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3 minutes ago, VampyrRabbit said:

The Giants don't play in a dilapidated dual use Football/Baseball stadium with a tarp capped monstrosity that San Francisco is still in the hole for blocking a scenic view, nor are the owners of the Giants about to oversee a second consecutive 100 loss season.

 

All the more reason to relocate!

 

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5 minutes ago, the admiral said:

Opinions vary

 

Name a sports town hotter than Las Vegas. I'll wait.

 

Vegas has added three pro teams in 5 years. Is now the home to a slew of college conference tournaments. Hosted the NFL Draft and next year has this thing they call the Super Bowl. Again. all this happened over the span of half a decade. 🔥🔥🔥

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1 hour ago, Cujo said:

Name a sports town hotter than Las Vegas. I'll wait.

New York, Los Angeles, Boston, Denver, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, ironically, the Bay Area

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♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫

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1 hour ago, Cujo said:

 

Name a sports town hotter than Las Vegas. I'll wait.

 

Vegas has added three pro teams in 5 years. Is now the home to a slew of college conference tournaments. Hosted the NFL Draft and next year has this thing they call the Super Bowl. Again. all this happened over the span of half a decade. 🔥🔥🔥

 

This reads like some realtor post on the Las Vegas subreddit

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I live in the area we're talking about. Other people that live here like the Knights and are largely still fans of whatever NFL team they liked prior to the Raiders move. In my opinion, if they get the state assembly to pull their pants down for a ballpark like they did for Allegiant Stadium, it's gonna look like the Miami Marlins with a few more drunken tourists very quickly. 81 major league priced home games mostly occurring during the time of year where you just want to go from air-conditioned work to air-conditioned home isn't gonna work, even if it's a dome. Displacing the minor league team and hiking up ticket prices for your 100+ loss roster because you've burnt every bridge and alienated every fan in your current home market isn't gonna win a lot of hearts and minds on top of that.

 

(Also the RSN for the Knights is being liquidated by WBD, so good luck getting any regional TV money, even if they throw Utah into your region)

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6 hours ago, DrAwesomeberry said:

Displacing the minor league team and hiking up ticket prices for your 100+ loss roster because you've burnt every bridge and alienated every fan in your current home market isn't gonna win a lot of hearts and minds on top of that.

Again... the Aviators will NOT be displaced.🤦‍♂️

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Read in the Jeff Passan article that they're committed to keeping the A's name.  Unknown is Vegas vs Las Vegas and any color/logo changes, but they have a couple of years to figure that out.

 

I kinda just want to see the band-aid ripped off and get them out of Oakland as soon as that lease is up, even if we have a Tennessee Oilers situation.  Sounds like a 1 or 2 year extension till 25 or 26 is on the table, but I'd rather them become the LVA's ASAP.

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5 minutes ago, BBTV said:

Read in the Jeff Passan article that they're committed to keeping the A's name.  Unknown is Vegas vs Las Vegas and any color/logo changes, but they have a couple of years to figure that out.

 

I kinda just want to see the band-aid ripped off and get them out of Oakland as soon as that lease is up, even if we have a Tennessee Oilers situation.  Sounds like a 1 or 2 year extension till 25 or 26 is on the table, but I'd rather them become the LVA's ASAP.

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility, even if less likely, that they could come to a mutual agreement with Oakland to end the lease after this season and they begin playing at Las Vegas Ballpark next year. Although I think they'd at least want a concrete stadium plan in the works before they move.

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42 minutes ago, McCall said:

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility, even if less likely, that they could come to a mutual agreement with Oakland to end the lease after this season and they begin playing at Las Vegas Ballpark next year. Although I think they'd at least want a concrete stadium plan in the works before they move.


Yeah I think that’s extremely unlikely, since it’s still not a done deal and there’s still the matter of securing the $500M in public money they’re asking for. That could still take a few months. 
 

Besides that, while I’m assuming that they’ve been preparing for this and have some idea of the mechanics involved, I can’t imagine that securing office space, hiring new staff (for the non-baseball-ops positions that people may not want to move for), and all the other logistical challenges could be worked out in that time. 
 

they could possibly just move their equipment and on-field staff while continuing to operate all the business stuff from Oakland for another year. It’s probably not as important for that stuff to be based locally as it used to be. 

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27 minutes ago, BBTV said:


Yeah I think that’s extremely unlikely, since it’s still not a done deal and there’s still the matter of securing the $500M in public money they’re asking for. That could still take a few months. 
 

Besides that, while I’m assuming that they’ve been preparing for this and have some idea of the mechanics involved, I can’t imagine that securing office space, hiring new staff (for the non-baseball-ops positions that people may not want to move for), and all the other logistical challenges could be worked out in that time. 
 

they could possibly just move their equipment and on-field staff while continuing to operate all the business stuff from Oakland for another year. It’s probably not as important for that stuff to be based locally as it used to be. 

Yeah I think 2025 is the earliest we would see them playing in Las Vegas. It may really come down to what they and Oakland can agree to going forward or if one side wants to end the "relationship" as soon as possible. Either side, really.

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2 hours ago, McCall said:

Again... the Aviators will NOT be displaced.🤦‍♂️


Which is crazy considering Fresno has a AAA quality park and a  Single A level team. 

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9 hours ago, LMU said:

RACK HIM!

 

I'll never understand why "RACK HIM" didn't make it as a popular Internet meme.

 

Jim Rome literally invented take culture, and was doing poscast-style broadcasting before there were podcasts, yet he has zero online presence.  Makes no sense.

 

I remember working for $8.50/hour in a summer job, sitting in my car eating tuna fish on lunch, listening to Jim Rome. Great days. Afternoons were for Don & Mike (everybody loves Don and Mike).

 

On the topic, I don't think it's any great reach to say Vegas has been a huge success as a sports market. That they managed to build two huge, modern sports facilities right off the Strip is incredible.

1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said:

and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags

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Reggie weighing in. And, he’s not wrong.

 

 

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“You’re going to lose the team,” Jackson told Sportico’s Barry M. Bloom. “The city, I thought, really needed to do something. Save the A’s. You lost the Warriors. You lost the Raiders. What the hell’s wrong with you? You can’t see that coming? The fans don’t deserve that. I blame the people running the deal. You’ve got to keep the team for the benefit of the city. They lost all three of them.”

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“I think the Fishers did their best trying to get something done,” Jackson said. “At the same time, no matter how wealthy you are, you can’t continue to lose money every year. So, you have to go whether you want to stay or not. I always thought they bought the team to try to keep it there.”

 

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1 minute ago, LMU said:

At the same time, no matter how wealthy you are, you can’t continue to lose money every year.

 

I doubt Reggie has facts that support this claim.

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The :censored:ty thing about the A's leaving Oakland is that the market really hasn't had the chance to show itself over the last 30 years given the stadium situation, but Oakland is also one of the like, 15 markets in MLB that is perfectly expendable for any number of other places if the stadium situation is bad. This is probably true of every pro sports league (well, except the NFL, where like, every team is expendable), but it's exacerbated in baseball because (a) 81 home dates and (b) baseball stadiums don't lend themselves to other uses the way NBA and NHL arenas do.

 

I don't know that Las Vegas will necessarily work for MLB, but I think it'll probably be as fine as any other place would be and will be a neat park to visit.

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