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You know in the open cup and end of season tournaments in sports, you see the normal teams, then you see those teams. The teams that come from so out of nowhere you wonder how they even got there, and what their league is, then wonder how they beat the teams ahead of them. The teams that make for some weird fixtures, and pull some upsets that make you question how good that team really is. Tell me some of those moments, but one rule, they have to be in a weirdly high position for their status and it must be a Open Cup or the top tier Postseason Tournament(like the US NCAA D1 basketball tournament)

 

Example-France/Division Five|Championnat de France Amateur 2- Groupe H

Union Sportive Granville has made it to the Quarterfinals in the Coupe de France

R7-def Dives(D6) 2-0

R8-def St Nazziare(D6) 2-0

Ro64-def Laval(D2-Ligue 2) 2-1

Ro32-def Sarreguemines(D5-CFA 2) 3-1

Ro16-def Bourg-Peronnas(D2-Ligue 2) ET 1-0

QtrFnl-vs Marseille(D1-Ligue 1) March 3rd

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12 minutes ago, BigRed618 said:

I remember this one team from California, literally called Cal FC, who got pretty far in the US Open Cup a few years back.

 

First, they beat a USL team which was SHOCKING, but then they went on beat the Portland Timbers. There should be a movie made about that team. 

 

 

Also, Eric Wynalda coached Cal FC that year. 

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5 hours ago, Bucfan56 said:

2008 Fresno State Bulldogs baseball. How the hell that team won a College World Series I'll never know. It's equivalent to a 12-14 seed winning the NCAA tournament. 

That same Fresno State baseball team was ranked in the top 25 in that season's preseason poll.  They weren't exactly hiding in the weeds....they just underachieved until the postseason and got hot.

 

The ones that come to mind for me are Florida-Gulf Coast (they made the Sweet 16 a couple years ago), Dallas Baptist (they've made the baseball tournament the last couple few seasons), and Kennesaw State (they made the Super Regionals a couple seasons ago in baseball).  And although I sort of knew about the school, I didn't realize Alabama-Huntsville had a top-division hockey team and won a game or two in the hockey tournament.  And they were the host school for the Frozen Four when that was held in Tampa.  (And speaking of hockey, wasn't there some small school that won the tournament a few years ago?)

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6 minutes ago, HedleyLamarr said:

That same Fresno State baseball team was ranked in the top 25 in that season's preseason poll.  They weren't exactly hiding in the weeds....they just underachieved until the postseason and got hot.

 

The ones that come to mind for me are Florida-Gulf Coast (they made the Sweet 16 a couple years ago), Dallas Baptist (they've made the baseball tournament the last couple few seasons), and Kennesaw State (they made the Super Regionals a couple seasons ago in baseball).  And although I sort of knew about the school, I didn't realize Alabama-Huntsville had a top-division hockey team and won a game or two in the hockey tournament.  And they were the host school for the Frozen Four when that was held in Tampa.  (And speaking of hockey, wasn't there some small school that won the tournament a few years ago?)

 

i believe that was Union College in 2014 Frozen Four.  

 

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1 hour ago, raysox said:

Iowa football was like 6-6 in 2014 and was undefeated until the Big Ten championship game this past season

I get where you're coming from, but no school in a Power 5 conference is an unknown.

 

About the closest thing to this in college football would be like an Appalachian State (although they were still a Div. I-AA powerhouse at the time) or a James Madison when they beat Virginia Tech.  Or maybe "South Florida was once ranked #2 in the nation? In Division I-A?".....

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Here's a fun one:

 

 

Quality Gary Thorne there. Belarus beating Sweden in the quarterfinals of the 2002 Olympic Hockey tournament was probably the biggest Olympic upset since the Miracle on Ice. The Swedes were loaded with NHLers and thumped Canada 5-2 to open the tournament, they'd also go on to win the 2006 gold medal. Belarus lost to both USA and Finland 8-1 and lost to Russia 6-4 in group play. They were outscored 22-6 in 3 games before the knockout stage so there was really no sign that they'd be anything close to a threat to Sweden. 

 

That monumental upset meant Belarus got two cracks at an Olympic medal in hockey, but to drive home how ridiculous it is that they beat Sweden they lost the semifinal to Canada 7-1 and the Bronze medal game against Russia 7-2. 

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3 hours ago, HedleyLamarr said:

That same Fresno State baseball team was ranked in the top 25 in that season's preseason poll.  They weren't exactly hiding in the weeds....they just underachieved until the postseason and got hot.

 

The ones that come to mind for me are Florida-Gulf Coast (they made the Sweet 16 a couple years ago), Dallas Baptist (they've made the baseball tournament the last couple few seasons), and Kennesaw State (they made the Super Regionals a couple seasons ago in baseball).  And although I sort of knew about the school, I didn't realize Alabama-Huntsville had a top-division hockey team and won a game or two in the hockey tournament.  And they were the host school for the Frozen Four when that was held in Tampa.  (And speaking of hockey, wasn't there some small school that won the tournament a few years ago?)

