The Pointless Realignment Outpost

[McCall]

12 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

Ah, I see. In fairness, I only started with the dismantling of the PAC12 and of that proposal, I believe the Rain Belt 12 to be the most reasonable.

Outside of Oregon and Washington, sure. But both of those schools will stay in one of the Power 5. I think they're headed for the Big Ten, but at minimum, Big 12 if the PAC doesn't survive on it's own.

 

Also, the Big Ten will never be known as anything other than the Big Ten. No Big 18.

[DCarp1231]

1 hour ago, McCall said:

Outside of Oregon and Washington, sure. But both of those schools will stay in one of the Power 5. I think they're headed for the Big Ten, but at minimum, Big 12 if the PAC doesn't survive on it's own.

 

Also, the Big Ten will never be known as anything other than the Big Ten. No Big 18.

I also added Colorado to the B1G to serve as a “bridge” between USC & UCLA and the rest of the conference. Utah would probably be better off in the conference instead of Cal, too.

[McCall]

1 hour ago, DCarp1231 said:

I also added Colorado to the B1G to serve as a “bridge” between USC & UCLA and the rest of the conference. Utah would probably be better off in the conference instead of Cal, too.

Oregon and Washington bring the Pacific Northwest markets (and Nike money, in regards to Oregon). They've been linked to the Big Ten as west coast travel partners for USC/UCLA (in addition to Stanford, IMO). It seems they're the top targets, ahead of Colorado, Utah and Stanford.

[Sport]

I'm sure someone's done this 50 times by now, but I'm in a meeting that I don't need to be in so I'm goofing around with this instead. Here's the NFL realigned using only geography:

 

Eastern Conference

Southeast

Dolphins, Bucs, Jags, Falcons

Northeast

Patriots, Jets, Giants, Eagles

Rust Belt

Browns, Bills, Lions, Steelers

Atlantic

Commanders, Ravens, Panthers, Bengals

 

 

Western Conference

Northwest

Seahawks, 49ers, Broncos, Chiefs

Southwest

Rams, Chargers, Raiders, Cardinals

Central

Vikings, Colts, Packers, Bears

Gulf of Mexico

Cowboys, Texans, Saints, Titans

[DCarp1231]

3 hours ago, McCall said:

Oregon and Washington bring the Pacific Northwest markets (and Nike money, in regards to Oregon). They've been linked to the Big Ten as west coast travel partners for USC/UCLA (in addition to Stanford, IMO). It seems they're the top targets, ahead of Colorado, Utah and Stanford.

Agreed on that point. However, I don’t see the PAC12 surviving without UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Washington. As each Power 5 conference gets bigger, the PAC12 is getting rapidly smaller

 

I’d argue that the remaining 8 teams should still be broken up.

 

The remaining northern teams-

 

Oregon State

Washington State

Colorado

Utah

Cal

 

Could break off to form the Rain Belt 12 with willing partners from the Mountain West, + FCS jumpers like NDSU and SDSU

 

The remaining three-

 

Stanford

Arizona

Arizona State

 

Could join the Big 12, which if added, would bring that conference’s membership up to 15.

[McCall]

45 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

Agreed on that point. However, I don’t see the PAC12 surviving without UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Washington. As each Power 5 conference gets bigger, the PAC12 is getting rapidly smaller

 

I’d argue that the remaining 8 teams should still be broken up.

 

The remaining northern teams-

 

Oregon State

Washington State

Colorado

Utah

Cal

 

Could break off to form the Rain Belt 12 with willing partners from the Mountain West, + FCS jumpers like NDSU and SDSU

 

The remaining three-

 

Stanford

Arizona

Arizona State

 

Could join the Big 12, which if added, would bring that conference’s membership up to 15.

In reality, I see Oregon State & Washington State going to either the Big 12 with the rest of the leftover PAC schools, or ending up in the Mountain West. The rest of them will go Big 12-PAC "merger" if they don't get into the Big Ten. Honestly think the Big Ten's top choices are Oregon and Washington with Stanford. Utah and/or Colorado may be 4th/5th on the list.

[McCall]

On 12/20/2022 at 9:48 AM, Sport said:

I'm sure someone's done this 50 times by now, but I'm in a meeting that I don't need to be in so I'm goofing around with this instead. Here's the NFL realigned using only geography:

 

Eastern Conference

Southeast

Dolphins, Bucs, Jags, Falcons

Northeast

Patriots, Jets, Giants, Eagles

Rust Belt

Browns, Bills, Lions, Steelers

Atlantic

Commanders, Ravens, Panthers, Bengals

 

 

Western Conference

Northwest

Seahawks, 49ers, Broncos, Chiefs

Southwest

Rams, Chargers, Raiders, Cardinals

Central

Vikings, Colts, Packers, Bears

Gulf of Mexico

Cowboys, Texans, Saints, Titans

Wouldn't a PACIFIC DIVISION of Seattle, San Francisco, LA Rams and the LA Chargers along with another division ("Southwest", "Mountain", whatever name) of Las Vegas, Arizona, Denver and Kansas City make more geographical sense and keep the Raiders-Broncos-Chiefs rivalry intact, as well as the Rams-49ers-Seahawks's?

