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Could be. I'm willing to wager Joe's pooped himself at work, too.

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An interesting point raised in the Sharks article: Golden State will soon vacate Oracle in Oakland, and the Kings will soon have a new arena.

So if this "2 teams, 1 arena" stuff doesnt work out or the novelty wears off after a couple years, there might be nearby options available.

And Sharks Ice in San Jose where the NHL team practices is planning to build a small arena on site as well which could also host the little Sharks if neither of those two options pans out. On top of that the new SF arena probably would be an option to consider as well. Plenty of places the Sharks AHL team could ultimately land. SAP center is hopefully a temporary option.

And I agree that whomever stated that it sucks that Worcester is losing their team not even to another minor league town does suck. And unlike Norfolk or Manchester who are getting ECHL teams to replace their lost AHL teams, the Sharks don't have an ECHL team to move into Worcester. Only consolation seems to be that the Bruins may be exploring moving their ECHL team there instead so they'll have local affiliated puck in place of the WorSharks even if lower level.

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Am I the only one who would kinda like to see the San Diego Mariners come back? WHA history aside, it'd make sense and would subtly recall the franchise's prior history as the Norfolk Admirals.

Being in SD I get the sense the Gulls name coming back is a must. The old Gulls didn't close down for lack of local support but rather owner indifference. That and it makes sense having one water foul as the minor league team of another.

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Am I the only one who would kinda like to see the San Diego Mariners come back? WHA history aside, it'd make sense and would subtly recall the franchise's prior history as the Norfolk Admirals.

Being in SD I get the sense the Gulls name coming back is a must. The old Gulls didn't close down for lack of local support but rather owner indifference. That and it makes sense having one water foul as the minor league team of another.

Hopefully they can get the OK from the junior hockey Gulls...then again, they're the Ducks, so they can throw some good money towards them to get that going.

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Am I the only one who would kinda like to see the San Diego Mariners come back? WHA history aside, it'd make sense and would subtly recall the franchise's prior history as the Norfolk Admirals.

Being in SD I get the sense the Gulls name coming back is a must. The old Gulls didn't close down for lack of local support but rather owner indifference. That and it makes sense having one water foul as the minor league team of another.

Hopefully they can get the OK from the junior hockey Gulls...then again, they're the Ducks, so they can throw some good money towards them to get that going.

As I mentioned on some thread, $100,000 would be more than enough to buy back the rights to the moniker.

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Still, wherever they end up, I pray they keep the original Sharks logo!

If it's San Jose, they'll almost certainly adopt the current NHL Sharks logo - otherwise they'd have to repaint the logo at center ice on every changeover between the NHL and AHL Sharks.

They'll probably go with a different uni style and a variation on the Sharks name for the AHL team, in order to differentiate it from its parent club/arena-mate. Tiburones (Spanish for "Sharks"), perhaps?

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Am I the only one who would kinda like to see the San Diego Mariners come back? WHA history aside, it'd make sense and would subtly recall the franchise's prior history as the Norfolk Admirals.

Being in SD I get the sense the Gulls name coming back is a must. The old Gulls didn't close down for lack of local support but rather owner indifference. That and it makes sense having one water foul as the minor league team of another.

Hopefully they can get the OK from the junior hockey Gulls...then again, they're the Ducks, so they can throw some good money towards them to get that going.

As I mentioned on some thread, $100,000 would be more than enough to buy back the rights to the moniker.

The Jr club does currently own "San Diego Gulls" as a trademark since last August (they used it for years despite being in possible violation of the original holders). But the ECHL still owns "Gulls San Diego." Either way I figure the ECHL will play ball with the AHL given their relationship. And the Jr Gulls will take a small buy off for their shoestring operation no doubt.

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Still, wherever they end up, I pray they keep the original Sharks logo!

If it's San Jose, they'll almost certainly adopt the current NHL Sharks logo - otherwise they'd have to repaint the logo at center ice on every changeover between the NHL and AHL Sharks.

They'll probably go with a different uni style and a variation on the Sharks name for the AHL team, in order to differentiate it from its parent club/arena-mate. Tiburones (Spanish for "Sharks"), perhaps?

Yeah they've said they're going to rename the team, but not to what. But it'll undoubtedly be Shark related but distinct. The old Sharks logo it appears though will unfortunately die with Worcester. I for one will be sorry to see it go. I never warmed to the new one.

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Watch it be something like San Jose Sharks 2, kinda like the MLS-US PRO with Timbers 2, Galaxy II, Whitecaps 2, etc.

