The_Admiral Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I'm guessing the Canadiens and Senators voted no, thereby hating Canada, because the Nordiques would have 90% to 100% of the same television market (Ontario as far west as Belleville, Quebec, Maritimes). The value of the Nordiques would be in their television deal and how many eyeballs they would reach; those teams wouldn't want those eyeballs on TVA instead of RDS/TSN/SNE. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 45 minutes ago, habsfan1 said: Does it ever even snow in Las Vegas? It doesn't even really snow in Vancouver. But as the game is not played outdoors, I don't see the relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Also, looking forward to seeing which team is worse, the 17/18 Canucks or LV Black Knights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 So they don't play much shiny in BC? Without playing shiny, life must get dull. That was another OITGDNHL moment. Imagine the owner of a baseball expansion team saying "this means a lot because I used to play throw with my dad." You might as well open with "thank you, people of Earth." ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustDevil61 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, Corvus said: Also, looking forward to seeing which team is worse, the 17/18 Canucks or LV Black Knights. Probably Canucks. But hey, Las Vegas has lottery for the first 4 years to fall back on because Sunbelt Shiny. http://i.imgur.com/Pyc5qRH.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/RDXvxFE.gif LED Sig Credits to packerfan21396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYUNDERDOGS Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 On May 2, 2016 at 8:07 PM, McCarthy said: Jess Puljujarvi has one of the largest mouths I've ever seen. Reminds me of this other face Drive for five..... Shots to my head With the Seats burning at Citi ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 40 minutes ago, the admiral said: They get automatic lottery picks regardless of finish for four years. The league is letting Las Vegas build a team at a faster pace than Nashville/Atlanta/Minnesota/Columbus because the advances in technology mean more people are watching and more closely (this is actually 100% true). So the implication here is that the team should make the playoffs within its first four seasons but also draft as if missing them. I don't think that's fair, but neither is taking someone's money for an expansion you never intended to give them, so who can say? I didn't see that. It's offensive on a theoretical level, but does it really matter if they end up with a 1% chance in the lottery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Does it matter to the teams who drop in the draft order because a team scheduled to draft at, let's say #20 gets to jump to #15? Probably a little. I agree that it's still an issue more of perception than reality, the perception being that the NHL will do anything to strengthen warm-weather teams, but if it's practically inconsequential, why do it? ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chcarlson23 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, NYUNDERDOGS said: Reminds me of this other face Leave. Go AWAY. Never come back... How is this relevant to the NHL thread??? "And those who know Your Name put their trust in You, for You, O Lord, have not forsaken those who seek You." Psalms 9:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I already like him more than you. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerGuyJordan Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 42 minutes ago, KittSmith_95 said: But why does Bettman hate Canada? There's the real question I have. He doesn't hate Canada, the other Canadian markets aren't fighting for it and the board LITERALLY hired him to expand the game into new markets. Quebec doesn't fit that. I'm not a huge Bettman fan, but this expansion process and the decision to not do Quebec has more to do with the Board of governors than the Commissioner. Thunder Bay Lynx - International Hockey Association (2 seasons, 2017-18, 2019-20, 2018 Xtreme Cup Champions) | Houston Armadillos - Major League Hockey (2 seasons, 2016-18) | Minnesota Muskies - North American Basketball Association (1 season, 2017-2018) | Louisville Thoroughbreds - United League of Baseball (1 season, 2017, 2017 United Cup Champions) | Las Vegas Thunderbirds - International Basketball League (1 season, 2016-17, 2017 Champions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, the admiral said: Does it matter to the teams who drop in the draft order because a team scheduled to draft at, let's say #20 gets to jump to #15? Probably a little. I agree that it's still an issue more of perception than reality, the perception being that the NHL will do anything to strengthen warm-weather teams, but if it's practically inconsequential, why do it? I don't know... maybe the NHL likes to look busy. Why did they bother to raise the odds for the 14th team from .5% to 1%? The best kind of problem to solve is one that never existed in the first place. You can't be proven ineffective later. I don't really think Vegas is making the playoffs for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 A question I would have liked a journalist to ask today (the Montreal Journal writer, bless his heart, was really struggling with his English) was whether deferral of Quebec City's bid rather than rejection meant that the price of expansion the parties agreed to would also be deferred. That really would have made it Gary Bettman Bobblehead Night. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYUNDERDOGS Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 58 minutes ago, chcarlson23 said: Leave. Go AWAY. Never come back... How is this relevant to the NHL thread??? We have gone out of the NHL topic before.... Drive for five..... Shots to my head With the Seats burning at Citi ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalieboy82 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 2 hours ago, habsfan1 said: Does it ever even snow in Las Vegas? it rain's more there. so long and thanks for all the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chcarlson23 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 39 minutes ago, NYUNDERDOGS said: We have gone out of the NHL topic before.... Maybe on slow NHL-news days... "And those who know Your Name put their trust in You, for You, O Lord, have not forsaken those who seek You." Psalms 9:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYUNDERDOGS Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, chcarlson23 said: Maybe on slow NHL-news days... Meh I don't really see any news right now Drive for five..... Shots to my head With the Seats burning at Citi ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcake Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I'm just gonna come out and say it: I'm excited for this expansion. Do I think it will work? Not necessarily. But expansion drafts have always intrigued me, and with the league having some truly stacked rosters, LV won't be total crud their first season. I'm substantially less excited about it, though, knowing that the NHL will likely do everyone in its power now to keep Quebec from getting a team via expansion. Quebec City is a great hockey town and it has great fans too. And there's been a lot of talk about Carolina relocating, but I have a friend who's a major Canes fan, so I don't really want to see that happen either. Oh well. Guess we've gotta take what we've got for right now. Prediciton: LV will be a modest success. It will never be a great hockey town, but it won't be a Coyotes-level failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001mark Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 4 hours ago, AstroBull21 said: Any takers on how soon the Canes relocate to Quebec? 2019 @2001mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJourney Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Secret backroom deal with Quebec to get them the Canes and like admiral said wait around for Seattle to get their ship righted or possibly Houston if Les Alexander suddenly wakes up and likes hockey again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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