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Former Central Hockey League franchises, the Arizona Sundogs and Denver Cutthroats, which are respectively owned by the Arizona Coyotes and the Colorado Avalanche

lolwut? No... No, they're not owned by the Coyotes and Avs. Those franchises are dead and were never owned by the NHL teams in the area.

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Actually, how are the Avs going to get their hands on an AHL team too, because the Cavs aren't selling.

Apparently, the owner of the Norfolk Admirals was told in no uncertain terms that if he didn't sell his franchise to the Ducks, they'd terminate their affiliation, and no one else would come to replace them. So, that's how.

Norfolk was unwilling to pay the full salary and benefits of an entire AHL team, especially because it needs to draw for meal ticket purposes, the Cavs may be, as all they need is a date filler. There's nothing in the AHL bylaws forbidding existing teams from going independent.

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Former Central Hockey League franchises, the Arizona Sundogs and Denver Cutthroats, which are respectively owned by the Arizona Coyotes and the Colorado Avalanche

lolwut? No... No, they're not owned by the Coyotes and Avs. Those franchises are dead and were never owned by the NHL teams in the area.

Sun Dogs are owned by this guy: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/arizona-sundogs--owner--gm-will-be-buried-alive-to-sell-season-tickets-163041733.html

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Have there been any updates on what will happen to the Colorado Eagles or who will be the new Islanders ECHL affiliate? What about the Las Vegas Wranglers' return from hiatus?

News just came out that Las Vegas is pulling the plug.

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San Jose should put their team in Oakland. Its just up the street and it spreads hockey around the San Fransisco Bay rather than having both teams (the NHL and AHL) in the same city.

If they are going to have the team play in San Jose I hope they call them the San Jose Blades. I know its a lame name but that was the winning entry in the name the team contest back in 1990. Luckily the Gunds went with the runner up name of Sharks instead but it would be kinda cool if they honored that contest.

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I honestly don't see how the Alaska Aces are going to carry on much longer. Perhaps they should eye moving to the WHL and reforming their whole franchise. Wow, ECHL just got their division structure right. Now they will go to six divisions.

Quite simple actually: they fly everywhere. They already fly to places like Colorado, Idaho, and Utah, now they just won't be flying into California and will add trips to Rapid City.

Former Central Hockey League franchises, the Arizona Sundogs and Denver Cutthroats, which are respectively owned by the Arizona Coyotes and the Colorado Avalanche

lolwut? No... No, they're not owned by the Coyotes and Avs. Those franchises are dead and were never owned by the NHL teams in the area.

Sun Dogs are owned by this guy: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/arizona-sundogs--owner--gm-will-be-buried-alive-to-sell-season-tickets-163041733.html

No, they're not. That franchise is dead. They didn't make the move from the WPHL dba CHL to the ECHL and the WPHL dba CHL is now dead. Same with Denver.

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This was posted over on a different website, but it's very interesting. Particularly as a response to the knee jerk reaction some on the east coast have had that this is just another hockey sunshine state move that is doomed to fail...

The average attendances for the ‘14-’15 season thus far are listed below for the 8 cities involved in this move that currently have teams.

ECHL Ontario 7,235
AHL Manchester 5,571
ECHL Bakersfield 4,648
AHL Norfolk 4,553
ECHL Stockton 4,438
AHL Adirondack 3,586
AHL Oklahoma City 3,443
AHL Worcester 3,355

As you can see, the west coast cities that are involved support their inferior ECHL teams pretty damned well. Ontario will be an upgrade crowd wise over the leading AHL team Manchester. Stockton is almost 1,000 more fans a game than Glen Falls. And Bakersfield is even more compared to OKC. Of course San Jose and San Diego don’t currently have minor league teams so they are wild cards but the last ECHL iteration of the San Diego Gulls averaged 5,841 in their final season (‘05-’06) and were never lower than 4,591 in their first and lowest attended year in the old WCHL in 1995. So at worst they’d be a push compared to Norfolk and San Diego would likely also be an improvement seeing as the former WCHL and the current ECHL are lower level league than AHL.

Seems this move makes sense not just from a proximity standpoint, but also from a fan and fanbase building standpoint as well. Both local AHL fan base and regional NHL fan base in the case of the Sharks, Ducks and Kings.

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As long as Alaska keeps subsidizing travel for other teams, I think they'll be fine. You do realize this organization has been around for decades and started out in the semi-pro Pacific Southwest Hockey League with teams in Calfornia and Nevada, right? They've been doing this for over 25 years now,

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"You do realize" might be my least favorite sequence of words in the entire English language. "You do realize that what you said is wrong, right?" No, I f-cking don't; what do you think I do, sit around trying to be willfully wrong about things? Ugh. There should be a humorous word filter here to make it go away.

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...Yeah but how long is it before all the other Western teams say no to Alaska travel. Poor team is getting axed sooner or later.

Alaska pays for teams to fly out there and play series. The logistics will work.

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Well, that's good then. ...so here is how the ECHL looks so far...

Cincinnati (Panthers, Predators)

Elmira (Sabres)

Manchester (Kings)

Reading (Flyers)

Toledo (Red Wings)

Wheeling (Penguins, Canadiens) - CANADIENS SHOULD GO WITH BRAMPTON

Florida (Hurricanes, Lightning)

Greenville (Rangers)

Gwinnett (Coyotes)

Norfolk - HURRICANES?

Orlando (Maple Leafs)

South Carolina (Capitals, Bruins) BRUINS WANT SOMETHING NORTH, SO CAPITALS SHOULD STAY

Brampton (Independent)

Evansville (Senators)

Ft. Wayne (Avalanche)

Indy (Blackhawks)

Kalamazoo (Blue Jackets, Canucks) CANUCKS SHOULD GO WEST

Allen (Sharks)

Missouri (Independent)

Quad City (Wild)

Tulsa (Independent)

Wichita (Independent)

Alaska (Blues)

Colorado (Flames)

Idaho (Stars)

Rapid City (Independent)

Utah (Ducks)

.... who in the hell knows how the realignment will go. Looks like a lot of teams will change affiliations as well. Rumor has it the Cyclones and Predators are going to stick together and the Panthers are parting ways.

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