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Watch it be something like San Jose Sharks 2, kinda like the MLS-US PRO with Timbers 2, Galaxy II, Whitecaps 2, etc.

Actually they've said it won't be Sharks. That's the only name we know HAS been ruled out. They don't want to create any market confusion or take away from the primary team. It seems to be the Tiburones someone suggested might be what they're going to go with. It's the same, yet different. Doesn't require a logo change at all from the big club.

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"Tiburones"? That's a Latino Heritage Night jersey pick...works for a minor league affiliate, just not one in the same EXACT CITY.

(although I would like to see the CaL's San Jose team change their nickname to the "Gigantes")

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Still, wherever they end up, I pray they keep the original Sharks logo!

If it's San Jose, they'll almost certainly adopt the current NHL Sharks logo - otherwise they'd have to repaint the logo at center ice on every changeover between the NHL and AHL Sharks.

They'll probably go with a different uni style and a variation on the Sharks name for the AHL team, in order to differentiate it from its parent club/arena-mate. Tiburones (Spanish for "Sharks"), perhaps?

Yeah they've said they're going to rename the team, but not to what. But it'll undoubtedly be Shark related but distinct.

How about NorCal Makos or Bay Area Makos?

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Now it became official. Norfolk is going to California but they're getting Bakersfield & returning to the ECHL.

http://wavy.com/2015/01/23/norfolk-admirals-owner-forced-to-sell-team/

After weeks of rumors regarding the future of the Norfolk’s American Hockey League franchise, Norfolk Admirals owner Ken Young confirmed to WAVY Sports Director Bruce Rader that he is being forced to sell the team to the Anaheim Ducks.

It is not a happy week for Young, who 11 years ago was considered the savior of Hampton Roads hockey when he bought the AHL Admirals, keeping them in Norfolk. NHL owners, have decided they want their top minor league teams closer to home, so this weekend the forced sale will be announced. Young said the Anaheim Ducks will move the franchise to California at the end of this season.

“We didn’t have any choice,” Young said. “It was either keep a team that would not have an affiliation, so we would not have dates or have to sell to Anaheim, which if the Pacific division gets voted on by the American Hockey League this weekend then what we know as the AHL team will end up going out west.”

That is the bad news, but here is the good news for hockey fans: Young has already cut a deal to bring the Bakersfield Condors to Norfolk. The Condors are a minor league team owned by the Edmonton Oilers.

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I've been hearing whispers one of the reasons, (besides the Worcester bad attendance in the middle of Bruins country) is that this will ensure San Jose has a hockey team when the parent NHL club move to San Francisco, when the Warriors arena is built and be the San Francisco Sharks. (I've heard previously, rumblings of the Sharks looking to move because of a bad TV deal, but no real agreement on where).

Now, a few years ago, I would have said that the Sharks are never ever moving to SF, but their lease at SAP Center is up, and they've got a bad TV Deal. I'm not saying the Sharks are moving to SF, but a lucrative deal that puts the Giants blocks from the Warriors and Sharks 10-15 blocks away would be tremendous for the city of San Francisco. While it's three different sports and the Sharks would be the only NHL team in San Francisco, I still don't know about being in a city with two other high profile teams and sharing a facility with at least one tenant.

However with the 49ers down the road from the Shark Tank, and the A's contemplating moving to San Jose, it's hard to imagine the Sharks just packing up and moving north. Because then you have a NHL-ready building either housing a AHL minor league team or no hockey at all just sitting there across from Diridon Station.

Capacity for Warriors new arena which I'm going to call Mission Bay Coliseum is estimated to be 18,000. Compare this to SAP Center at San Jose (17,562) and Oracle Arena (19,596).

Anyway, just dropping some NHL "gossip"...

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Now it became official. Norfolk is going to California but they're getting Bakersfield & returning to the ECHL.

http://wavy.com/2015/01/23/norfolk-admirals-owner-forced-to-sell-team/

After weeks of rumors regarding the future of the Norfolks American Hockey League franchise, Norfolk Admirals owner Ken Young confirmed to WAVY Sports Director Bruce Rader that he is being forced to sell the team to the Anaheim Ducks.

It is not a happy week for Young, who 11 years ago was considered the savior of Hampton Roads hockey when he bought the AHL Admirals, keeping them in Norfolk. NHL owners, have decided they want their top minor league teams closer to home, so this weekend the forced sale will be announced. Young said the Anaheim Ducks will move the franchise to California at the end of this season.