[DCarp1231]

On 12/20/2022 at 10:48 AM, Sport said:

I'm sure someone's done this 50 times by now, but I'm in a meeting that I don't need to be in so I'm goofing around with this instead. Here's the NFL realigned using only geography:

 

Eastern Conference

Southeast

Dolphins, Bucs, Jags, Falcons

Northeast

Patriots, Jets, Giants, Eagles

Rust Belt

Browns, Bills, Lions, Steelers

Atlantic

Commanders, Ravens, Panthers, Bengals

 

 

Western Conference

Northwest

Seahawks, 49ers, Broncos, Chiefs

Southwest

Rams, Chargers, Raiders, Cardinals

Central

Vikings, Colts, Packers, Bears

Gulf of Mexico

Cowboys, Texans, Saints, Titans

Having Miami, Jacksonville, and Tampa Bay basically never leaving Florida every year and Atlanta going to Florida 3 times a year is a bit of an odd choice.

 

Swapping Jags and Titans would make a little more sense in terms of division labeling

[Sport]

On 12/24/2022 at 10:33 AM, DCarp1231 said:

Having Miami, Jacksonville, and Tampa Bay basically never leaving Florida every year and Atlanta going to Florida 3 times a year is a bit of an odd choice.

 

Swapping Jags and Titans would make a little more sense in terms of division labeling

“Here’s the NFL realigned using only geography”

[DCarp1231]

Splitting up the SEC into two smaller conferences

 

Gulf Belt Conference-

Florida

LSU

Auburn

Alabama

Texas

Mississippi State

Ole Miss

Texas A&M

Southern Frontier Conference-

Missouri

Kentucky

Arkansas

Vanderbilt

Tennessee

Georgia

South Carolina

Oklahoma

[raysox]

On 12/2/2022 at 11:48 AM, raysox said:

Problem: the Conference USA is being picked apart and tries to serve a need that the American Athletic Conference and Sunbelt already does  better - occupy the broadest reaches of the Southeast

Solution: a second tier conference for the Plains region in the way the MAC and Mountain West acts for the Big Ten and Pac 12
 

New Mexico State

UTEP

Tulsa

Arkansas State

North Texas

Texas State

Sam Houston State

Louisiana Tech

Louisiana

Rice

 
Little rivalry pods of NMSU/UTEP, Rice/Sam Houston, Tulsa/ArkSt, Louisiana schools, North Texas/Texas State

(ignore that half of these schools are going to the American conference, i'll let them take San Antonio because they fit the characteristics of other schools in that conference. We'll trade them for Tulsa. Also trade FIU to the Sun Belt and open WKU and MTSU to the highest bidder)

This might be a good conference for South Dakota State and North Dakota State to move up. I'd be willing to lose the Ragin' Cajuns and Rice to stay in the SunBelt and AAC. Maybe Missouri State can come up too to stretch north.

[DCarp1231]

14 hours ago, raysox said:

This might be a good conference for South Dakota State and North Dakota State to move up. I'd be willing to lose the Ragin' Cajuns and Rice to stay in the SunBelt and AAC. Maybe Missouri State can come up too to stretch north.

Geographically and likely money wise, I’d imagine NDSU and SDSU go Mountain West, but I suppose CUSA is the safer bet.

[jlog3000]

20 hours ago, DCarp1231 said:

Geographically and likely money wise, I’d imagine NDSU and SDSU go Mountain West, but I suppose CUSA is the safer bet.

 

Even better if it's alongside the Montana schools and the other 2 Dakota schools (i.e. UND and USD).

[pmoehrin]

Silly exercise I decided to do, but I aligned the American & National Leagues with the AFC & NFC Conferences.

 

American	Division	National	Division
Baltimore Orioles	East	New York Mets	East
Boston Red Sox	East	Philadelphia Phillies	East
Miami Marlins	East	Pittsburgh Pirates	East
New York Yankees	East	Tampa Bay Rays	East
Toronto Blue Jays	East	Washington Nationals	East
Chicago White Sox	Central	Atlanta Braves	Central
Cleveland Guardians	Central	Chicago Cubs	Central
Detroit Tigers	Central	Cincinnati Reds	Central
Kansas City Royals	Central	Milwaukee Brewers	Central
Minnesota Twins	Central	St. Louis Cardinals	Central
Colorado Rockies	West	Arizona Diamondbacks	West
Houston Astros	West	Los Angeles Dodgers	West
Los Angeles Angels	West	San Diego Padres	West
Oakland Athletics	West	San Francisco Giants	West
Seattle Mariners	West	Texas Rangers	West
AFC	Division	NFC	Division
Buffalo Bills	East	New York Giants	East
Miami Dolphins	East	Philadelphia Eagles	East
New England Patriots	East	Pittsburgh Steelers	East
New York Jets	East	Washington Commanders	East
Baltimore Ravens	North	Chicago Bears	North
Cleveland Browns	North	Cincinnati Bengals	North
Detroit Lions	North	Green Bay Packers	North
Minnesota Vikings	North	Indianapolis Colts	North
Houston Texans	South	Atlanta Falcons	South
Jacksonville Jaguars	South	Carolina Panthers	South
Kansas City Chiefs	South	New Orleans Saints	South
Tennessee Titans	South	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	South
Denver Broncos	West	Arizona Cardinals	West
Las Vegas Raiders	West	Dallas Cowboys	West
Los Angeles Chargers	West	Los Angeles Rams	West
Seattle Seahawks	West	San Francisco 49ers	West

