Luigi74 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, McCall said: That reminds me; my simplest realignment plan, involving no expansion or relocation. Just swap Colorado and Seattle. NATIONAL LEAGUE WEST CENTRAL EAST Arizona Diamondbacks Chicago Cubs Atlanta Braves Los Angeles Dodgers Cincinnati Reds Miami Marlins San Diego Padres Milwaukee Brewers New York Mets San Francisco Giants Pittsburgh Pirates Philadelphia Phillies Seattle Mariners St. Louis Cardinals Washington Nationals AMERICAN LEAGUE WEST CENTRAL EAST Colorado Rockies Chicago White Sox Baltimore Orioles Houston Astros Cleveland Indians Boston Red Sox Los Angeles Angels Detroit Tigers New York Yankees Oakland Athletics Kansas City Royals Tampa Bay Rays Texas Rangers Minnesota Twins Toronto Blue Jays Along with moving the Pirates to the NL East and Atlanta to the NL Central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Luigi74 said: Along with moving the Pirates to the NL East and Atlanta to the NL Central. No. Atlanta is a geographically close opponent to Miami, so that helps with some reduction of distance. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 On 8/23/2022 at 11:05 PM, JerseyJimmy said: major league baseball expands to 32 teams and splits each league into four divisions blah blah everyone's done this let's go NL EAST -Montreal Expos -New York Mets -Philadelphia Phillies -Pittsburgh Pirates NL NORTH -Chicago Cubs -Colorado Rockies -Milwaukee Brewers -St. Louis Cardinals NL SOUTH -Atlanta Braves -Cincinnati Reds -Miami Marlins -Washington Nationals NL WEST -Arizona Diamondbacks -Los Angeles Dodgers -San Diego Padres -San Francisco Giants AL EAST -Baltimore Orioles -Boston Red Sox -New York Yankees -Toronto Blue Jays AL NORTH -Chicago White Sox -Cleveland Guardians -Detroit Tigers -Minnesota Twins AL SOUTH -Charlotte Monarchs OR Nashville Stars -Houston Astros -Tampa Bay Rays -Texas Rangers AL WEST -Kansas City Royals -Las Vegas Athletics -Los Angeles Angels -Seattle Mariners The alignment that I favour is similar to yours, except I retain the name Central Division. The distribution of teams in the American League is exactly the same; and in the National League I have Cincinnati in the Central and Colorado in the South. AL NL EAST: Balt Bos NY Tor EAST: Mon NY Pha Pitt SOUTH: Cha Hou TB Tex SOUTH: Atl Col Mia Wash CENTRAL: Chi Cle Det Min CENTRAL: Chi Cin Mil StL WEST: KC LA Oak Sea WEST: Ariz LA SD SF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: The alignment that I favour is similar to yours, except I retain the name Central Division. The distribution of teams in the American League is exactly the same; and in the National League I have Cincinnati in the Central and Colorado in the South. AL NL EAST: Balt Bos NY Tor EAST: Mon NY Pha Pitt SOUTH: Cha Hou TB Tex SOUTH: Atl Col Mia Wash CENTRAL: Chi Cle Det Min CENTRAL: Chi Cin Mil StL WEST: KC LA Oak Sea WEST: Ariz LA SD SF Colorado in the south makes that division spread across 3 time zones. Not ideal for divisional TV matchups. I know its not traditional, but at least with Colorado in the central and Cincinnati in the South it would have the divisions either in the same time zone, or one away in Colorado's case. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: The alignment that I favour is similar to yours, except I retain the name Central Division. The distribution of teams in the American League is exactly the same; and in the National League I have Cincinnati in the Central and Colorado in the South. AL NL EAST: Balt Bos NY Tor EAST: Mon NY Pha Pitt SOUTH: Cha Hou TB Tex SOUTH: Atl Col Mia Wash CENTRAL: Chi Cle Det Min CENTRAL: Chi Cin Mil StL WEST: KC LA Oak Sea WEST: Ariz LA SD SF Colorado in the South with Washington, Atlanta and Miami makes no geographical sense whatsoever. I honestly want to know what your rationale is for this alignment. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, McCall said: Colorado in the South with Washington, Atlanta and Miami makes no geographical sense whatsoever. I honestly want to know what your rationale is for this alignment. Denver is in the Southwest; Atlanta and Miami are in the Southeast. Thus all three easily qualify for the Southern Division. Washington is borderline; that city belongs either to the Northeast region or to the Mid-Atlantic region. But it borders Virginia; so it is almost in the South. I would be a bit uncomfortable switching Colorado and Cincinnati, as TBGKon suggests, considering that Cincinnati is clearly part of the Midwest. Alas, there is no perfect