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......as much as I hate the teams there, no sports city is better than Boston. The Red Sox and Celtics are two of the most historic franchises in all sports, the Bruins have a rich history as well, and the Pats have become the toast of the town due to those SB victories.

Worst sports city I would say is Oakland. Their sports stadiums suck, their teams (well at least the Raiders) suck, and the A's can't draw big crowds even when they're a winning team. And don't even mention the Warriors.

What are some of your thoughts?

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Best Sports City:

Boston, without a doubt. Went to a Celtics game last year, and everyone knows they were bad. Yet, that place was packed, and loud as all get out. That, and I can imagine how they are for Red Sox and Patriots games. They love their teams.

Worst Sports City:

IMO, Miami. If you ain't winnin, they ain't comin. Hell, if it ain't a playoff game, then they ain't comin. Judging from what I saw in the NBA Finals, they still had a lot of empty seats, and this is the NBA Finals. So yeah, I think it's Miami. Great city to live in, just not a hotbed for sports.

Honorable Mention: Atlanta, and just for the fact that 2 Sundays Alge Crumpler ago said that beating the Pittsburgh Steelers at home was "the best road win we've had in a while." There's so many fans of the other teams, and not enough fans of the home team here.

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I've been to Boston, and it's an awesome sports town. I'd say that Cleveland is up there too, along with Chicago, Toronto, and St. Louis. I don't think I can pick the best sports towns, because there are too many to choose from. New York is ok and I live pretty close to New York, however most of the fans here are spoiled jack***es and don't know anything about the teams. They just know players like Derek Jeter. Miami is the worst sports town I think. Exhibit A: Look at Marlins home games. Even in the playoffs and World Series, I don't think they sell out. They probably had some sell outs/near sell outs from '93-'95, but I doubt many since then. Now I know that they've had two firesales, but the Cubs are in the basement of their division quite a bit and Wrigley is always sold out. The Panthers get little support. I know they suck right now, but they get little support. As for the Heat, I think they've probably had a few sell outs here or there from back in the day. They were good in the 90's, but when the team was bad from around '01-'02-'04, the arena looked empty. The Dolphins seem to always get support though, mainly because they've been around the longest down there. Basically what I'm saying is that the fans of Miami are fickle (for the most part) and will usually only come to the games if the team is good and are not named the Dolphins because the 'Phins get good crowds. Atlanta is almost as bad as Miami IMO, but Thrashers and Falcons attendance seems to have risen dramatically, even though the Braves and Hawks play in empty arenas during the regular season.

EDIT: I typed this while ThaFlame answered, and I'm basically agree fully with him about the worst sports city.

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AN honest Atlanta fan I think Atlanta is the worst sports city they didn't sell out Braves playoff games, the Falcons never sold out until recently, the Hawks and Thrashers are in empty arenas.

New York I would say is the bets sports town because of our passion there no buzz like that in any of the stadiums which tickets are always hard to come by. The Knicks are not good yet they will be playing almost full Garden all year.

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I think it is a dead tie between Boston and New York.. even though I hate both the cities teams, I still respect their amazing fans.

and now to be brutally honest.

The worst sports City is.. Seattle. Yes. We have hardly any real tradition, about 95% of the population bandwagons on and off every team, and most people aren't too knowledgeable, and/or could careless about it. its really sad. I would say the one exception is UW and WSU.

sorry fellow Seattlites.. you know its true.

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Yes a thread to separate the Real FansĀ® from the Bandwagoners!

Hooray!

I won't join the party of bashing particular cities, because speaking from personal experience low fan support at the stadium doesn't always mean low fan support. Location and facility are a huge factor in attendance figures, especially in baseball (cough cough the Athletics and Marlins). Ex: the Marlins have pretty high TV ratings, the 2003 World Series outdrew the Heat's title run.

TFoA, there are few cities where people show up to watch a bad team. Miami isn't the only one. The Heat soldout all their NBA Finals games. The AAA holds 19,449 and they had 41 sellouts last season during the regular season.

http://tsn.palmbeachpost.com/default.asp?c...tendance115.htm

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AN honest Atlanta fan I think Atlanta is the worst sports city they didn't sell out Braves playoff games, the Falcons never sold out until recently, the Hawks and Thrashers are in empty arenas.

I will tell you why the Braves & Hawks play in front of empty arenas, or at least why I think:

Braves: Won the East for 14 years straight, and brought home only 1 World Series. Fans here got complacent, and figured "Hell, they're on TBS, FSN, and SportSouth all the time, why go to see them win, just to get prepared for yet another letdown?"

Hawks: They just suck.

The Thrashers have a rabid fanbase. That place is full or near full every night. Trust me on that one.

