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2 hours ago, Red Wolf said:

UCF didn't even want to be there, because they felt they deserved the playoff. Bowls don't even really matter.

 

If you want to be a P5 team you gotta have P5 excuses.

Judging by how amped up they were they wanted to prove themselves.  If they had stayed composed on the opening kick they wouldn't have given up a big return. It took them a couple plays to calm down. 

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UCF tried. They're desparate to prove themselves. It was LSU that played a second string defense. 

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Bevo apparently wants some of Georgia tonight. Texas marched right down the field, too. 

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13 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

Bevo apparently wants some of Georgia tonight. Texas marched right down the field, too. 

 

They look good. Hopefully it keeps going this way. 

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MOD EDIT

Edited by crashcarson15
No need to make quips here about a kid dying.

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Nice of you to spend all day Saturday bitching about not getting in the playoff, Georgia. ;)

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Texas will probably be the team to beat in the Big XII next year. Georgia talked so much smack after Notre Dame got rolled then came out absolutely flat. Swift fumbled twice yesterday, losing one of them. They are still stuck in the same mindset that chased off Mark Richt.

 

Ohio State took the foot off the gas and it almost bit them in the backside. At the end of the day the CFP looks like they made the right choice though I think Ohio State would have been a better option than Oklahoma. 

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5 minutes ago, crashcarson15 said:

Nice of you to spend all day Saturday bitching about not getting in the playoff, Georgia. ;)

Maybe they should have been watching tape on Texas instead.  Uga put up more fight than this team.

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That’s a bit of an interesting conclusion to come to after Oklahoma’s only loss came to a team that just handled Georgia pretty well. OSU got absolutely curbstomped by a Purdue team that got their doors blown off by a team that Georgia beat by three scores. 

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I guess nobody wants to go to the NCG, which is weird since it's in a soulless stadium outside of one of the most expensive cities in the world, featuring two teams playing for the fourth straight year... in California despite all of the good schools being east of the Mississippi. 

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On 1/2/2019 at 8:12 AM, Bucfan56 said:

That’s a bit of an interesting conclusion to come to after Oklahoma’s only loss came to a team that just handled Georgia pretty well. OSU got absolutely curbstomped by a Purdue team that got their doors blown off by a team that Georgia beat by three scores. 

Ohio State may have been a better opponent for Alabama, but thanks to that whooping it wasn't going to happen. Will Georgia-ing become the new Clemson-ing?

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21 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

Ohio State may have been a better opponent for Alabama, but thanks to that whooping it wasn't going to happen. Will Georgia-ing become the new Clemson-ing?

 

I sure :censored:ing hope so. Kirby Smart may be an elite recruiter but there's some reason to believe he's not as good at developing or coaching that talent. Running a fake punt with Alabama's defense on the field is one of the most baffling coaching decisions I've ever seen. 

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I thought Georgia-ing was already a thing.  

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https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Morning-Buzz/2019/01/03/MNF.aspx

 

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ESPN will use its “MNF” crew to call Monday’s Alabama-Clemson CFP Championship game as part of planned MegaCast coverage around the event. The “MNF Film Room” will replace the “Coaches Film Room” on ESPNews for the game, with Joe Tessitore, Jason Witten and Booger McFarland teaming up with Todd McShay to provide an X’s and O’s-style telecast from the game site in Santa Clara.

 

Uh... why?

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On 12/30/2018 at 12:19 PM, alxy8s said:

I’m coming to think that the biggest problem with the playoff is that it isn’t always necessary. There were years here and there in which the BCS had to shut out a deserving team because obviously only 2 teams could play in the title game. Adding a playoff round seemed an obvious solution, but we’ve ended up right back to arguing more about how got screwed by being left out than about who’s #1. 

 

I think I’ve mentioned this before, but my likely unworkable idea is that every year should have a dynamic postseason in response to the regular season’s results. This year, 3 teams had a claim to #1. Give number one a bye and have a two versus three. Last year, I’d argue the same thing. I think, at most, we’ve had 6 teams with an argument to make the playoff at year’s end. It’s never been 8. The tournament should be confined to teams that have a claim to be national champions, not simply a reward for a nice season. And the automatic bids that people suggest giving to conference champions are insane. The inherent randomness of a football game could have had Northwestern and Pitt in the playoff this year if that was the system used. 

 

The fact that the playoff benefits more talented teams is a feature, not a bug. It’s supposed to crown a legitimate champion, not necessarily be entertaining in the process. The semifinals have sucked thus far. I’m sure expanding to 8 would produce exciting quarterfinals en route to semifinals that would now be even more greatly tilted towards teams with depth and talent since they’d only have a week’s recovery time before the game. 

 

There’s just no cookie cutter solution for college football. Every season is too different, every conference too disparate in talent, and every schedule too imbalanced to come up with a postseason template that could honestly be fair every year. Maybe that’s why 8 is a catch-all. It’d hardly ever be necessary, but it’d be damn near impossible to leave anyone out. 

