Kramerica Industries Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, infrared41 said: It sucks that Florida State got screwed but I can't lie, I'm looking forward to Alabama curb stomping Michigan. There is something extremely amusing about Michigan, the #1 seed, being "rewarded" by facing Ala-fricken'-bama as their first opponent. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said: And they'll have a legitimate claim. If you win your conference and every other game and you're in a P5 conference, you get to be called champion. Right. ACC champion. 3 1 1 Quote http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, oldschoolvikings said: I gotta admit my entire focus this whole weekend is trying to figure out what throws the most obstacles up in the way of Michigan. That's been me for the last two years but with Georgia (and now FSU). I thought the funniest outcome would be Michigan winning the NC and having it vacated but honestly, this might be funnier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManillaToad Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 The committee made it this far without screwing up the playoff selections but decided to :censored: their pants in the final 4-team year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, Cujo said: Simply removing team names helps demonstrate my point. You cannot leave any of the three 13-0 teams out. The final slot should and will come down to the Big 12 or SEC champion. Guys. It's ok to leave Alabama out. America will be ok. If anything, it illustrates my point even more. An undefeated ACC champion is not automatically as strong as a 1-loss SEC or Big 12 champion. If that were Louisville or Duke, would you give them as much credit as Florida State or Clemson? I’m guessing not. 1 Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManillaToad Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, McCall said: If anything, it illustrates my point even more. An undefeated ACC champion is not automatically as strong as a 1-loss SEC or Big 12 champion. If that were Louisville or Duke, would you give them as much credit as Florida State or Clemson? I’m guessing not. Yes...? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, oldschoolvikings said: Right. ACC champion. I don't know college football all that well and I know I always show that ignorance by expecting logical outcomes based on performance on the field. Actual wins counting less than good losses is the craziest thing about the sport. 3 Quote 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 FSU will only have a "legitimate" claim if they finish #1 in one of the recognized selector polls, iirc. UFC was #1 in the Colley Matrix the year they claimed a national championship even though that poll has a history of being screwy. But even the Colley Matrix doesn't have FSU above Alabama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, DG_ThenNowForever said: I don't know college football all that well and I know I always show that ignorance by expecting logical outcomes based on performance on the field. Actual wins counting less than good losses is the craziest thing about the sport. The selection committee went out of their way to make sure Alabama got in over FSU. Not only what you mentioned, putting good losses on the same level as actual wins. But to have a built in loophole which states "you may punish teams if a star player is injured". That is insaneeee that is actually in their criteria handbook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanshepherd Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Imagine if the NFL told the 2017 Eagles that since Carson Wentz was hurt they didn’t deserve to be in the playoffs and replaced them with the Cowboys 1 Quote i have unquantifiable corpses on my conscience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Germanshepherd said: Imagine if the NFL told the 2017 Eagles that since Carson Wentz was hurt they didn’t deserve to be in the playoffs and replaced them with the Cowboys Pick a team other than the Cowboys and I would have been OK with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said: I don't know college football all that well and I know I always show that ignorance by expecting logical outcomes based on performance on the field. Actual wins counting less than good losses is the craziest thing about the sport. The problem is you have 128 teams, 13 games, and 4 playoff spots. It's impossible to rank teams without rolling out hypotheticals with the biggest one being "would Florida State beat Alabama if they played tomorrow?" or even "would Florida State be undefeated if they played Alabama's schedule?" and the answer to both is a resounding no. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanshepherd Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, See Red said: The problem is you have 128 teams, 13 games, and 4 playoff spots. It's impossible to rank teams without rolling out hypotheticals with the biggest one being "would Florida State beat Alabama if they played tomorrow?" or even "would Florida State be undefeated if they played Alabama's schedule?" and the answer to both is a resounding no. Boo hoo. How about win all your games. Quote i have unquantifiable corpses on my conscience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, Germanshepherd said: Boo hoo. How about win all your games. Why doesn't Alabama just play in a weaker conference. Are they stupid? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanshepherd Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 The SEC went 7-9 in Power Five non conference games. Sounds like a weak conference to me. 3 Quote i have unquantifiable corpses on my conscience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unocal Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 why play the games? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Unocal said: why play the games? Engagement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG_ThenNowForever Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, See Red said: The problem is you have 128 teams, 13 games, and 4 playoff spots. It's impossible to rank teams without rolling out hypotheticals with the biggest one being "would Florida State beat Alabama if they played tomorrow?" or even "would Florida State be undefeated if they played Alabama's schedule?" and the answer to both is a resounding no. I understand totally what you're saying and to a sense I get it. But the ultimate tiebreaker should always be wins. And the expanded playoff definitely helps this. Quote 1 hour ago, ShutUpLutz! said: and the drunken doodoobags jumping off the tops of SUV's/vans/RV's onto tables because, oh yeah, they are drunken drug abusing doodoobags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Had the committee guy just said "We really just wanted the Alabama brand in the playoff" I would've been fine with it. The honestly would've been refreshing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, Cujo said: Had the committee guy just said "We really just wanted the Alabama brand in the playoff" I would've been fine with it. The honestly would've been refreshing. Replace Alabama with the SEC and it's been obvious since day one of this thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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