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As much as I like your LA-CHC prediction, I don't see much chance, even with Manny, that the Dodgers get past Chicago. Their pitching staffs are about equal, but the Cubs' offensive firepower is much better than the Dodgers. LA only has Manny (and I guess Andre Ethier) as legit power hitters, while the Cubs have 5 guys who hit 20 HRs.

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As much as I like your LA-CHC prediction, I don't see much chance, even with Manny, that the Dodgers get past Chicago. Their pitching staffs are about equal, but the Cubs' offensive firepower is much better than the Dodgers. LA only has Manny (and I guess Andre Ethier) as legit power hitters, while the Cubs have 5 guys who hit 20 HRs.

Now many here know that I can't stand the Dodgers, but I also don't know a whole lot about the stats. Just out of curiosity, who in the world does LA have on that staff that match up even slightly well with Zambrano, Harden, Lilly, Dempster, AND Marquis?

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As much as I like your LA-CHC prediction, I don't see much chance, even with Manny, that the Dodgers get past Chicago. Their pitching staffs are about equal, but the Cubs' offensive firepower is much better than the Dodgers. LA only has Manny (and I guess Andre Ethier) as legit power hitters, while the Cubs have 5 guys who hit 20 HRs.

Now many here know that I can't stand the Dodgers, but I also don't know a whole lot about the stats. Just out of curiosity, who in the world does LA have on that staff that match up even slightly well with Zambrano, Harden, Lilly, Dempster, AND Marquis?

How about Derek Lowe, Chad Billingsley, and Hiroki Kuroda?

I'd give the nod to the Cubs, rotation wise, but not by very much.

edit: By the way, here's their FIP's to back my argument...

Harden - 3.10

Zambrano - 4.29

Dempster - 3.46

Lowe - 3.23

Billingsley - 3.33

Kuroda - 3.53

Now that's without looking too far into the numbers -- but based on that, I'd only take the Cubs based on Lilly being better than Maddux, who I would assume is the Dodgers #4. If they go three deep, though... it's a tossup.

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Um, tank...had the Cubs won on Sunday, the Brewers probably would've still beaten the Mets on Monday night to advance to the playoffs as the wild card anyway...so it's not like the Cubs losing forced them to face LA. They would've faced them anyway, because the Mets would've been defeated in game #163 anyway...

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Um, tank...had the Cubs won on Sunday, the Brewers probably would've still beaten the Mets on Monday night to advance to the playoffs as the wild card anyway...so it's not like the Cubs losing forced them to face LA. They would've faced them anyway, because the Mets would've been defeated in game #163 anyway...
The Brewers might not have beaten the Mets without Sabathia.

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The Brewers were swept in Miller Park by the Mets I have no doubt the Mets would have won that game.

Really? No doubt? The same Mets team who has a horrible bullpen and can't hit with RISP? The same Mets team who lost 4 of 6 to Atlanta down the stretch? The same Mets team who would have thrown an anything-but vintage Pedro Martinez to the mound? You need me to keep going?

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Who would the Brewers have thrown?

Who would the Mets have thrown? Pedro? Pelfrey, Santana, and Oliver Perez were all unavailable assuming they would've played the game on the 29th.

Pedro who would have pitched 6 solid innings, keep in mind the Brewers pen has some warts too, and the Mets man handled the Brewers in September.

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Who would the Brewers have thrown?

Who would the Mets have thrown? Pedro? Pelfrey, Santana, and Oliver Perez were all unavailable assuming they would've played the game on the 29th.

Pedro who would have pitched 6 solid innings, keep in mind the Brewers pen has some warts too, and the Mets man handled the Brewers in September.

Are we STILL talking about the friggin' Mets?!...

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The Brewers were swept in Miller Park by the Mets I have no doubt the Mets would have won that game.

What, do you have a crystal ball?

What's the point? The Mets could not do what they needed to do, win as many games as the Brewers. I think they needed to do that first.

Don't put the cart before the horse: Don't talk about the play-off before winning enough games.

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The Brewers were swept in Miller Park by the Mets I have no doubt the Mets would have won that game.

What, do you have a crystal ball?

What's the point? The Mets could not do what they needed to do, win as many games as the Brewers. I think they needed to do that first.

Don't put the cart before the horse: Don't talk about the play-off before winning enough games.

Your post is pretty much my point. The only difference between mine and yours was that I chose the words, "What, do you have a crystal ball?" and you chose the words, "What's the point? The Mets could not do what they needed to do, win as many games as the Brewers. I think they needed to do that first.

Don't put the cart before the horse: Don't talk about the play-off before winning enough games."

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Just out of curiosity, who in the world does LA have on that staff that match up even slightly well with Zambrano, Harden, Lilly, Dempster, AND Marquis?

Well, let's see:

Lowe 6.0IP, 7H, 2R, 2ER, 1BB, 6K

vs

Dempster 4.2IP, 4H, 4R, 4ER, 7BB, 2K

Billingsley 6.2IP, 5H, 1R, 1ER, 1BB, 7K

vs.

Zambrano 6.1IP, 6H, 7R, 3ER, 2BB, 7K (Thank you Cubs Infield for attending the Dan Uggla All-Star School of Fielding)

Kuroda 6.1IP, 6H, 0R, 0ER, 2BB, 4K

vs.

Harden 4.1IP, 5H, 3R, 3ER, 3BB, 4K

OOPS! Looks like all they needed was the three. Well better luck next year Cubs. Now that being said, I'll sit back and enjoy watching the Phillies wipe the field with the Bums of Brown Sky City.

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