the_cynic Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 The trade was finally completed today.ESPN StoryMagic Get:Steve FrancisCuttino MobleyKelvin CatoRockets Get:Tracy McGradyJuwan HowardTyronn LueReece Gaines Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I Get:McGrady Magic Jersey at Clearance Price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodsep Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I like this trade. TMac gets out of Orlando. And Orlando gets a capable backcourt and a ok center. Can't wait so see how TMac/Yao/Howard front court works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cynic Posted June 29, 2004 Author Share Posted June 29, 2004 I like this trade. TMac gets out of Orlando. And Orlando gets a capable backcourt and a ok center. Can't wait so see how TMac/Yao/Howard front court works out.Well seeing how Yao won't ever get the ball now........TRY DISASTER! Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitroseed Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Wonderful. Now can we trade the Rockets' logo and uniforms for some better ones? EDIT: Okay, scratch that... the uniforms aren't SO bad... but for pete's sake, change the logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 My reaction: YAWN. I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 This crowds the Orlando backcourt nicely. I'm sure Jameer Nelson will love riding the pine behind Steve No-Longer-the-Franchise and Cuttino Mobley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discrim Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 and now let's play where will Stevie go? he never wanted any part of the Magic to begin with, and there's some angry big fella over in LA, name's House, Condo or something like that. maybe package Franchise + Grant Hill for that guy...it all makes sense. and again, this is why i'm not an NBA GM-my idea makes some sense A strong mind gets high off success, a weak mind gets high off bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodsep Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I like this trade. TMac gets out of Orlando. And Orlando gets a capable backcourt and a ok center. Can't wait so see how TMac/Yao/Howard front court works out.Well seeing how Yao won't ever get the ball now........TRY DISASTER! LOL. Could be! or it could be greatness IF TMac learns to pass the D@MN ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 This now makes the Rockets a serious contender www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 T-Mac will pass. He's a smart enough player to where he will pass when he has players that are capable of doing something on his team. It's not like he's towards the top of the league in terms of assists per 48 minutes for a SG... oh wait, he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLChandler Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 A lot of us have probably seen this trade coming for a couple weeks now and I still can't tell who got the best of this deal. For one, the Rockets are knee deep in sub par point guards. Tyronn Lue, Reece Gaines, Mark Jackson, and Mike Wilks. I suspect that the Rockets are gonna try and rid one or two of them and try to land a young pg.Projected Rockets Lineup:PG - Tyronn LueSG - Tracy McGradySF - Jimmy JacksonPF - Juwan Howard/Mo TaylorC - Yao MingThe Magic on the other hand now have 2 possible starting pg's in Jameer Nelson and Stevie Franchise. I don't know if they are going to keep both of them but with having Francis it will definately stunt Nelson's growth in the NBA. Unless of course they pull off a trade to bring in a much needed SF or C. I suspect another lottery season for Orlando.Projected Magic Lineup:PG - Steve FrancisSG - Cuttino MobelySF - Keith Bogans/Deshawn StevensonPF - Kelvin Cato/Dwight HowardC - Drew Gooden/Andrew Declercq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cynic Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 Here's some interesting statistics between the two from the 2003-04 season. And you honestly think Yao will still get the ball as often? Steve FrancisAssists Per FGA: .441Assists Per FGM: 1.095FGA Per Game: 14.139FGA Per Minute: .349Tracy McGradyAssists Per FGA: .236Assists Per FGM: .566FGA Per Game: 23.373FGA Per Minute: .585 Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Here's some interesting statistics between the two from the 2003-04 season. And you honestly think Yao will still get the ball as often? Steve FrancisAssists Per FGA: .441Assists Per FGM: 1.095FGA Per Game: 14.139FGA Per Minute: .349Tracy McGradyAssists Per FGA: .236Assists Per FGM: .566FGA Per Game: 23.373FGA Per Minute: .585 These stats are very convincing, however remember that T-Mac was the only star-quality player on his team, whereas Steve Francis had a much better cast, and as a result, more motivation to pass the rock.Interesting stats regardless BS... thanks for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Here's some interesting statistics between the two from the 2003-04 season. And you honestly think Yao will still get the ball as often? Steve FrancisAssists Per FGA: .441Assists Per FGM: 1.095FGA Per Game: 14.139FGA Per Minute: .349Tracy McGradyAssists Per FGA: .236Assists Per FGM: .566FGA Per Game: 23.373FGA Per Minute: .585 well all those stats say is that Francis played on a team with a big center to aim at and more attacking presence than the Magic had, while T Mac is more of a scoring PG than francis. Yao will still get his fair share of the ball. He is the kind of big target any PG is gonna want in his team. 2011/12 WFL Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cynic Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 What are you guys talking about. I think you forget that the Magic had Juwan Howard and Drew Gooden, both players who shot better than McGrady this past season. The Magic had just as many players scoring in double figures as the Rockets did. I can Yao's numbers going up this upcoming season but I don't think McGrady is as good of a team player as Francis was and that's not saying much. Championship contenders now? Give me a break! Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Drew Gooden and Juwan Howard? I've never been impressed with Juwan Howard. I couldn't wait to see him go when he was a Nugget. And Drew Gooden is a good player, but he's far from a star. Yao Ming will get the ball.And to say that Drew Gooden and Juwan Howard shot better than T-Mac -- well, no crap! It's alot easier to make shots from inside the paint. T-Mac has to create shots for himself, and T-Mac has to face double teams and gets matched up against his opponents best defensive players. Most big men do shoot a better % than guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_cynic Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 T-Mac has to create shots for himself, and T-Mac has to face double teams and gets matched up against his opponents best defensive players. Most big men do shoot a better % than guards. So why not give up the ball more? You know McGrady touched the ball everytime down the court. Utah Jazz Retired Number's#1 - Frank Layden - #7 Pete Maravich - #12 John Stockton - #14 Jeff Hornacek - #35 Darrell Griffith - #53 Mark EatonRetired Number's To Come#00 The Bear (Best Mascot In NBA) - #4 Adrian Dantley - #32 Karl "The Mailman" Malone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMS1122 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Projected Magic Lineup:PG - Steve FrancisSG - Cuttino MobelySF - Keith Bogans/Deshawn StevensonPF - Kelvin Cato/Dwight HowardC - Drew Gooden/Andrew Declercq i think these are about right just switch Cato and Gooden's positionsGooden cannot play center at 6'8, 6'9the only player capable of that is Ben Wallace GMS on dribbbleErie Apparel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Because the offense is run through McGrady. McGrady doesn't only up himself, he has the potential to single handedly pick away at a defense. And the Magic never had a good PG so it pretty much had to go through him every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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