We didnt have any choice, Young said. It was either keep a team that would not have an affiliation, so we would not have dates or have to sell to Anaheim, which if the Pacific division gets voted on by the American Hockey League this weekend then what we know as the AHL team will end up going out west.

That is the bad news, but here is the good news for hockey fans: Young has already cut a deal to bring the Bakersfield Condors to Norfolk. The Condors are a minor league team owned by the Edmonton Oilers.

Where are you reading that the Admirals are going to Bakersfield? There's nothing supporting that in your link and the strong rumors were SD, not Bakersfield. Bakersfield was going to Edmonton.

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I'd be very happy with the Sharks moving downtown and leaving the Shark Tank to a minor-league team. It's getting old, and relative to its contemporaries in Chicago, Anaheim, and St. Louis, I wouldn't exactly say it was built to last. I haven't seen anything that suggests that the new Warriors arena will accommodate a full hockey bowl, though. Have you? I was afraid it was going to be basketball-specific.

bosrs, I think he's saying that the Bakersfield ECHL team, having been evicted by Edmonton's AHL affiliate, will move to Norfolk to replace Anaheim's AHL affiliate, which is moving to San Diego. Gotta love trans-continental bi-league musical chairs!

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I've been hearing whispers one of the reasons, (besides the Worcester bad attendance in the middle of Bruins country) is that this will ensure San Jose has a hockey team when the parent NHL club move to San Francisco, when the Warriors arena is built and be the San Francisco Sharks. (I've heard previously, rumblings of the Sharks looking to move because of a bad TV deal, but no real agreement on where).

Now, a few years ago, I would have said that the Sharks are never ever moving to SF, but their lease at SAP Center is up, and they've got a bad TV Deal. I'm not saying the Sharks are moving to SF, but a lucrative deal that puts the Giants blocks from the Warriors and Sharks 10-15 blocks away would be tremendous for the city of San Francisco. While it's three different sports and the Sharks would be the only NHL team in San Francisco, I still don't know about being in a city with two other high profile teams and sharing a facility with at least one tenant.

However with the 49ers down the road from the Shark Tank, and the A's contemplating moving to San Jose, it's hard to imagine the Sharks just packing up and moving north. Because then you have a NHL-ready building either housing a AHL minor league team or no hockey at all just sitting there across from Diridon Station.

Capacity for Warriors new arena which I'm going to call Mission Bay Coliseum is estimated to be 18,000. Compare this to SAP Center at San Jose (17,562) and Oracle Arena (19,596).

Anyway, just dropping some NHL "gossip"...

Only issue, SF Arena isn't planned to be hockey ready. It would be another Brooklyn which obviously isn't ideal for one of the leagues most popular teams. Particularly if you're moving them 50 miles from the heart of their fanbase and corporate base to another metro area.

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one of the leagues most popular teams.

Are there charities that benefit from your generosity?

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one of the leagues most popular teams.

Are there charities that benefit from your generosity?
Indeed. But I wasn't being generous. Until this season the Sharks sold out more than most teams.

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Now it became official. Norfolk is going to California but they're getting Bakersfield & returning to the ECHL.

http://wavy.com/2015/01/23/norfolk-admirals-owner-forced-to-sell-team/

After weeks of rumors regarding the future of the Norfolks American Hockey League franchise, Norfolk Admirals owner Ken Young confirmed to WAVY Sports Director Bruce Rader that he is being forced to sell the team to the Anaheim Ducks.

It is not a happy week for Young, who 11 years ago was considered the savior of Hampton Roads hockey when he bought the AHL Admirals, keeping them in Norfolk. NHL owners, have decided they want their top minor league teams closer to home, so this weekend the forced sale will be announced. Young said the Anaheim Ducks will move the franchise to California at the end of this season.

We didnt have any choice, Young said. It was either keep a team that would not have an affiliation, so we would not have dates or have to sell to Anaheim, which if the Pacific division gets voted on by the American Hockey League this weekend then what we know as the AHL team will end up going out west.

That is the bad news, but here is the good news for hockey fans: Young has already cut a deal to bring the Bakersfield Condors to Norfolk. The Condors are a minor league team owned by the Edmonton Oilers.

Where are you reading that the Admirals are going to Bakersfield? There's nothing supporting that in your link and the strong rumors were SD, not Bakersfield. Bakersfield was going to Edmonton.

No, the story is Bakersfield is going to Norfolk. While Norfolk is going to San Diego.

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