alignment. TBGKon points out that my Southern Division would stretch over three time zones; and this is a reasonable critique. But what is not reasonable is to doubt that the cities of Denver, Atlanta, and Miami make geographical sense in a division called "South", and also that Washington comes close enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: Denver is in the Southwest; Atlanta and Miami are in the Southeast. Thus all three easily qualify for the Southern Division. Washington is borderline; that city belongs either to the Northeast region or to the Mid-Atlantic region. But it borders Virginia; so it is almost in the South. I would be a bit uncomfortable switching Colorado and Cincinnati, as TBGKon suggests, considering that Cincinnati is clearly part of the Midwest. Alas, there is no perfect alignment. TBGKon points out that my Southern Division would stretch over three time zones; and this is a reasonable critique. But what is not reasonable is to doubt that the cities of Denver, Atlanta, and Miami make geographical sense in a division called "South", and also that Washington comes close enough. Oh, dear Lord. Division names are subjective terms used to label a group of geographically aligned teams, even if not precisely accurate. This is why in the NHL you have or had Vegas and Arizona in the Pacific Division even though neither one borders the Pacific Ocean. Same with Phoenix in the NBA. Just because one team is in the south region of one part of the country, doesn't mean it fits into a south division situated on the other side of the country. The main problem here, like with many, is people only aligning based on linear geography when a more accurate tool is radial geography. You essentially take a circle to the map of teams and group them as best as possible based on how they fall within that circle. 4 Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcos Flamengo Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 My Major League Baseball expansion/relocation project AMERICAN LEAGUE AL East: Baltimore Orioles, Boston Red Sox, Carolina Pilots, New York Yankees, Tampa Bay Rays, Toronto Blue Jays AL Central: Chicago White Sox, Cleveland Indians, Detroit Tigers, Kansas City Royals, Minnesota Twins, Oklahoma City Bison AL West: Anaheim Angels, Colorado Rockies, Houston Astros, Oakland Athletics, Texas Rangers, Vegas Supernovas NATIONAL LEAGUE NL East: Atlanta Braves, Miami Marlins, Montreal Expos, New York Mets, Philadelphia Phillies, Washington Nationals NL Central: Chicago Cubs, Cincinnati Reds, Milwaukee Brewers, Nashville Stars, Pittsburgh Pirates, St. Louis Cardinals NL West: Arizona Diamondbacks, Los Angeles Dodgers, Sacramento Solons, San Diego Padres, San Francisco Giants, Seattle Mariners Expansion teams are in bold Relocation teams are in italic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Marcos Flamengo said: My Major League Baseball expansion/relocation project AMERICAN LEAGUE AL East: Baltimore Orioles, Boston Red Sox, Carolina Pilots, New York Yankees, Tampa Bay Rays, Toronto Blue Jays AL Central: Cleveland Indians, Detroit Tigers, Indianapolis White Sox, Kansas City Royals, Minnesota Twins, Oklahoma City Bison AL West: Colorado Rockies, Hawaii Angels, Houston Astros, Oakland Athletics, Texas Rangers, Vegas Supernovas NATIONAL LEAGUE NL East: Atlanta Braves, Miami Marlins, Montreal Expos, Ottawa Mets, Philadelphia Phillies, Washington Nationals NL Central: Chicago Cubs, Cincinnati Reds, Milwaukee Brewers, Nashville Stars, Pittsburgh Pirates, St. Louis Cardinals NL West: Arizona Diamondbacks, Los Angeles Dodgers, Sacramento Solons, San Diego Padres, San Francisco Giants, Seattle Mariners Expansion teams are in bold Relocation teams are in italic The Ottawa Mets? Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcos Flamengo Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 On 8/28/2022 at 11:41 AM, McCall said: The Ottawa Mets? I fixed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueYankee26 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Alright I have not done these in a while, especially a soccer one but here goes United States Soccer Association (USSA) Tier 1 Atlanta Buzzards Boston Mariners Charlotte Prowlers Chicago Red Devils Cleveland Cardinals Dallas Buffaloes Detroit Machine Houston Pelicans Indianapolis Blazers Los Angeles Guerreros Miami Caimans Milwaukee Blues Nashville Noise New Jersey Liberty New York Eagles (Queens) Orlando Mages Philadelphia Swans San Francisco Golden Gaters St. Louis Brewers Tampa Bay Cannoneers Tier 