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6 hours ago, GDAWG said:

 

The leagues need to stop going to Las Vegas.  For once, can we have a league that won't put a team in Las Vegas?  Why does Vegas believe that they are big enough to hold 4 major league teams?  

 

Idk why everyone wants to Vegas to have all these teams, especially the A's. Would you rather see baseball get a lifeless dome with artificial grass or another beautiful outdoor ballpark on the bay?  

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11 minutes ago, WestCoastBias said:

 

Idk why everyone wants to Vegas to have all these teams, especially the A's. Would you rather see baseball get a lifeless dome with artificial grass or another beautiful outdoor ballpark on the bay?  

Oakland sucks. Move on.

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13 hours ago, WestCoastBias said:

Would you rather see baseball get a lifeless dome with artificial grass or another beautiful outdoor ballpark on the bay?  

We already have both, so Id rather see the A's play somewhere that isnt crumbling, with backed up sewers, and in a city where the local government actually cares about their sports teams. Oakland has had nearly 20 years to get a new ballpark built,  but instead the city has lost the Warriors, Raiders, and now the A's. Yes I get that Fischer passed on the Howard terminal park for Vegas, but what about the years before that when they tried San Jose, Fremont to keep the team in the Bay Area? Oakland was silent. Oakland had plenty of chances but Fischer and MLB gave up because the city of Oakland kept dragging their feet to the point that it was too late. Its the same reason the Warriors, and Raiders left too, because the city was silent.

 

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On 6/8/2024 at 3:47 PM, GDAWG said:

The leagues need to stop going to Las Vegas.  For once, can we have a league that won't put a team in Las Vegas?  Why does Vegas believe that they are big enough to hold 4 major league teams?  

 

Because professional sports is an entertainment business and Las Vegas happens to be the entertainment capital of the world. It's also one of the fastest growing cities in the country, having almost doubled its population in the past 20 years. The only reason it's taken this long for leagues to put teams there is because they spent decades in fear of the boogieman known as gambling.

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1 hour ago, spartacat_12 said:

 

Because professional sports is an entertainment business and Las Vegas happens to be the entertainment capital of the world. It's also one of the fastest growing cities in the country, having almost doubled its population in the past 20 years. The only reason it's taken this long for leagues to put teams there is because they spent decades in fear of the boogieman known as gambling.

 

For me it's more about "Las Vegas is getting 4 Major League teams way too fast" so much so that I don't think they can sustain all 4 Major League teams plus WNBA, National Lacrosse League, Pro Volleyball Federation, Indoor Football League, MLS team (which they will get) and eventually a Women's soccer team.   

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13 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

 

For me it's more about "Las Vegas is getting 4 Major League teams way too fast" so much so that I don't think they can sustain all 4 Major League teams plus WNBA, National Lacrosse League, Pro Volleyball Federation, Indoor Football League, MLS team (which they will get) and eventually a Women's soccer team.   

Do they have an owner with deep pockets? Venues? Then why is it a concern to you?

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It's where I sit.

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16 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said:

Do they have an owner with deep pockets? Venues? Then why is it a concern to you?

 

This is my attitude about Vegas as well. The only sport I do worry about succeeding there is baseball. But, it's probably more of an A's issue than baseball issue. 

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37 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

For me it's more about "Las Vegas is getting 4 Major League teams way too fast" so much so that I don't think they can sustain all 4 Major League teams plus WNBA, National Lacrosse League, Pro Volleyball Federation, Indoor Football League, MLS team (which they will get) and eventually a Women's soccer team.   

 

Well they've been able to sustain everything so far. Also, the city of Los Angeles got an NBA team, NHL team, and two MLB teams in less than 10 years from 1958-1967, so the idea of a city getting teams this quickly isn't unprecedented.

 

I thought it was just bitter northern hockey fans who were upset about Vegas having a hockey team, but it seems like there's an odd group of sports fans who see teams in Vegas as some sort of affront to the integrity of competition or something.

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2 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

 

Gambling is my main problem with all of this.  It looks like the MLB and NBA have a handle on their gambling policy, as does the NFL to a lesser degree, and likely the NHL too, but I don't know about the other leagues.  It doesn't seem like its going to be a problem so far, but who knows.  

Just once I was hoping you wouldn't move the goalposts. You didn't say anything about gambling -- you just said 'For me it's more about "Las Vegas is getting 4 Major League teams way too fast" so much so that I don't think they can sustain all 4 Major League teams'

It's where I sit.

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10 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said:

Just once I was hoping you wouldn't move the goalposts. You didn't say anything about gambling -- you just said 'For me it's more about "Las Vegas is getting 4 Major League teams way too fast" so much so that I don't think they can sustain all 4 Major League teams'

 

Yeah, I deleted that message.  My main issue is that I think that Las Vegas should taking things slowly with their major league teams.  Give the new team in Vegas time to breathe for several years before another league goes there.  Let them build local fanbases first.  That is my main issue with the whole thing.  

 

Las Vegas getting MLB and NBA is inevitable, but their arrivals in the city should be spread out a few years rather than having them arrive in the same year.  They won't sustain all both teams if they arrive in the same year.  

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I just don't like Las Vegas that's why I don't want them to get an MLB team. 

 

Of course I wanted the A's to stay in Oakland/Bay Area but I'd rather see them ultimately stay in Sacramento or end up in Portland or even Vancouver, places that are actual cities with PCL history rather than a gambling tourist attraction. 

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7 hours ago, WestCoastBias said:

I just don't like Las Vegas that's why I don't want them to get an MLB team. 

 

Of course I wanted the A's to stay in Oakland/Bay Area but I'd rather see them ultimately stay in Sacramento or end up in Portland or even Vancouver, places that are actual cities with PCL history rather than a gambling tourist attraction. 

What about Nashville, then?

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On 6/10/2024 at 9:19 AM, Sec19Row53 said:

Do they have an owner with deep pockets? Venues? Then why is it a concern to you?


As a Nevada tax payer (especially one in the Reno metro area), I care a little bit. 

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