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Nothing wrong with a little self confidence, even if it is wrong.

I would put Eli in the top 10 QBs, but not the top 5.

Wait, wait, top 10 all-time? Or just top 10 currently?

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Borderline top 10 I'd say.

Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, Rivers, Ryan, Vick, Big Ben, Thats 8 I'd put clearly ahead of Eli, then there are guys like Cutler, Sanchez, Hasselbeck, Romo on a similar sort of level to Eli. (And probably a few who slipped my mind).

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I'm obviously a big Sanchez supporter, but he's not on that level yet. Does he get extra credit for what he's done in the playoffs, yes, but he hasn't put up a great regular season yet.

Tom Brady

Peyton Manning

Aaron Rogers

Drew Brees

Phillip Rivers

Ben Roethlisberger

Micheal Vick

Matt Schaub

Matt Ryan

Tony Romo

Eli Manning

Matt Cassel

Jay Cutler

Josh Freeman

Sam Bradford

Mark Sanchez

Joe Flacco

Matt Hasselbeck

Donavan McNabb

Kyle Orton

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One of the interesting parts of this debate is what do you mean by a good QB? A good passer? A good clutch leader? Etc etc. I think Eli probably would be ahead of Sanchez at the moment, but not by THAT far. Bradshaw's reputation grew because of rings, 1 ring ain't gonna do that for ya!

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One of the interesting parts of this debate is what do you mean by a good QB? A good passer? A good clutch leader? Etc etc. I think Eli probably would be ahead of Sanchez at the moment, but not by THAT far. Bradshaw's reputation grew because of rings, 1 ring ain't gonna do that for ya!

Being from North Jersey, I've seen alot of Eli since he was drafted. He's a much better QB in the 2-minute drill. With the game on the like, I like my chances with him. But over the course of a game and season he makes a ton of bone headed throws. He's kind of a poor mans Brett Favre.

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Matt Schaub ahead of Eli? Are you high?

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Nothing wrong with a little self confidence, even if it is wrong.

I would put Eli in the top 10 QBs, but not the top 5.

Wait, wait, top 10 all-time? Or just top 10 currently?

Currently

Here's my top ten

1. Peyton

2. Brady

3. Brees

4. Rodgers

5. Roethlisberger

6. Eli

7. Rivers

8. Vick

9. Romo

10. Ryan

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Nothing wrong with a little self confidence, even if it is wrong.

I would put Eli in the top 10 QBs, but not the top 5.

Wait, wait, top 10 all-time? Or just top 10 currently?

Currently

Here's my top ten

1. Peyton

2. Brady

3. Brees

4. Rodgers

5. Roethlisberger

6. Eli

7. Rivers

8. Vick

9. Romo

10. Ryan

I don't quite know how you have Romo ahead of Ryan, but Rivers below Eli. And Vick as the 8th? That's prejudice of some kind!

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Here's my top ten

1. Peyton

2. Brady

3. Brees

4. Rodgers

5. Roethlisberger

6. Eli

7. Rivers

8. Vick

9. Romo

10. Ryan

It appears like you are basing your list off of playoff success. While he has no rings (yet), I believe Mark Sanchez alerady has more playoff wins as a starter (4) than Eli (3). And has Matt Ryan won ONE a playoff game yet? Not that I'm saying Sanchez belongs in the Top Ten, but no way Eli and Ryan rank as high as you've got them -- that is if the playoffs matter to you.

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Here's my top ten

1. Peyton

2. Brady

3. Brees

4. Rodgers

5. Roethlisberger

6. Eli

7. Rivers

8. Vick

9. Romo

10. Ryan

It appears like you are basing your list off of playoff success. While he has no rings (yet), I believe Mark Sanchez alerady has more playoff wins as a starter (4) than Eli (3). And has Matt Ryan won ONE a playoff game yet? Not that I'm saying Sanchez belongs in the Top Ten, but no way Eli and Ryan rank as high as you've got them -- that is if the playoffs matter to you.

Eli has a Super Bowl ring for heavens sake, who cares if he has less wins than Sanchez.

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Matt Schaub ahead of Eli? Are you high?

No, are you? They are comparable QB's, all of the guys ranked 7-12 are, but I give Schaub an edge.

Schaub:

completion %: 64.8

passing yards per game: 276.02

avg: 7.8

TDs per game: 1.52

QB rating: 91.5

turnovers per game: 1.16

Manning:

completion %: 58.0

passing yards per game: 219.87

avg: 6.8

TDs per game: 1.54

QB rating: 80.2

turnovers per game 1.36

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Here's my top ten

1. Peyton

2. Brady

3. Brees

4. Rodgers

5. Roethlisberger

6. Eli

7. Rivers

8. Vick

9. Romo

10. Ryan

It appears like you are basing your list off of playoff success. While he has no rings (yet), I believe Mark Sanchez alerady has more playoff wins as a starter (4) than Eli (3). And has Matt Ryan won ONE a playoff game yet? Not that I'm saying Sanchez belongs in the Top Ten, but no way Eli and Ryan rank as high as you've got them -- that is if the playoffs matter to you.

