. There both pathetic and don't belong anywhere near the MLB. We have two quality bench guys in JR House and Jon Knott that could fill both their spots and be much more useful. Yet we stick with the scrubs. Peter Angelos has ruined the Orioles. I've never wished bad things upon another human being, but I'm pretty close to doing it with Angelos. I don't know why I've thought this year would be any different this year. With Angelos at the top we will never have another winning season. We could have the AL All Star team as our roster and still find a way to finish with a losing record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 My worst :censored:ing nightmare...The Red Sox look like the best team in baseball. It's still a long way to October. If I had a dollar for every time I've seen some bonehead manager pull a starter while he's pitching a gem only to see the bullpen get knocked all over the park I'd be writing this from my beach house in Hawaii instead of Ohio. When guy is throwing like that a good manager will just get out of the way. Unfortunately The O's don't have a good manager. All that being said and done...are you kidding me? Jeremy Guthrie? Probably the best game he'll ever pitch and he'll have nothing to show for it. All roads lead to Dollar General. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I'm still wondering why Freddie Bynum and Paul Bako are on the MLB roster. There both pathetic and don't belong anywhere near the MLB.A bit of a side note yes. So THATS where Bynum ended up. I remember watching him play for Sacramento for a few years and he quickly became one of my favorite minor league players. He didnt resign with Oakland/Sacramento and I figured he was probably playing AAA ball somewhere else, seeing as he was basically tabbed a career minor leaguer. But then on Opening Day last season I was watching the Cubs Reds game and in the Ninth the Cubs sent in a pinch runner, none other than Freddie Bynum. I was stunned to see he not only made a big league club, but accually made the opening day roster and even played opening day. Im happy to see him in the bigs, but he's not exactly the definition of a sure major leaguer.EDIT: Woah porn. Wax a pole eh? Yup, thats going in my member title. Maybe I should use that pic as my avatar. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJMorris3 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 My team is managed by Uncle Charlie. I'm used to bad bullpen moves by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 The only printable thing I can say is I'm glad I went out to dinner and was seated just before the bottom of the 9th, thus sparing me the agony of actually watching the whole thing unfold. Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly97flyer Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 My team is managed by Uncle Charlie. I'm used to bad bullpen moves by now.Paired with the fact that right now Alfonseca and Geary cant get guys out, this may be the worst bullpen weve had in years.....and that's saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMcD Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I was out to dinner with my mom yesterday, I check a TV on in the bar of the restaurant, and it's 5-0 O's thinking all is well. When I get home go on the internet to see the O's at .500 I flip out. Come on, 8.1 Shutout innings, and you take him out. 90 Pitches, 3 hits. :censored: YOU Angelos and Perlozzo. Sell the team NOW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreFan Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Im happy to see him in the bigs, but he's not exactly the definition of a sure major leaguer.Yea, he's plays hard and would have been a great bench player for the O's in the past (not saying much). But we have a great pinch hitter/lefty masher in Jon Knott. The guy hit 30 homers last season in the minors. I have no clue why we aren't taking a chance on him. Jeremy Guthrie? Probably the best game he'll ever pitch and he'll have nothing to show for it.I wouldn't say he has nothing to show for it, Wins are an overrated stat (for this exact reason). Plus he was a former 1st round draft pick. So he has some pretty good stuff. Not saying I expect him to pitch like that again, but I think he could surprise people. The O's really have made some good scouting moves, but make bonehead roster moves. I don't think they'll ever put it together on the field (as long as Angelos owns the team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Jeremy Guthrie? Probably the best game he'll ever pitch and he'll have nothing to show for it.I wouldn't say he has nothing to show for it, Wins are an overrated stat (for this exact reason). Plus he was a former 1st round draft pick. So he has some pretty good stuff. Not saying I expect him to pitch like that again, but I think he could surprise people. Well we waited for him to "surprise us" for a while here in Cleveland and, as you can see, he did so well for The Tribe that he's now pitching in Baltimore. I hope you're right and he gives you some value but I wouldn't hold my breath either. He's got nice velocity and not much else. All roads lead to Dollar General. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 My worst :censored:ing nightmare...The Red Sox look like the best team in baseball. It's still a long way to October. If I had a dollar for every time I've seen some bonehead manager pull a starter while he's pitching a gem only to see the bullpen get knocked all over the park I'd be writing this from my beach house in Hawaii instead of Ohio. When guy is throwing like that a good manager will just get out of the way. Unfortunately The O's don't have a good manager. All that being said and done...are you kidding me? Jeremy Guthrie? Probably the best game he'll ever pitch and he'll have nothing to show for it.Most runs scored in the Major League... fewest runs allowed. You're right, though -- a long way to October, but I absolutely love this team... every aspect of it. Well, Except Tavarez starting every fifth game and I might like to see Wily Mo Pena starting in CF over Coco Crisp. You'll find a lot of bad bullpen management in the AL East. Not so much this year from Francona (because we have more than one or two capable arms in the pen), but last year he had his fair share of head scratchers. Joe Torre couldn't manage a pitching staff if his life depended on it, and any time a Devil Rays reliever gets the nod it's a roll of the dice. This, though, and the Blue Jays pitcher getting yanked are as bad as I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Joe Torre couldn't manage a pitching staff if his life depended on it, and any time a Devil Rays reliever gets the nod it's a roll of the dice. This, though, and the Blue Jays pitcher getting yanked are as bad as I've seen.I've always thought Joe Torre was way overrated as a manager. I'm not saying he's a bad manager but he's not even in the ballpark of great managers. He seems to know how to handle a team full of high salaried stars and that's what it takes with the Yankees. Give Torre a team like the Tigers or Twins and he's lucky to go .500. Just ask Atlanta... I'd love to see what the D-Rays could do with even a hint of a bullpen. Too bad they're in the AL East. They'll never be able to compete with the Boston and New York duopoly. The problem is that coaching staffs baby the pitchers too much. Could you imagine Bob Gibson pitching 8 1/3 of three hit ball and coming out of the game? I think pitch counts are ridiculous. If the guy is throwing well you leave him in. Period. Especially with a lead of three or more runs. All roads lead to Dollar General. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 I think maybe the O's should consider trying to nab Grady Little from the Dodgers. No way Guthrie wouldda came outta that game. On 4/10/2017 at 3:05 PM, Rollins Man said: what the hell is ccslc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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