The Falcons are selling out because they're good, they play teams that the fairweather fans like to see (like Steelers this year, Patriots last year, and I know there's gonna be an assload of Cowboy fans on Dec. 16th), and Mike Vick.

TFoA, there are few cities where people show up to watch a bad team. Miami isn't the only one. The Heat soldout all their NBA Finals games. The AAA holds 19,449 and they had 41 sellouts last season during the regular season.

http://tsn.palmbeachpost.com/default.asp?c...tendance115.htm

Stats don't lie. Suprised me. But I could've sworn it looked a tad bit empty during the finals, I guess I must've been seeing things. But I suppose that'll change since they are the World Champs now.

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Coming from a completely objective Detroiter:

Despite what anyone says, Detroit is a bandwagon town. It was again made painfully obvious with this year's World Series run. Comerica Park was packed to the gills with scenesters who couldn't tell you who the third base coach was just last year, or even who played third base last year, for that matter. Newspapers and TV reports teemed with teenagers, twenty-something hipsters and 45 year old women claiming to be hardcore lifelong fans. But where were these people before this year? Why weren't they there the first half of this decade when the Tigers struggled to herd a mere 10,000 through the gates for a given game? Where were all the Tiger hats, jerseys and t-shirts in 2003? They weren't seen in the streets, bars or malls before this year. And those car flags...I don't remember ever seeing a Tigers car flag until a couple weeks ago.

Moving to the Wings...this is going to infuriate some, but IT ISN'T HOCKEYTOWN JUST BECAUSE A MARKETING TEAM THINKS IT UP AND PAINTS IT ON THE ICE. Why did Hockeytown need the lure of winning a new car to draw them to games during the Dead Things era? Just look up the attendance figures, it's all there in black and white. Same with the Pistons in the period between championship contention from the early '90s to a few years ago.

Detroit just doesn't show up to support a less than successful team...

...with the exception of the Lions. If anything, this is a football town. The Lions will sell out or come damn close to it almost every game, no matter how dreadful the team is--even in the days of the Silverdome, which had the largest capacity in the league and hosted the crappiest team most years. In the midst of any given 5-11 campaign, sports radio is flooded with callers who care deeply about the Lions. Just watch, if this team ever turns it around and wins a Super Bowl, this town will go ape :censored: in a manner 100 times more intense than any Stanley Cup or World Series celebration we've ever seen.

I know I'm gonna catch hell from my fellow Detroiters on the board, but look at the numbers and accept reality: With the exception of the Lions, this is a complete fair weather, bandwagon sports town.

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As far as game attendance goes Miami is horrible, but here's the catch. Miami is not a bad sports town. Everyone here LOVES sports...just they hate the home teams. Everyone is a fan of another team from somewhere else. New York, Boston, Philadelphia, New Jersey, Atlanta, and Chicago teams get more love in Florida than any of the Florida teams. Arenas only fill when a visiting team comes that everyone is rooting for. People don't go to games to see the home teams here. Once they make the championship, then it becomes a corporate event. At that point everyone wants to be a part of it, but prior to that people only care about the visiting teams. They're very knowledgable about sports, just not about anything Florida sports related.

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Coming from a completely objective Detroiter:

Despite what anyone says, Detroit is a bandwagon town. It was again made painfully obvious with this year's World Series run. Comerica Park was packed to the gills with scenesters who couldn't tell you who the third base coach was just last year, or even who played third base last year, for that matter. Newspapers and TV reports teemed with teenagers, twenty-something hipsters and 45 year old women claiming to be hardcore lifelong fans. But where were these people before this year? Why weren't they there the first half of this decade when the Tigers struggled to herd a mere 10,000 through the gates for a given game? Where were all the Tiger hats, jerseys and t-shirts in 2003? They weren't seen in the streets, bars or malls before this year. And those car flags...I don't remember ever seeing a Tigers car flag until a couple weeks ago.

Moving to the Wings...this is going to infuriate some, but IT ISN'T HOCKEYTOWN JUST BECAUSE A MARKETING TEAM THINKS IT UP AND PAINTS IT ON THE ICE. Why did Hockeytown need the lure of winning a new car to draw them to games during the Dead Things era? Just look up the attendance figures, it's all there in black and white. Same with the Pistons in the period between championship contention from the early '90s to a few years ago.

Detroit just doesn't show up to support a less than successful team...

...with the exception of the Lions. If anything, this is a football town. The Lions will sell out or come damn close to it almost every game, no matter how dreadful the team is--even in the days of the Silverdome, which had the largest capacity in the league and hosted the crappiest team most years. In the midst of any given 5-11 campaign, sports radio is flooded with callers who care deeply about the Lions. Just watch, if this team ever turns it around and wins a Super Bowl, this town will go ape :censored: in a manner 100 times more intense than any Stanley Cup or World Series celebration we've ever seen.

