DCarp1231 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, QCS said: That's exactly what we said about Sam Darnold. Except Darnold is considerably worse than Mayfield 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 IDK. Is Baker considered a "culture carrier" or a "culture killer" at this point? Are the reports of his "immaturity" possibly exaggeration? Seems like it started to come out pretty recently, coincidentally around the time the team was making a play for a new QB. Maybe just trying to sell the need for a change to their fans? Wouldn't be the first time a team "planted" stories to justify jettisoning someone (Chip Kelly planted stories of Deshawn Jackson's gang affiliations in the media right before releasing him for being black.) 2 "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky1324 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, DCarp1231 said: Except Darnold is considerably worse than Mayfield To be quite honest, I don't see the value in trading for Baker. Ok, he wins us a couple more games - does that benefit us? Would it not be better to draft our next QB than trade for one (with the little draft capital we have, we still don't have a day two pick) and then if he is the long-term answer pay that traded QB a ton of money, handicapping us from improving the team elsewhere? The strategy to win in the NFL is to have a young QB on a rookie contract then use the remaining money to build up the rest of the team. The Panthers have a bunch of good young players approaching contract extensions and I don't want to be handicapped paying Baker instead of them. 2 the user formerly known as cdclt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 It is possible that Baker is just a more talented Johnny Manziel. It's also weird that a team that needs to unload their once-franchise QB doesn't seem to have any problem trashing him and tanking his value before they trade him. The NFL will put up with sexual assault from its QBs, but that's because most of the owners are grabbing ass too. The NFL won't put up with a subpar QB making a nuisance of himself. Who gets a job first: Kap or Baker? 2 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, QCS said: To be quite honest, I don't see the value in trading for Baker. Ok, he wins us a couple more games - does that benefit us? Would it not be better to draft our next QB than trade for one (with the little draft capital we have, we still don't have a day two pick) and then if he is the long-term answer pay that traded QB a ton of money, handicapping us from improving the team elsewhere? The strategy to win in the NFL is to have a young QB on a rookie contract then use the remaining money to build up the rest of the team. The Panthers have a bunch of good young players approaching contract extensions and I don't want to be handicapped paying Baker instead of them. Let’s place him on the Rodgers-Brady spectrum. On one end, he could swindle Carolina (or another team) for all their money then cry about the team not being able to retain any good players On the other end, he could get a large contract, but repeatedly restructure it every year in an effort to help the team retain the good players. I’d say he probably favors the Rodgers end just a tad, but I believe he actually wants to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said: Who gets a job first: Kap or Baker? Baker, and sadly, that’s not even a question. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky1324 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said: Let’s place him on the Rodgers-Brady spectrum. On one end, he could swindle Carolina (or another team) for all their money then cry about the team not being able to retain any good players On the other end, he could get a large contract, but repeatedly restructure it every year in an effort to help the team retain the good players. I’d say he probably favors the Rodgers end just a tad, but I believe he actually wants to win. I'd still rather the team draft a QB than take another chance on another reclamation project. He did well-ish in Cleveland, but how well would he do here? And would that success or lack thereof really be worth the risk/capital in trading for him? In my opinion it's more worth taking a chance on a rookie QB that you can control for several years on a low contract than a more proven, but still risky QB that, if he does well, will command a lot more money from you. the user formerly known as cdclt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorWhom Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 If the Seahawks are going to get their QB in the draft, the only other QB desperate team seems to be the Panthers. Also I don't recall hearing too much about Baker having many serious issues until recently. I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns were exaggerating things because they wanted him out to get Watson. Regardless he's still a top QB that if nothing else, can get your team to the playoffs. Carolina seems like the best fit for him. Especially if they don't have to give up much. Only others I can think of, Texans? Titans?(would be an improvement over Tannehill), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 The Packers gonna do anything with QB Jordan Love? Or does he just sit behind Rodgers, never see the field, and leave when his contract expires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 People: wow…. They can’t do worse Cleveland: “oh yea? Hold my beer” People: No that wasn’t a challenge WTF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, Cujo said: The Packers gonna do anything with QB Jordan Love? Or does he just sit behind Rodgers, never see the field, and leave when his contract expires? Do what? Cut him? No one is trading anything for him. http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said: Do what? Cut him? No one is trading anything for him. I dunno what the Packers are doing or thinking. But there's gotta be a team who would give up a 2nd rounder to at least kick the tires on him. Him on the bench does nothing for GB, especially now that Rodgers' now contract outlasts Love's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cujo said: I dunno what the Packers are doing or thinking. But there's gotta be a team who would give up a 2nd rounder to at least kick the tires on him. Him on the bench does nothing for GB, especially now that Rodgers' now contract outlasts Love's The talk is that although Rodgers has a new contract, he's probably going to take it year by year and could easily retire after 1 or 2 of the seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, GDAWG said: The talk is that although Rodgers has a new contract, he's probably going to take it year by year and could easily retire after 1 or 2 of the seasons. Get something, anything for Love while Rodgers is still on the team and the Packers' championship window is still open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 hours ago, DG_ThenNowForever said: Maybe Baker goes the Trubisky route and backs up Josh Allen for the season. Worked out pretty well for Mitch, and Baker probably needs to watch someone do it who's better than he is for a while. Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk says that Baker would be a good fit in Detroit because he thinks Dan Campbell could control his attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavybass Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Chargers are literally going for it since Herbert's on that rookie contract.... gave him options and weapons and protection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, GDAWG said: Baker would be a good fit in Detroit That would surely be the end of Baker. Matthew Stafford is the only QB to survive that franchise -- well -- ever. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Cujo said: I dunno what the Packers are doing or thinking. But there's gotta be a team who would give up a 2nd rounder to at least kick the tires on him. Him on the bench does nothing for GB, especially now that Rodgers' now contract outlasts Love's Second rounder!? On a player the Packers have clearly have zero faith in? Who looked painfully uninspiring in his only game? Matt Ryan played in a superbowl and was had for a third. I think the word is out on Love. The Packers aren't even trying to hide it. I'd be shocked if someone was willing to offer better than a 5th for this guy. 2 http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 minute ago, oldschoolvikings said: Matt Ryan played in a superbowl and was had for a third. A player's age and contract comes into play with these trades. But I'm sure you knew that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 So do the Colts get Ryan all new jerseys, or do they just cover up the WENTZ nameplate with duct tape and write RYAN over it? "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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