[raysox]

This is what i thought you were about to do. Sorry to St. Louis, Anaheim, and White Sox fans

 

American East

Boston Red Sox
Toronto Blue Jays

Miami Marlins

New York Mets

 

American North

Cleveland Guardians

Pittsburgh Pirates

Baltimore Orioles

Cincinnati Reds

American South

Jacksonville Suns

Indianapolis Indians

Nashville Sounds

Houston Astros

 

American West

Colorado Rockies

San Diego Padres

Oakland A’s
Kansas City Royals

 

 

National East

Philadelphia Phillies

New York Yankees
Washington Nationals

Texas Rangers

National North

Milwaukee Brewers

Chicago Cubs

Minnesota Twins
Detroit Tigers

National South
Atlanta Braves

Charlotte Knights

Tampa Bay Rays

New Orleans Baby Cakes

 

National West

Seattle Mariners

Arizona Diamondbacks

Los Angeles Dodgers

San Francisco Giants

[B-Rich]

4 hours ago, raysox said:

National South
Atlanta Braves

Charlotte Knights

Tampa Bay Rays

New Orleans Baby Cakes

 

SHHHH! Down here, we do not speak its name, lest it return in all its horrible monstrosity!

[pmoehrin]

16 minutes ago, B-Rich said:

SHHHH! Down here, we do not speak its name, lest it return in all its horrible monstrosity!

 

Was it really that bad?

 

AAA seems like right where New Orleans should be. From what I can tell, the team was drawing decently for a AAA team. But then the name change happened and within two years, attendance fell off a cliff to the point where the club left.

 

Now, it's right there with Providence for being the most underserved baseball market in the country, and the stadium they have is decent enough.

I can't say I get it.

[mrcubfan415]

On 12/31/2014 at 2:24 AM, neo_prankster said:

Baseball in an alternate universe...

American League

East

Boston Red Sox (Since 1901)

Miami Marlins (Since 1993)

New York Yankees (Since 1913; Formerly NY Highlanders 1903-12)

Philadelphia Athletics (Since 1901)

Washington Nationals (Since 1998)

Central

Atlanta Firebirds (Since 1970; Formerly replacement Washington Senators 1961-69)

Chicago White Sox (Since 1901)

Cleveland Indians (Since 1915; Formerly Blues 1901-02, Naps 1903-14)

Detroit Tigers (Since 1901)

Kansas City Royals (Since 1961)

West

Arizona Diamondbacks (Est 1998)

Denver Zephyrs (Since 1969)

Los Angeles Angels (Since 1954; Formerly original Washington Senators 1901-53)

San Francisco Seals (Since 1954; Formerly Milwaukee Brewers 1901, St Louis Browns 1902-53)

Texas Rangers (Since 1969)

National League

East

Baltimore Orioles (Since 1946; Formerly Philadelphia Phillies 1883-1945)

Brooklyn Dodgers (Est 1884)

Montreal Expos (Est 1969)

Pittsburgh Pirates (Est 1887)

Toronto Blue Jays (Est 1977)

Central

Chicago Cubs (Since 1874)

Cincinnati Reds (Est 1882)

Milwaukee Braves (Since 1953; Formerly Boston 1871-1952)

Minnesota Giants (Since 1957; Formerly New York 1883-1956)

St Louis Cardinals (Est 1892)

West

Hollywood Stars (Est 1962)

Houston Astros (Since 1965; Formerly Colt 45s 1962-64)

Portland Beavers (Est 1977)

San Jose Stingrays (Est 1993)

Seattle Pilots (Est 1969)

No Padres?

[McCall]

1 hour ago, mrcubfan415 said:

No Padres?

That post is from 8 years ago.

[mrcubfan415]

My personal suggestion for a more geographically accurate NFL alignment:

AFC:

East: Baltimore Ravens, Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots, New York Jets

North: Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Indianapolis Colts, Pittsburgh Steelers 

South: Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, Miami Dolphins, Tennessee Titans

West: Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, Los Angeles Chargers, Las Vegas Raiders

NFC:

East: Carolina Panthers, New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Commanders

North: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings

South: Atlanta Falcons, Dallas Cowboys, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 

West: Arizona Cardinals, Los Angeles Rams, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks

 

I suppose the Steelers and Ravens could be swapped to keep Browns-Ravens a division rivalry and to make Colts-Ravens (Baltimore’s old vs new team) a division rivalry too.