Brian in Boston Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 ... you all are vastly overrating academics in all of this.Bingo! How anyone - most especially college presidents, chancellors, athletic directors, trustees, etc. - can say with a straight face that big-time college athletics has anything whatsoever to do with maintaining, let alone improving, academic standards is beyond me. Such claims are nothing more than empty, self-serving, disingenuous prattle. The cart has long since been placed in front of the horse when it comes to the relationship between major college athletics and academics. The dereliction of duty that the aforementioned officials are involved in at the major college level strikes me as being, at the very least, immoral, if not downright criminal. Frankly, I find it disgusting... which is the primary reason that I have no interest in the cesspool of warped priorities that is big-time college sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 FSU is the latest, greatest example. Their prez tried to stick up for the ACC and academics. Now he is about to be fired for it.If the SEC had to choose between Vandy or LSU to keep, who would the choose? Pac 12, USC or Stanford? exactly.BOLD PREDICTION: Notre Dame ends up somewhere with in a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Don't read too much in to it but Austin radio reports that FSU, Clemson, Notre Dame and a partner with ND will be joining. Georgia Tech looks to be that partner. ND will join in olympic sports in 2013 and football in 2016. That is when NBC expires. Notre Dame network will begin. This was also repeated by a few SEC and BIg 12 insiders. Says VT is all but in the SEC and NC State is #1 to follow. We will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonBlue Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Possible shakeout based on current rumors Pac 12WashingtonWash. St.Oregon Oregon St.StanfordCaliforniaArizonaArizona St.UtahColoradoUSCUCLABig 16TexasTexas TechTCUBaylorKansas Kansas St.Oklahoma Ok. StateWest VirginiaIowa StateFlorida St.ClemsonNotre DameGeorgia TechLouisvillePIT or CINCY? (heard little talk on these two, but if they take others they'll likely need one to have an even number) Big 10NebraskaIowaIndianaPurdueIllinoisNorthwesternWisconsinMinnesotaMarylandDukeUNCVAOhio St.Michigan St.Michigan St.Penn St.SECTennesseeGeorgiaSouth CarolinaFloridaKentuckyVanderbiltVa TechNC StateOle MissMiss St.LSUAuburnAlabamaTX A&MArkansasMizzouThen perhaps the Big East basketball schools break away and add some A10 schools and the football schools merge with the ACC.ACCBoston CollegeUconnTempleSyracuseRutgersWake ForestMemphisMiamiSouth FlaCent FlaSMUHoustonPIT or CINCY?NAVY (FB only)I gotta think if this happens Boise St. and San Diego St. go back to the Mtn. West. That ACC conference is still a lot of decent schools to leave out of the national championship picture permanently if this four superconference thing is going to happen. And of course as we've discussed here, the Pac-12's lack of viable expansion teams is an issue.It amazes me how the Big 12 went from its death bed to major player in a year.And geography, academics, tradition, etc., are completely out the window at this point. I bet when it's done these new alignments will make the old NFC West of CAR, NO, ATL, STL, SF almost seem logical! Quote "I did absolutely nothing and it was everything I thought it could be." -Peter Gibbons RIP Demitra #38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoknight Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Possible shakeout based on current rumors Pac 12WashingtonWash. St.Oregon Oregon St.StanfordCaliforniaArizonaArizona St.UtahColoradoUSCUCLABig 16TexasTexas TechTCUBaylorKansas Kansas St.Oklahoma Ok. StateWest VirginiaIowa StateFlorida St.ClemsonNotre DameGeorgia TechLouisvillePIT or CINCY? (heard little talk on these two, but if they take others they'll likely need one to have an even number) Big 10NebraskaIowaIndianaPurdueIllinoisNorthwesternWisconsinMinnesotaMarylandDukeUNCVAOhio St.Michigan St.Michigan St.Penn St.SECTennesseeGeorgiaSouth CarolinaFloridaKentuckyVanderbiltVa TechNC StateOle MissMiss St.LSUAuburnAlabamaTX A&MArkansasMizzouThen perhaps the Big East basketball schools break away and add some A10 schools and the football schools merge with the ACC.ACCBoston CollegeUconnTempleSyracuseRutgersWake ForestMemphisMiamiSouth FlaCent FlaSMUHoustonPIT or CINCY?NAVY (FB only)I gotta think if this happens Boise St. and San Diego St. go back to the Mtn. West. That ACC conference is still a lot of decent schools to leave out of the national championship picture permanently if this four superconference thing is going to happen. And of course as we've discussed here, the Pac-12's lack of viable expansion teams is an issue.It amazes me how the Big 12 went from its death bed to major player in a year.And geography, academics, tradition, etc., are completely out the window at this point. I bet when it's done these new alignments will make the old NFC West of CAR, NO, ATL, STL, SF almost