2 Alaska Polar Bears Anaheim Orange Baltimore Magpies Buffalo Tigers El Paso Miners Des Moines Rams Duluth Wolfpack Green Bay Milkmen Hartford Whales Kansas City Wranglers Louisville Reds Minnesota Grizzlies New Orleans Hoodoo New York Dragons (Staten Island) Oakland Señors Portland Evergreens San Antonio Fiesta San Diego Destroyers Tidewater Clippers Washington Patriots Tier 3 Albuquerque Sol Arizona Phoenixes Austin Arrows Boston Colonials Brooklyn Wanderers Bronx Wildcats Chicago Serbian Eagles Chicago Yaks Denver Rough Riders Eugene Mallards Fort Lauderdale Gators Jacksonville Panthers Las Vegas Vulcans Los Angeles Astros Los Angeles Pioneers Memphis Bulldogs Miami Magic New Jersey Blue Jays New York Mammoths (Manhattan) Philadelphia Independence Pittsburgh Falcons Providence Knights Raleigh Cheetahs Richmond Rebels Rochester Rocs Santa Cruz Breakers Seattle Ospreys Spokane Mountain Lions Springfield Rovers (Springfield, IL) Syracuse Sicilianos Utah Wasps 1 Quote trueyankee26.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyMcFlyKavanaugh Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 On 8/23/2022 at 11:05 PM, JerseyJimmy said: major league baseball expands to 32 teams and splits each league into four divisions blah blah everyone's done this let's go NL EAST -Montreal Expos -New York Mets -Philadelphia Phillies -Pittsburgh Pirates NL NORTH -Chicago Cubs -Colorado Rockies -Milwaukee Brewers -St. Louis Cardinals NL SOUTH -Atlanta Braves -Cincinnati Reds -Miami Marlins -Washington Nationals NL WEST -Arizona Diamondbacks -Los Angeles Dodgers -San Diego Padres -San Francisco Giants AL EAST -Baltimore Orioles -Boston Red Sox -New York Yankees -Toronto Blue Jays AL NORTH -Chicago White Sox -Cleveland Guardians -Detroit Tigers -Minnesota Twins AL SOUTH -Charlotte Monarchs OR Nashville Stars -Houston Astros -Tampa Bay Rays -Texas Rangers AL WEST -Kansas City Royals -Las Vegas Athletics -Los Angeles Angels -Seattle Mariners Good plan. Here's a tweak to the AL. If the A's get their Howard Terminal ballpark and the Rays move to Vegas, this would be the result (going with Nashville as the new club): With the new interleague scheme arriving next year, a post-expansion 162-game season could be: 39 in-division games (13 per 3 rivals), 74 intra-league (6-7 games against 12 league rivals) and 49 interleague (4 vs. "annual rival" + (3 x 15)). Some "annual rivalries" would change: Blue Jays-Expos, Red Sox-Phillies, Stars-Braves, Rangers-Rockies, Astros-Marlins and Rays-D'backs (the '98 clubs!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcos Flamengo Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 This would be my NASCAR Cup Series teams for 2023. I would include Dodge as a new manufacturer. CHEVROLET CAMARO Beard Motorsports: 62. Austin Hill (part-time) Hendrick Motorsports: 5. Kyle Larson; 9. Chase Elliott; 24. William Byron; 25. Miguel Paludo (part-time); 48. Alex Bowman JR Motorsports: 88. Josh Berry (part-time) JTG Daugherty Racing: 47. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Kaulig Racing: 16. A.J. Allmendinger; 31. Justin Haley Petty GMS Motorsports: 42. Noah Gragson, 43. Erik Jones; 44. Jimmie Johnson (part-time) Richard Childress Racing: 3. Austin Dillon, 8. Kyle Busch; 29. Sheldon Creed; 33. Jeffrey Earnhardt (part-time) Spire Motorsports: 7. Corey LaJoie; 77. Ty Dillon Trackhouse Racing Team: 1. Ross Chastain; 91. Kimi Raikkönen (part-time); 99. Daniel Suárez FORD MUSTANG Front Row Motorsports: 34. Michael McDowell; 36. Zane Smith; 38. Todd Gilliland Live Fast Motorsports: 78. B.J. McLeod, Andy Lally, Josh Williams, Scott Heckert, Kyle Tilley RFK Racing: 6. Brad Keselowski; 17. Chris Buescher, Zane Smith; 97. Carlos Huertas Rick Ware Racing: 15. David Ragan, Garrett Smithley, Joey Hand, J.J. Yeley, Ryan Preece, Parker Kligerman; 51. Cody Ware, J.J. Yeley Stewart-Haas Racing: 4. Kevin Harvick; 10. Aric Almirola; 14. Chase Briscoe; 41. Ryan Preece Team Penske: 02. Hailie Deegan; 2. Austin Cindric; 12. Ryan Blaney; 22. Joey Logano Wood Brothers Racing: 21. Harrison Burton TOYOTA CAMRY 23XI Racing: 23. Bubba Wallace; 45. Tyler Reddick Andretti Autosport: 28. Ryan Truex; 98. Marco Andretti Chip Ganassi Racing: 39. Natalie Decker; 40. John Hunter Nemechek Joe Gibbs Racing: 11. Denny Hamlin; 18. Martin Truex Jr.; 19. S; 20. Christopher Bell; 54. Ty Gibbs ThorSport Racing: 13. Ben Rhodes; 87. Ty Majeski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcos Flamengo Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 This would be my Formula One World Championship entries for 2025. Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen: Valtteri Bottas (#77), Carlos Muñoz (#98) Amazon Peugeot F1 Team: Ryan Briscoe (#48), Julián Leal (#94) Aston Martin Aramco Cogniziani F1 Team: Fernando Alonso (#14), Lance Stroll (#18) BWT Alpine F1 Team: Esteban Ocon (#31), Niko Kari (#56) Chip Ganassi Racing F1 Team: Roberto Merhi (#1), Sérgio Sette Câmara (#42) Haas F1 Team: Kevin Magnussen (#20), Pietro Fittipaldi (#51) Hendrick F1 Team: Marvin Kirchhöfer (#5), Kevin Ceccon (#24) Hisense Trackhouse Racing Team: Stéphane Richelmi (#91), Daniel de Jong (#99) Honda Racing F1 Team: Niko Kari (#6), Alessio Lorandi (#45) Joe Gibbs Racing F1 Team: Antonio Giovinazzi (#54), Gustav Malja (#81) McLaren F1 Team: Lando Norris (#4), Oscar Piastri (#81) Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team: Ryan Tveter (#47), George Russell (#63) Meyer Shank F1 Team: Simon Trummer (#34), Alex Lynn (#52) Oracle Red Bull Racing: Sergio Pérez (#11), Max Verstappen (#33) Petty GMS F1 Team: Johnny Cecotto Jr. (#23), Cameron Das (#43) Scuderia AlphaTauri: Pierre Gasly (#10), Juri Vips (#29) Scuderia Ferrari Charles LeClerc (#16), Carlos Sainz Jr. (#55) Team Penske: Jake Hughes (#2), Ryan Norman (#22) Toyota Gazoo Racing F1 Team: Rafaelle Marciello (#7), Tadasuke Makino (#38) Williams Racing: Alexander Albon (#23), Marino Sato (#32) REMINDER: The start of every F1 race would be in NASCAR-style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlog3000 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I know this is pointless, but where can I find a sub-forum or a sub-topic that can be talked about conference realignment (whether the 3 divisions in the NCAA, the NAIA, the NJCAA, the NCCAA, the USCAA, etc.)? It's all I ask. Please and thanks in advance. Quote Florida State Seminoles fan for life (mostly on football, basketball and baseball)! 2011-12 ACC men's basketball conference tournament champions; 2012, 2013 & 2014 ACC football Atlantic Division champions; 2012, 2013 & 2014 ACC football regular season champions; 2012, 2013 & 2014 ACC football conference bowl tournament champions; 2014 NCAA D-I FBS BCS national champions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 On 9/24/2022 at 1:22 AM, jlog3000 said: I know this is pointless, but where can I find a sub-forum or a sub-topic that can be talked about conference realignment (whether the 3 divisions in the NCAA, the NAIA, the NJCAA, the NCCAA, the USCAA, etc.)? It's all I ask. Please and thanks in advance. This is the thread the news and discussion is occurring in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlog3000 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Does it also include other college athletics associations lower than the NCAA D-I (FBS, FCS or non-football alike)? If so, thanks. Quote Florida State Seminoles fan for life (mostly on football, basketball and baseball)! 2011-12 ACC men's basketball conference tournament champions; 2012, 2013 & 2014 ACC football Atlantic Division champions; 2012, 2013 & 2014 ACC football regular season champions; 2012, 2013 & 2014 ACC football conference bowl tournament champions; 2014 NCAA D-I FBS BCS national champions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 9/25/2022 at 6:55 AM, jlog3000 said: Does it also include other college athletics associations lower than the NCAA D-I (FBS, FCS or non-football alike)? If so, thanks. I mean they just talked about the D2 team moving up. Just like above. It includes all realignment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastBias Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Until this past summer, my dream Pac-14 was as follows... Arizona Arizona State BYU California Colorado Colorado State Oregon Oregon State Stanford UCLA USC Utah Washington Washington State BYU was the last remaining G5 football program in the West that could actually be a successful P5 program. BYU has a massive fanbase, a lot of money, a stadium that would be the 4th largest in the Pac-14, and the historical success/brand (past National Championship & Heisman) needed to grab television attention. The addition of BYU would also make one of the countries fiercest rivalries, the Holy War with Utah, a Pac-14 conference game now played during rivalry week instead of early in the year. BYU though was never a real possibility due to its religious affiliation, strict student honor code, and conservative politics that clash heavily with the ideology of the rest of the conference. However, I think these vast idealogical