Walk-Off Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 "The Giants obviously still play there." That statement by Rob Manfred is one more reason for my longstanding suspicion that the MLB establishment has regarded the A's as a geographically expendable franchise and has seen Oakland as a geographically expendable location for a team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanMcD29 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 3 hours ago, Digby said: Convinced that Rob Manfred was the victim/champion of some recruiter's error, and that he was meant to be the CEO of a small-time hospital group or pamphlet-printing agency, and he had never heard of Major League Baseball until now. He's been faking his way through ever since. (Do also note which other commish went there) Quote Twitter: @RyanMcD29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimalCookie Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 7 hours ago, Lights Out said: Is it 2029 yet? By this logic the Mets, White Sox, and Angels should all move too. After all, there's still the Yankees, Cubs, and Dodgers in those markets. Surely their fans would just switch over to those teams, just like A's fans will definitely switch to the Giants! What a genius he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 3 hours ago, Walk-Off said: "The Giants obviously still play there." That statement by Rob Manfred is one more reason for my longstanding suspicion that the MLB establishment has regarded the A's as a geographically expendable franchise and has seen Oakland as a geographically expendable location for a team. Back when the A's fans and Giants fans had a "Sell the team Rally" at Oracle Park, Manfred was silent about it, but if asked he probably would have said that the chant shows the passion the Giants fans have for their team, ignoring what the chant was all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 hours ago, Walk-Off said: "The Giants obviously still play there." That statement by Rob Manfred is one more reason for my longstanding suspicion that the MLB establishment has regarded the A's as a geographically expendable franchise and has seen Oakland as a geographically expendable location for a team. I mean, they are. Two minutes after they get lost, most people who aren’t the weird angry haters who already irrationally hate the Giants, will forget about them entirely. I say that as someone who grew up an A’s fan in the Bay Area and greater Northern California. Bye Felicia. 2 Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostOfNormMacdonald Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Inb4 Manfred calls them the "Golden State Giants" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 If the Nashville Predators fanbase could successfully mount a "don't take our toy away" push and get serious about the team after an existential crisis, so too can the fans of the Oakland A's, one would hope. 1 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 15 hours ago, Walk-Off said: "The Giants obviously still play there." That statement by Rob Manfred is one more reason for my longstanding suspicion that the MLB establishment has regarded the A's as a geographically expendable franchise and has seen Oakland as a geographically expendable location for a team. The other three multi-team markets are also the biggest MSAs in the United States; SF/Oakland is something like 12th. Granted SF/Oakland punches above its weight economically and culturally, but by that token so does Boston. So from a purely cold analytic perspective, there is probably some truth to that. The Bay Area jumps up that list quite a ways if you go up a rung on the census area ladder and include San Jose (not to mention all the $$ there), which is why that feels like such a missed solution. Regardless of this latest tech bubble apparently popping, I'm still taking the Bay over Las Vegas 10 years from now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, Digby said: The other three multi-team markets are also the biggest MSAs in the United States; SF/Oakland is something like 12th. Granted SF/Oakland punches above its weight economically and culturally, but by that token so does Boston. So from a purely cold analytic perspective, there is probably some truth to that. The Bay Area jumps up that list quite a ways if you go up a rung on the census area ladder and include San Jose (not to mention all the $$ there), which is why that feels like such a missed solution. Regardless of this latest tech bubble apparently popping, I'm still taking the Bay over Las Vegas 10 years from now. San Jose is weird because it’s the largest city in the Bay Area, and I think has been my entire life. The problem still with SJ is that it’s kind of geographically isolated from the rest of the greater Bay Area. The other issue is they don’t have the public transportation heft that the rest of the metro area does. They have Cal Train, which has improved but still pales in comparison to having a dedicated subway line like the rest of the Bay Area has with BART. San Jose decided a long time ago that they didn’t want BART running into their area (as did Marin County), and while the NIMBY stuff is very typical, it definitely holds them back from being a fully fledged contender for another top level pro team. Marin county doesn’t have this issue because it’s always been a bedroom community with a more upscale feel. It at least makes sense that they would give that pushback. San Jose, otoh, doesn’t have the panache Marin County does in terms of luxury, and has mostly changed to a working economy with the tech boom. Them still pushing back against some of the public transportation options coming from the rest of the area is actively kneecapping themselves when it comes to certain levels of growth. At least, that’s what I’m feeling about it. Theres also the expense, of course. That’s an issue too because of what I said about San Jose’s overall isolation. That’s a huge distance to cover. Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The Bay Area has to have some of the weirdest, clunkiest geography in America. It's probably a big reason why San Francisco became an urban theme park: it had to become an attraction for people reverse-commuting to all the tech campuses 40 miles south. Nothing can make sense when the population horseshoes a giant bay. 3 hours ago, Digby said: The other three multi-team markets are also the biggest MSAs in the United States; SF/Oakland is something like 12th. Granted SF/Oakland punches above its weight economically and culturally, but by that token so does Boston. Do you remember the brief but intriguing noise about the Expos moving to Boston? I think it got the same cursory attention as Norfolk did. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoehrin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 7 minutes ago, The_Admiral said: The Bay Area has to have some of the weirdest, clunkiest geography in America. It's probably a big reason why San Francisco became an urban theme park: it had to become an attraction for people reverse-commuting to all the tech campuses 40 miles south. Nothing can make sense when the population horseshoes a giant bay. It's basically four metro areas in one. San Francisco, Oakland, and Silicon Valley/San Jose are the big three, but even wine country, aka the North Bay, has multiple cities with over 100k+ people living there, and as a whole, the region is home to around 1.5 million people. That area is not considered part of the San Francisco metro, but it definitely falls within the Bay Area ticket base. That's why you can't look at the metro area as the be-all-end-all when it comes to evaluating markets. The simple answer would be to have the A's move to San Jose/Silicon Valley and call it a day, but nothing can be that simple. The original sin of the Oakland A's was Charles Finley agreeing to be the stepchild franchise because he was that desperate to get out of Kansas City. Every issue the A's have ever had with trying to leave the Coliseum stems from the original agreement that said the A's would never consider moving to Santa Clara County. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digby Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, The_Admiral said: Do you remember the brief but intriguing noise about the Expos moving to Boston? I think it got the same cursory attention as Norfolk did. I don't even remember it happening in real-time, but when I read again about it years later, I kind of assumed it was an idea planted by John Henry staring into an overleveraged abyss before the pink-hat-era cash cow really took off, and before they figured out how to get concerts and football and obscure Irish field sports into Fenway on every other Sox off-day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 And now MLB may have their own issues with Arizona: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 That hole's been crying "buy me a new park or else" for like seven years now. Tommy Ricketts put in the paper today that he's too poor to make the Cubs really good despite owning Wrigley Field and the entirety of nine square blocks around it. I fail to see how it is my problem if any of these ossified turds are truly incapable of finding the "on" button on the money printing machines they have been handed, and as far as I am concerned, each of them can sit on a zucchini wrapped in 30-grit sandpaper and twirl. I get enough "But I'm the real victim here" from people who have never faced a real obstacle a single day in their lives in my news. I don't need it in the sports section as well. 3 Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fowler2 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Move the D'Backs to Vegas and the A's to Phoenix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 6 minutes ago, BottomlessPitt said: Move the D'Backs to Vegas and the A's to Phoenix. Are you really @Unocal come back under a different name? Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowler2 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, McCall said: Are you really @Unocal come back under a different name? You have the sense of humor of a weirdo who hangs out in his basement rooting for spring football teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 11 minutes ago, BottomlessPitt said: You have the sense of humor of a weirdo who hangs out in his basement rooting for spring football teams. Retort is clearly not your strength. 1 Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I can't see MLB leaving the Phoenix market, so if it's not going to be Phoenix, it's going to be a suburb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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