Burmy Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Part of me says, "If he wants the rights to that logo, he should ask the GBL to reactivate the Mesa Miners then!" Another part's saying "Just shut up".Both have worked out a compromise. Now I say: "They did what they could for this season, but they BETTER get a redesign for next season!"(then again, I'm frequently surrounded by semi-pro football, so ripoffs occur on a daily basis there)That's the dumbest statement I've heard in a long time. Someone stole his work, and we're talking hours if not weeks or months of work, and you sit there and say, "Just shut up"? *shakes head* Oh and he doesn't have to ask the league to reactivate the logo, it's his unless he sold it to them outright, so unless he sold all artwork to them outright, then he OWNS the logo,I meant "Just shut up" in that I should just stop posting in this topic...shoulda phrased it better. And yes, I put my foot in my mouth here (things like this usually happen when you've had too much Merlot...I'm going to stop posting in this thread and use my energy for threads for which I can give better input).So, do y'all forgive me now that I've backed down from my old stance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Lot of bad blood rising in a Mesa Miners thread, guys. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDixonDesign Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Eh, not bad blood, simply a touchy subject when it comes to creative minds putting out original work and it being taken without merit. Anyhow, back on topic, any news on the front of confronting the Diamonds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnygriswold Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 Man, I'd be so pissed off.I'm curious as to how all this will play out and what you did/do to protect your creations, Studio Simon.They took the time to mash up and steal two logos, why couldn't they just create their own design?? Amazing.By the way, that Mesa Miners logo is awesome! PuckDrawn.com - Hockey designMy sports logo portfolioSportDrawn.com - All Sports designPuckDrawn on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friarcanuck Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 arm looks familiar:It looks similar, but I don't think that's the logo. I know I've seen the arm/chest part of "their" logo somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microdragon Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 arm looks familiar:logoIt looks similar, but I don't think that's the logo. I know I've seen the arm/chest part of "their" logo somewhere else.you american are so naif, look at the rest of the world, many soccer team have their logo copied, and they dont have to face any lawsuits, for this i considered your complaints Stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 arm looks familiar:logoIt looks similar, but I don't think that's the logo. I know I've seen the arm/chest part of "their" logo somewhere else.you american are so naif, look at the rest of the world, many soccer team have their logo copied, and they dont have to face any lawsuits, for this i considered your complaints StupidWow...just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesi427 Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I would describe the offending logo as a "FRANKEN-LOGO." Let's mash up some old parts and give it <Gene Wilder> LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFEEE!!! </Gene Wilder> FANTASY SPORTS: UBA (NBA): New York Scrapers | CL (MLB): St Pete Beach Clippers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 arm looks familiar:logoIt looks similar, but I don't think that's the logo. I know I've seen the arm/chest part of "their" logo somewhere else.you american are so naif, look at the rest of the world, many soccer team have their logo copied, and they dont have to face any lawsuits, for this i considered your complaints StupidThe line at the deathstills is getting mighty crowded in this thread. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDR Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 arm looks familiar:logoIt looks similar, but I don't think that's the logo. I know I've seen the arm/chest part of "their" logo somewhere else.you american are so naif, look at the rest of the world, many soccer team have their logo copied, and they dont have to face any lawsuits, for this i considered your complaints StupidHoly :censored:! It's former WWF Champion the Iron Sheik! Mr. Sheik, have you always been interested in sports logo design? "You stupid Americans with your Buffaslug. Hock-fuey! Iran number one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Besides, they're not similar enough where a lawsuit can happen:Mesa Miners logo: Arkansas Diamonds logo: Maybe the same company made both logos? I have no idea...Take a second look at that face, it's a complete rip job. The only reason it's not the exact same is because the Diamonds "designer" probably didn't have a vector version and just live-traced/auto-traced the Mesa Miners face. Also, the structure of that arm is the same as in the UTEP logo, it's just that most of the straight lines have been curved, but I would bet your paycheck that whoever "designed" the Diamonds logo used that UTEP Miners arm as a base. At least they didn't rip off the old (original?) Diamondbacks wordmark. Actually, I'm quite surprised they didn't go that route. On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinznk Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I think they both kind of look like Stinky Pete the Prospector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDixonDesign Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 you american are so naif, look at the rest of the world, many soccer team have their logo copied, and they dont have to face any lawsuits, for this i considered your complaints StupidPost of the Day Week Month Year Decade Century Duration of this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docrocket Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 you american are so naif, look at the rest of the world, many soccer team have their logo copied, and they dont have to face any lawsuits, for this i considered your complaints StupidPost of the Day Week Month Year Decade Century Duration of this board. Sir Galahad: Is there someone else up there we can talk to? French Soldier: No, now go away or I shall taunt you a second time. I can haz sig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDixonDesign Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Haha, reading that statement reminds me of this deleted scene of EuroTrip, specifically the :40 mark: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 This is happening with ever-increasing frequency -- in the past couple of weeks alone, I have been alerted to four such instances of an identities developed by Studio Simon having been "co-opted" in this manner.Might one of those instances have involved the New England Collegiate Baseball League's Bristol Nine co-opting the Stockton Ports' old Mudville Nine identity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEd76 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Holy :censored:! It's former WWF Champion the Iron Sheik! Mr. Sheik, have you always been interested in sports logo design? hahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Guys, this is a really good thread. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio Simon Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Regarding johnnygriswold's post, in which he says "I'm curious as to how all this will play out and what you did/do to protect your creations, Studio Simon":I have notified the Golden Baseball League of the theft of their intellectual property, and they have indicated that they will be (if they have not already been) in contact with the Diamonds' ownership. What happens now remains to be seen.It should be noted that once a client pays us for our services, the ownership and all rights to all of the artwork that comprises the chosen direction are transferred to the client. So in instances where artwork is stolen in this manner, the creator of the artwork (in this case, Studio Simon) has no legal recourse -- any actions against the offending party have to come from the client (in this case, the Golden Baseball League) who now owns the artwork.Regarding other recent instances of identities developed by Studio Simon having been "co-opted" in this manner, Brian in Boston asks "Might one of those instances have involved the New England Collegiate Baseball League's Bristol Nine co-opting the Stockton Ports' old Mudville Nine identity?" In a word: Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Looks like the Bristol 9 have been forced to return their stolen logo, as well.Not surprising, since the Visalia Rawhides still sell lots of Mudville merchandise. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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