DarthMan Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Ron Artest- 30 gamesJermaine O'Neal/Stephen Jackson-20Ben Wallace-5 gamesaccording to fox sports. whaddaya think? "We have nothing to fear except fear itself." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mings Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 wallace should get 10, but for the pacers, yeah its good. now the pacers are gonna suck though, anyone wanna buy my tickets lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMan Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 hahaha this is really gonna hurt a fantasy owner with these guys... "We have nothing to fear except fear itself." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFoA Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Wow, there goes the Pacers season. They've barely got enough people to play right now, and their three best players are now gone for a long time. But Stephen Jackson should get the most games IMO, he delivered some of the most vicious blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodsep Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 30 for Artest?!?!?!?! Man he outdid the man he is honoring by wearing #91. Some where in a strip joint Dennis Rodman is smiling.But I loved the hit 'FroMan got on Artest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj32 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 If these are correct (I can't find confirmation, yet), look for the NBAPA to appeal on behalf of Artest, Jackson & O'Neal's suspensions being excessive. They also might appeal on behalf of Wallace's because I don't think I've heard of a two-hand shove and a towel toss being worth 5 games, despite how it led to the situation escalating. Artest's 30 games may stand due to his past history. Jackson, O'Neal and Wallace might get theirs reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesCraven Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Thirty games for Artest is a slap on the wrist compared to what I wanted: Lifetime banishment. Ditto Jermaine O'Neal and Steven Jackson for twenty games. I expected Ben Wallace to be out for five games. "I better go take a long walk off a short pier or something."Some people on this bolard have told me to do just that.My "Ron Mexico" alias is "Jon Tobago". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winters in buffalo Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Looks like he's got plenty of time for that CD promo tour now, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJMorris3 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Here's what I nominate as appropriate punishments.Artest - 41 gamesJackson - 20 games is OKO'Neal - 20 games worksWallace - Given the situation, let's make it 8 gamesAlso, the Pistons should be required to play their next game in Auburn Hills against the Pacers behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc49erfan15 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Thirty games for Artest is a slap on the wrist compared to what I wanted: Lifetime banishment. Ditto Jermaine O'Neal and Steven Jackson for twenty games. I expected Ben Wallace to be out for five games. That's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakwood Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Also, the Pistons should be required to play their next game in Auburn Hills against the Pacers behind closed doors. lol thats so soccer style, look at Roma. It would be interesting thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 The Players Union will definetely have something to say about this one.Ben Wallace started the entire thing -- if Ben Wallace doesn't overreact, and then rekindle the flames when they were beginning to die down, none of this happens.The players have a right to defend themselves when their safety is put in jeopardy. You come onto the court, you deserve anything you got. Somebody threw a chair at Jermaine O'Neal -- his safety most certainly was in jeopardy, at any point in that whole thing.I think every player involved should get 10 games, at the most. And if I were Ron Artest, I would look to press charges against the guy who originally threw the cup at me, atleast it might makes fans think before they do stupid things like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrodsep Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 If these are correct (I can't find confirmation, yet), look for the NBAPA to appeal on behalf of Artest, Jackson & O'Neal's suspensions being excessive. They are not excessive. If I jump a person and hit him like they did I would go to JAIL. So they must feel lucky that they only got that many games suspension. These players are priviledged, spoiled, overgrown Brats. Like my mom says don't do the crime if u can't do the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicfurth Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Artest should have to sit out the year. Other suspensions are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicfurth Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 hahaha this is really gonna hurt a fantasy owner with these guys... Except for me. I'm only out for one game, & I have Alonzo Mourning on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 And the "projected suspension" for the fan that threw the drink to Artest sparking the general fight? It's great to be young and a Giant! - Larry Doyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj32 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 If these are correct (I can't find confirmation, yet), look for the NBAPA to appeal on behalf of Artest, Jackson & O'Neal's suspensions being excessive. They are not excessive. If I jump a person and hit him like they did I would go to JAIL. So they must feel lucky that they only got that many games suspension. These players are priviledged, spoiled, overgrown Brats. Like my mom says don't do the crime if u can't do the time. They may still go to jail. Don't equate the NBA's disciplinary system with the American Judicial system - just because the NBA suspends them doesn't let them off the hook as far as possible criminal charges and civil suits.Don't argue to me about them being excessive - argue to the Players' Union. It's their job to defend the players, right or wrong.The precidents are as follows: Jumping into the stands to punch a fan: 10 games - Vernon Maxwell Throwing a punch and causing grievous physical injury: 60 days (26 games) - Kermit WashingtonArtest's past works against him, so while I think 72 games is excessive, I can see where that came from. Stephen Jackson getting 30 games is against precident, but he was the most aggressive as far as going after fans. O'Neal, to my knowledge, did not enter the stands but punched a fan/ballboy (I've heard both) on the court. If he did not go into the stands, I don't think he warrants a 25-game suspension. David Stern has succeeded in making the penalties excessive enough that even if the Players Association does file a grievance:1. The message has been sent - stay out of the stands2. These players are still going to miss plenty of gametime even if the NBAPA winsThe interesting thing that Stern did not address is what he is going to do about the Detroit fans. His statement refers to redefining "the bounds of acceptable conduct" and banning those who overstep those bounds. This had also better be tough or you will have "fans" trying to bait other team's stars into suspensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 The suspensions are too long, across the baord. I think they should all be reduced by 5 times. Divide them all by 5, and you have a realistic representation of what they did. If i was sitting at my desk at work, and a guy came in and threw a beer on my chest, i'd chace him down and punch him. If someone threw a bottle fo water across my cubical wall, Id get up out of my chair and pummel that fool. If someone stepped into my cubical and spit at me and called me names, i'd be sure to inflict some fist-induced damage to his visage.The fines should come to the Pistons arena (dont know the name) and its security. This incident will change the way fans watch games, folks. And it wont be pretty.This just confirms the horribleness that is the NBA.Bah to it all. NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi ΓΔΒ! Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 BTW.. the actual number are:Artest - SeasonJackson- 30O'Neal - 25Wallace - 6 NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi ΓΔΒ! Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj32 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 BTW BTW: Artest's season suspension includes postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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