seem logical!This was almost my exact breakdown that I did on paper the other day. I think the Pac-12 will be severely limited in their expansion options. Part of the problem is a lack of quality teams, but the other side of the coin is their insistence on academic standards. For example, the "Little Californias" (Fresno, SDSU, San Jose) would all get stumped by the Big Four (Cal, USC, UCLA, Stanford). They've made no bones about being "THE ONLY" California universities.Same would go for rivalry add-ons like Colorado State or Utah State. The only "real" options for them might be Boise State, BYU, Hawaii and/or Nevada. And those are all REAL big stretches. Quote 5th in NAT. TITLES | 2nd in CONF. TITLES | 5th in HEISMAN | 7th in DRAFTS | 8th in ALL-AMER | 7th in WINS | 4th in BOWLS | 1st in SELLOUTS | 1st GAMEDAY SIGN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 They will find someone. Remember, The Pac 12 may always be the last horse to cross the finish line but it always crosses. The SEC went to 14 to get to 16. They will get there and this is the perfect time to do so. If so, the Big 10 will follow. May take longer than the others but the Pac 12 will adopt a pod system soon enough. One or two who don't really belong may just get in by default. Like PK is saying, who???? But it will happen one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJourney Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Then perhaps the Big East basketball schools break away and add some A10 schools.The 7 Division I basketball only Big East Schools could add Dayton, Xavier & St. Louis from the A-10.Then you have perfect symmetry5 East Coast schools: Georgetown, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John's, Villanova 5 Midwest Schools: Dayton, DePaul, Marquette, St. Louis, Xavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Dallas News on ND to the Big 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 A couple of sources are saying that GT and the Big 10 are talking with a few other ACC teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvrdgsfn Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Dallas News on ND to the Big 12It amazes me that a conference that was going to be considered dead in a few years is now getting stronger. Whatever happened, the Big 12 is making a lot of noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 A couple of sources are saying that GT and the Big 10 are talking with a few other ACC teams.I hope they like Ro-Tel down in SEC-Land Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 A couple of sources are saying that GT and the Big 10 are talking with a few other ACC teams.I hope they like Ro-Tel down in SEC-LandNever heard of anything Ro-Tel until today. No lie, I am eating Ro-Tel Velveta Shells & Cheese as I type. LOL, It is a sign of things to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMac12 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 A couple of sources are saying that GT and the Big 10 are talking with a few other ACC teams.I hope they like Ro-Tel down in SEC-LandNever heard of anything Ro-Tel until today. No lie, I am eating Ro-Tel Velveta Shells & Cheese as I type. LOL, It is a sign of things to come.Clever segue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Clemson is currently having an emergency meeting for undisclosed reasons. Hmmmm..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMcD29 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Clemson is currently having an emergency meeting for undisclosed reasons. Hmmmm.....8-Ball was finally caught in possession of crack Quote Twitter: @RyanMcD29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Here is a funny post from a blogger. It is on the reaction of the coming conference shift. There is one picture pretty graphic in violence so click with caution. It isn't real but they did a good job. Most are dead on. Especially Swofford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Actually I think Wake Forest's response would be to call Florida State cowards for running away from them. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Actually I think Wake Forest's response would be to call Florida State cowards for running away from them.And just like in football no one will take them seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Actually I think Wake Forest's response would be to call Florida State cowards for running away from them.And just like in football no one will take them seriously.And that's why FSU has lost 4 of their last 6 games with Wake. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Actually I think Wake Forest's response would be to call Florida State cowards for running away from them.And just like in football no one will take them seriously.And that's why FSU has lost 4 of their last 6 games with Wake.It happens. But don't be clueless for the sake of trolling. Grow up and stick to the topic. I have been an adult, why cant you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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