differences would have made for must see games which was already evident with many of BYU's past games vs Pac-12 opponents. Colorado State would have been a massive gamble for the Pac-14. They are not a historically great football program nor do they have a massive fanbase like BYU. CSU certainly does not bring eye balls to the conference. They do though fit in very well culturally and academically with the rest of the conference (enrollment, research, academic rankings, etc.), especially with the other ag schools, Washington State and Oregon State. The real hope in adding them would be to light a fire underneath Colorado's ass. Colorado has no real rivals in the Pac-12 right now and adding their little brother who have actually invested quite a lot in football the past decade (new stadium and facilities but they just can't hire an actually decent head coach) would force CU to care about football or risk falling behind to CSU. Jim McElwain also proved recently that CSU can be a successful football program. Hopefully with both major state schools in Colorado now in a P5 conference together, the state would begin to actually care about college football more too. The final part of the new Pac-14 would have be that EVERY school would play their in state rival on campus during rivalry week. This means no neutral site games in Denver for CSU-CU and that Cal-Stanford and USC-UCLA play every rivalry weekend, no more catering to Notre Dame letting them end every season in California then go straight into recruiting West Coast players that should be staying in the Pac-14 footprint. And of course the Pac-14 Championship Game is played every year in Las Vegas. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 10 hours ago, WestCoastBias said: Until this past summer, my dream Pac-14 was as follows... Arizona Arizona State BYU California Colorado Colorado State Oregon Oregon State Stanford UCLA USC Utah Washington Washington State BYU was the last remaining G5 football program in the West that could actually be a successful P5 program. BYU has a massive fanbase, a lot of money, a stadium that would be the 4th largest in the Pac-14, and the historical success/brand (past National Championship & Heisman) needed to grab television attention. The addition of BYU would also make one of the countries fiercest rivalries, the Holy War with Utah, a Pac-14 conference game now played during rivalry week instead of early in the year. BYU though was never a real possibility due to its religious affiliation, strict student honor code, and conservative politics that clash heavily with the ideology of the rest of the conference. However, I think these vast idealogical differences would have made for must see games which was already evident with many of BYU's past games vs Pac-12 opponents. Colorado State would have been a massive gamble for the Pac-14. They are not a historically great football program nor do they have a massive fanbase like BYU. CSU certainly does not bring eye balls to the conference. They do though fit in very well culturally and academically with the rest of the conference (enrollment, research, academic rankings, etc.), especially with the other ag schools, Washington State and Oregon State. The real hope in adding them would be to light a fire underneath Colorado's ass. Colorado has no real rivals in the Pac-12 right now and adding their little brother who have actually invested quite a lot in football the past decade (new stadium and facilities but they just can't hire an actually decent head coach) would force CU to care about football or risk falling behind to CSU. Jim McElwain also proved recently that CSU can be a successful football program. Hopefully with both major state schools in Colorado now in a P5 conference together, the state would begin to actually care about college football more too. The final part of the new Pac-14 would have be that EVERY school would play their in state rival on campus during rivalry week. This means no neutral site games in Denver for CSU-CU and that Cal-Stanford and USC-UCLA play every rivalry weekend, no more catering to Notre Dame letting them end every season in California then go straight into recruiting West Coast players that should be staying in the Pac-14 footprint. And of course the Pac-14 Championship Game is played every year in Las Vegas. If your dream for the PAC was BYU and Colorado State, then that validates everyone trying to bail. 1 Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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