I wanted to circle back to this, because I've long thought the same thing as what I bolded in an ideal world, every team that has a potential claim to being the rightful national champion should get a chance to contest it, and nobody else should.

 

I guess in some way, that's what bothers me about your line that "the playoff benefits more talented teams is a feature, not a bug," and why I wouldn't mind it going the other way if it would encourage upsets -- because, even holding regular-season strength of schedule or whatever the same, the current system disproportionately favors talented teams that slipped up during the regular season over less-talented squads that didn't slip up over 12 or 13 games. Historically, the national champion hasn't always been the most talented team, because sometimes that most talented team does screw up, and that's part of the fun of college football (IMO).

 

We've gotten ourselves stuck in a situation where, in order to ensure all teams with a genuine claim have a chance to play for the title, we've actually created one where two teams that categorically weren't in the national title discussion based on their regular seasons have won titles in five years (2014 Ohio State and 2017 Alabama). I'm not sure that was ever true in the past.

 

If eight teams creates a better chance that someone beats one of those No. 4-seeded, most-talented teams that lost a game that should've knocked them out, it might actually produce more deserving champions in a paradoxical way.

 

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The real reason I'm starting to come around on eight is, I think, it makes this sport more fun. I don't enjoy college football right now, and it's probably because everything is an endless debate about resume or stupid hot takes about how A is definitely better than B or about how we should put the "best" teams in even if they weren't the actual best over the course of the season, etc. I find college football fandom really :censored:ing annoying these days, and I think if you go to eight, you reduce the magnitude or importance of those stupid discussions, which maybe makes things more fun.

 

I agree that I don't want conference champions included as auto-bids, or at least not conference champions in the current divisional structure, but if the argument is about Michigan or Washington for the final spot? Who really cares?

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What would the logistics of an 8-team playoff even be?  Would you eliminate conference title games and if so, why would the SEC go along with that?  Do the higher ranked teams host the quarterfinals or are their neutral sites?  If it's the former, now you're not only discussing who gets in but where everyone is ranked and who deserves a home game.  If it's the latter, you're introducing another game you're expecting fanbases to travel for. 

 

This year you would probably get away with the who gets in conversation, but you'd probably also end up with UCF in over the LSU team that was clearly superior to them or the Florida team that beat them, which wouldn't be the worst thing in the world... until Alabama hangs a hundred on UCF.

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if they did go to 8 teams, i think they would go with the winners in the Power 5 conferences championship game, plus 3 at large teams. maybe they have the games on new years day be the quarter finals and the semi finals the week later and the final be the Saturday before the Super Bowl. 

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37 minutes ago, goalieboy82 said:

if they did go to 8 teams, i think they would go with the winners in the Power 5 conferences championship game, plus 3 at large teams. maybe they have the games on new years day be the quarter finals and the semi finals the week later and the final be the Saturday before the Super Bowl. 

Your plan would require a bylaw change to extend the season. Currently, the second Monday in January is the latest date a game can be played.

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1 hour ago, See Red said:

What would the logistics of an 8-team playoff even be?  Would you eliminate conference title games and if so, why would the SEC go along with that?  Do the higher ranked teams host the quarterfinals or are their neutral sites?  If it's the former, now you're not only discussing who gets in but where everyone is ranked and who deserves a home game.  If it's the latter, you're introducing another game you're expecting fanbases to travel for. 

 

This year you would probably get away with the who gets in conversation, but you'd probably also end up with UCF in over the LSU team that was clearly superior to them or the Florida team that beat them, which wouldn't be the worst thing in the world... until Alabama hangs a hundred on UCF.

Quarters would most likely start the week after Army-Navy with 1-4 hosting 8-5 at their home stadiums. The reason being is that it's easier to set up and accommodate that many people on short notice than say picking 4 random sites around the United States and letting 1-4 pick what site they want to play at based on how many of their fans and the opponents fans could attend. That and cost are what is threatening to provide low numbers for this year's championship game. The question then becomes do those bowl games that host the semi-final slide forward a week or stay in place? Will the sponsors rather they have as close to an even split of time between each round or only worry about the time gap between the semis and the championship?

 

35 minutes ago, dfwabel said:

Your plan would require a bylaw change to extend the season. Currently, the second Monday in January is the latest date a game can be played.

One suggestion made by Mark Packer is to move the season forward a week rather than back a week. He also suggested a rule of no FCS teams after Week 3. 

 

1 hour ago, goalieboy82 said:

if they did go to 8 teams, i think they would go with the winners in the Power 5 conferences championship game, plus 3 at large teams. maybe they have the games on new years day be the quarter finals and the semi finals the week later and the final be the Saturday before the Super Bowl. 

I think if they decide on this then we'll see divisions done away with. For this year, it wouldn't have changed the SEC or ACC matchups but it would have changed the Big Ten title game, with Michigan replacing Northwestern. The so called experts would have a more even population to draw from when seeding the playoffs if everyone in the conference championships are potential playoff contenders. 

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