 

Also, George Mason basketball (Final Four, 06?)

 

Dallas Baptist definitely fits because they're a primarily D2 school that competes in D1 for baseball only. They're not "surprising" because they're usually pretty good, but they're definitely "wait, who?" for even most knowledgeable sports fans.

 

There are lots of weird inconsistencies in NCAA's "Division 1/2/3" classification system that, for lots of different reasons, have enabled primarily D2/D3 schools the ability to sponsor a few sports at the D1 level. Football and basketball are excluded, so these often end up being "fringe" sports like hockey, men's volleyball, bowling, etc. Teams that come to mind (that have had some success) are:

 

-a ton of hockey schools (Colorado College, Alaska-Anchorage, Alaska-Fairbanks, Bemidji State, Michigan Tech, Northern Michigan, Lake Superior State, St. Cloud State, RPI, and probably a few more that NCAA hockey fans could point out

-Johns Hopkins lacrosse

-Lewis University (NCAA D1 men's volleyball champions, 2003)

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1 hour ago, sc49erfan15 said:

 

Also, George Mason basketball (Final Four, 06?)

 

Dallas Baptist definitely fits because they're a primarily D2 school that competes in D1 for baseball only. They're not "surprising" because they're usually pretty good, but they're definitely "wait, who?" for even most knowledgeable sports fans.

 

There are lots of weird inconsistencies in NCAA's "Division 1/2/3" classification system that, for lots of different reasons, have enabled primarily D2/D3 schools the ability to sponsor a few sports at the D1 level. Football and basketball are excluded, so these often end up being "fringe" sports like hockey, men's volleyball, bowling, etc. Teams that come to mind (that have had some success) are:

 

-a ton of hockey schools (Colorado College, Alaska-Anchorage, Alaska-Fairbanks, Bemidji State, Michigan Tech, Northern Michigan, Lake Superior State, St. Cloud State, RPI, and probably a few more that NCAA hockey fans could point out

-Johns Hopkins lacrosse

-Lewis University (NCAA D1 men's volleyball champions, 2003)

UMD, and Minnesota State are also a part of that. The U of M is the only university here that is in other D1 sports... 

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20 hours ago, goalieboy82 said:

does the US Open Cup mean anything to the MLS anyway.  i know they shouldn't lose to teams like Cal FC but still does winning the MLS Cup mean more (different case with the FA-Cup i think).  

Like the FA Cup, the winner is guaranteed a spot in a continental tournament, the CONCACAF Champions League. It may be not winning the league, but if you win and don't make the Postseason Final/win the regular season championship, it will get you in the continental cup. It is the oldest active Association Football competition in the US (first run in 1914), and has plenty of prestige.

 

In the US where it is a five tier system with another College system on another plane (5-Most amateur teams, 4 PDL/NPSL-Advanced Amateur, 3 USL-Low Professional, 2 NASL- Professional, 3 MLS-Top Tier Professional, plus the independent NJCAA(JUCO)/NCAADIII, NAIA/NCAADII, NCAADI (each with different conferences of varying skill levels)) It is complicated, and just as annoying figure out, so if Cal FC beat a MLS team, then that is a shock because that is pretty much a Non-League team from a level below the Conference National, or maybe the Conference level in general beating a team in Premiership

 

By the way there is no D2 in Hockey, only D3 and D1, so the D2 hockey schools will play in D1 or D3 for hockey due to that rule

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On 2/24/2016 at 9:49 AM, RandomEuro-AmericanFan said:

Like the FA Cup, the winner is guaranteed a spot in a continental tournament, the CONCACAF Champions League. It may be not winning the league, but if you win and don't make the Postseason Final/win the regular season championship, it will get you in the continental cup. It is the oldest active Association Football competition in the US (first run in 1914), and has plenty of prestige.

 

In the US where it is a five tier system with another College system on another plane (5-Most amateur teams, 4 PDL/NPSL-Advanced Amateur, 3 USL-Low Professional, 2 NASL- Professional, 3 MLS-Top Tier Professional, plus the independent NJCAA(JUCO)/NCAADIII, NAIA/NCAADII, NCAADI (each with different conferences of varying skill levels)) It is complicated, and just as annoying figure out, so if Cal FC beat a MLS team, then that is a shock because that is pretty much a Non-League team from a level below the Conference National, or maybe the Conference level in general beating a team in Premiership

 

By the way there is no D2 in Hockey, only D3 and D1, so the D2 hockey schools will play in D1 or D3 for hockey due to that rule

Yes, but usually D2 schools aren't big enough, or good enough to play D1. It's pretty difficult to jump UP to a higher level of hockey...

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