Are we seriously crediting Sanchez for those playoff wins in his rookie season? The Jets won those games despite him, not because of him.

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Here's my top ten

1. Peyton

2. Brady

3. Brees

4. Rodgers

5. Roethlisberger

6. Eli

7. Rivers

8. Vick

9. Romo

10. Ryan

It appears like you are basing your list off of playoff success. While he has no rings (yet), I believe Mark Sanchez alerady has more playoff wins as a starter (4) than Eli (3). And has Matt Ryan won ONE a playoff game yet? Not that I'm saying Sanchez belongs in the Top Ten, but no way Eli and Ryan rank as high as you've got them -- that is if the playoffs matter to you.

Are we seriously crediting Sanchez for those playoff wins in his rookie season? The Jets won those games despite him, not because of him.

You are flat out wrong. Mark Sanchez played well in the playoffs. 60.5% completion %, 9 TD, 3 Int, 94.3 QB rating. That's pretty damn good for a rookie and second year QB all on the road in the playoffs vs. guys like Carson Palmer, Bed Roethlisberger, Phillip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady. He gets a ton of credit.

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Here's my top ten

1. Peyton

2. Brady

3. Brees

4. Rodgers

5. Roethlisberger

6. Eli

7. Rivers

8. Vick

9. Romo

10. Ryan

It appears like you are basing your list off of playoff success. While he has no rings (yet), I believe Mark Sanchez alerady has more playoff wins as a starter (4) than Eli (3). And has Matt Ryan won ONE a playoff game yet? Not that I'm saying Sanchez belongs in the Top Ten, but no way Eli and Ryan rank as high as you've got them -- that is if the playoffs matter to you.

Are we seriously crediting Sanchez for those playoff wins in his rookie season? The Jets won those games despite him, not because of him.

You're flat out wrong. Sanchez played well in the playoffs. 60.5% completion %, 9 TD, 3 Int, 94.3 QB rating. That's pretty damn good for a rookie and second year QB all on the road in the playoffs vs. guys like Carson Palmer, Phillip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady.

The numbers for these games are not impressive.

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Here's my top ten

1. Peyton

2. Brady

3. Brees

4. Rodgers

5. Roethlisberger

6. Eli

7. Rivers

8. Vick

9. Romo

10. Ryan

It appears like you are basing your list off of playoff success. While he has no rings (yet), I believe Mark Sanchez alerady has more playoff wins as a starter (4) than Eli (3). And has Matt Ryan won ONE a playoff game yet? Not that I'm saying Sanchez belongs in the Top Ten, but no way Eli and Ryan rank as high as you've got them -- that is if the playoffs matter to you.

Are we seriously crediting Sanchez for those playoff wins in his rookie season? The Jets won those games despite him, not because of him.

You're flat out wrong. Sanchez played well in the playoffs. 60.5% completion %, 9 TD, 3 Int, 94.3 QB rating. That's pretty damn good for a rookie and second year QB all on the road in the playoffs vs. guys like Carson Palmer, Phillip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady.

The numbers for these games are not impressive.

Completing 80% percentage of your passes, throwing a TD, and not turning over the ball is bad? He didn't play to well in the SD game but he led the drive at the end of the game to win it. And that's what matters. His overall playoff numbers a very solid, especially for a rookie and 2nd year player. Again, you are flat out wrong when you said the Jets won those playoff games despite him.

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The Jets don't win those games without Shonn Greene. This is not debatable.

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The Jets don't win those games without Shonn Greene. This is not debatable.

Last time I checked football was a team game, and yes.. Shonn Greene was part of those teams, and still is, but Green doesn't get that long TD run late in the 4th if Sanchez doesn't hit Cotchery on the 3rd down play just before it.

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And the team bailed Sanchez's ass out. Again and again.

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I'm obviously a big Sanchez supporter, but he's not on that level yet. Does he get extra credit for what he's done in the playoffs, yes, but he hasn't put up a great regular season yet.

Tom Brady

Peyton Manning

Aaron Rogers

Drew Brees

Phillip Rivers

Ben Roethlisberger

Micheal Vick

Matt Schaub

Matt Ryan

Tony Romo

Eli Manning

Matt Cassel

Jay Cutler

Matthew Stafford

Josh Freeman

Sam Bradford

Mark Sanchez

Joe Flacco

Matt Hasselbeck

Donavan McNabb

Kyle Orton

My boy should be right there.

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Ndamukong Suh was fined 20,000 for inspiring my avatar. Funny how us Lions fans can spell Ndamukong so quickly now. :P

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