I know I'm gonna catch hell from my fellow Detroiters on the board, but look at the numbers and accept reality: With the exception of the Lions, this is a complete fair weather, bandwagon sports town.

i absolutely agree....i've been at tiger stadium and comerica park with crowds of less than 4000 when that was the norm....i've been to joe louis arena and olympia stadium with crowds of less than 2000 when that was the norm....hell, i've seen the pistons play at cobo hall and it seemed like a middle school basketball crowd. when the pistons played at the silverdome, the sound echoed so bad in that cavern due to lack of people there.

lions, though, i could never get a ticket to a game.....we love our lions, it's a fact.

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Milo Meningocele, your point reminds me of what is going on here in New Jersey. All of a sudden Rutgers fans are everywhere. Friends of mine talk about the team as if they supported them when they sucked (I know my friends and others never supported Rutgers when they sucked.) I even said to them why the hell are you a Rutgers fan all of a sudden. Where the hell were you in the 90's??

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The worst sports City is.. Seattle. Yes. We have hardly any real tradition, about 95% of the population bandwagons on and off every team, and most people aren't too knowledgeable, and/or could careless about it. its really sad. I would say the one exception is UW and WSU.

sorry fellow Seattlites.. you know its true.

im confirming that.

i hate how at school maybe 1 out of every 5 NFL football fans are Seahawk fans

same with the Mariners and Sonics

its horrible

no champion teams

and our good teams always find ways to blow it in the end (1996 Sonics, 2001 Mariners, 2006 Seahawks)

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Miami is pretty bad. Dolphins can't sell out playoff games (almost had a divisional game blacked out a few years ago) and the Marlins can't draw whether they're winning championships or winning 30 games more than expected. The seats were filled for the Finals though. I don't know where the idea came from that they weren't. Anyway, yeah, bad. Home town, but even I know it.

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The worst sports City is.. Seattle. Yes. We have hardly any real tradition, about 95% of the population bandwagons on and off every team, and most people aren't too knowledgeable, and/or could careless about it. its really sad. I would say the one exception is UW and WSU.

sorry fellow Seattlites.. you know its true.

im confirming that.

i hate how at school maybe 1 out of every 5 NFL football fans are Seahawk fans

same with the Mariners and Sonics

its horrible

no champion teams

and our good teams always find ways to blow it in the end (1996 Sonics, 2001 Mariners, 2006 Seahawks)

I disagree I think seattle is a great sports city. Quest field is always packed and loud, just ask the giants.

I only went to one marinners game, which was this year against the angles but the place was crowded. I was in the bleachers and there wern't any empty seats.

I have never been to a Soncis game(i hope to go to one this year though) and they hardly show sonics games in vancouver so im not sure how well they are supported, but when ever i go to seattle i see alot of people wearing sonics shirts and other sonics merchandise.

but ya the teams suck, they usally get close to a championship once every 10 years but they never win it.

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Best sports town is Chicago. We are almost too ravid for our own good. I remember distinctly the Tribune saying to stop supporting the bulls when they sucked because they had a full house for a Bulls Warriors game. I am not a Bears fan, but they are easily the most knowlageable in football. Most passerbys can name the backup left guard. The Blackhawks get decent crowds despite being unwatchable and kicking me in the nuts by the third week of every year. You really have to look hard to find the real fans though, because dollar Bill Wertz has killed the spirts of all but a few of them. The five White Sox fans in the area litterally bleed black and silver. And the fact that all the Cubs fans still give is the definition of devotion. Even a Cubs hateing Southsider has to say that they don't deserve that fate. Boston might say they have the best fans, but they also have a crazy big market, and consistantly successful teams (with the exception of the Red Sox, who are without a doubt, the best fans in baseball)

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Worst sports city I would say is Oakland. Their sports stadiums suck, their teams (well at least the Raiders) suck, and the A's can't draw big crowds even when they're a winning team. And don't even mention the Warriors.

What are some of your thoughts?

Thats gotta be the most rediculous thing ive ever........... Ahhh, nevermind. Im a homer so of course im going to think thats crazy.

But personally, I think Los Angeles is the worst sports town. Dodger fans are scum, Clippers fans, and even Lakers fans to an extent, are nonexistant, Hockey in LA is about as popular the guy who invented the computer monitor was in high school, and just hearing the words "Professional football in LA" makes me cringe.

But then again, theeres that Northern California homerism rearing its ugly head.

In all honesty, I think this is one of those questions that is nearly impossible for sports fans to answer logically.

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