2007-2008 NHL Logos & Uniforms

[Jhero]

"Our sticks will block out the lights!"

[capn89]

I'd still like to know what Senators from Ottawa and Romans have to do with each other... That has to be one of the biggest stretches in sports.

[capn89]

So I suppose this...

... keeps the possibilities of these...

...alive.

[Jhero]

I'm holding my breath... But maybe those pics are just really crappy since I know how NHL 2k8 graphics already screwed up on the sens jerseys in their trailers (screwed up REAL bad)

[SenatorJake]

I'd still like to know what Senators from Ottawa and Romans have to do with each other... That has to be one of the biggest stretches in sports.

Rome had a senate, which was unelected.

Ottawa has a senate, which is unelected.

But, yeah, it's still a stretch.

[zer0dotcom]

Another crappy market gets to keep their franchise.

Florida Hockey: Feel the Excitement

#3 attendance in the US, #8 overall in the NHL.

I'm sorry, you were saying...?

Tampa Bay was #3 in the NHL for total and average attendance last season

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2007

You were saying?

5 out of the 6 Canadian teams were in the top 10 and 6 out of 6 teams were in the top 20... And people still think another team in Canada is a bad idea?

Canadian teams won't get the NHL the big national TV deal that the NHL wants so badly

[VC//]

The only Canadian team with a stupid name, fine by me, i hate the Ottawa Senators...if they had a good name i'd acknowledge it, but the logo and name is a stretch.

Apparently Ottawa thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

[SenatorJake]

The only Canadian team with a stupid name, fine by me, i hate the Ottawa Senators...if they had a good name i'd acknowledge it, but the logo and name is a stretch.

Apparently Ottawa thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

Apparently Vancouver thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

[VC//]

Another crappy market gets to keep their franchise.

Florida Hockey: Feel the Excitement

#3 attendance in the US, #8 overall in the NHL.

I'm sorry, you were saying...?

Tampa Bay was #3 in the NHL for total and average attendance last season

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2007

You were saying?

5 out of the 6 Canadian teams were in the top 10 and 6 out of 6 teams were in the top 20... And people still think another team in Canada is a bad idea?

Canadian teams won't get the NHL the big national TV deal that the NHL wants so badly

Expanding to non-hockey markets won't help the NHL spread the sport to US cities that just don't find hockey all that appealing either. Bettman has tried to go to pretty much every BIG sports network in the US to beg them to sign a contract and show hockey...we had fox, abc, i think nbc, and espn all try to make hockey a sport that they promote like every other sport that they show on their networks. Did it work? Nope, will it work? A BIGGER NOPE.

Where does a big tv contract work? In Canada, where no matter what, on CBC on a saturday during hockey season, we get to see a hockey game, that's if your regional networks won't show it already. THe problem in the US is that the local networks won't even show the games for free half the time, you have to pay to see it, in Chicago it's even worse than that.

What Bettman seems to miss out on is that spending all this money to get big networks to get interested and excited about hockey will never work, not in the US, it has NEVER worked in the history of the NHL, it never will. But amazingly enough, american hockey fans still think it's a huge thing that needs to be done, you take the Canadian teams out of the NHL and the NHL is pretty much over...you do realize that right? The hockey markets in the US are a big help, but not as big as the 6 canadian teams, now i'm not saying this as a canadian, i'm saying this as a Hockey fan.

BTW...wasting money on the networks is a stupid idea, what Bettman should be looking into is a all hockey channel that all the teams would buy into and will show it's fans in their regional area...like a North American NHL channel type of thing, where in the off season, you can watch re-runs of the great games of the past season and playoff series of your local team, in the season, you can watch your team and any other hockey game on if your team isn't playing...an all day 24/7 hockey channel that's apart of the basic cable package would be massive for the NHL.

IN Canada, Sportsnet & CBC are apart of basic cable, at least here for me, headline sports is apart of the expanded package...and i'm not getting into digital cable or the dish. How is Hockey supposed to grow in the US if people can't see their local college hockey teams, or minor teams or even their NHL teams when it's on? Or even see the great battles the team used to have with another franchise, rivalries and etc, sure some fans are old enough to know and pass on to other fans the intense rivalries of the NHL, but not many know enough about the team to be aware of it, to totally be a fan of hockey.

I'm probably not even displaying my argument properly right now, too many other things on my mind (swamped with work)...but you get the gist of what i'm trying to say right?

[capn89]

The only Canadian team with a stupid name, fine by me, i hate the Ottawa Senators...if they had a good name i'd acknowledge it, but the logo and name is a stretch.

Apparently Ottawa thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

Apparently Vancouver thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

Apparently parents precisely protect preteens from perverts and predators... poop? Ahhh alliteration.

and

Apparently someone needs to have a seat right there...

[VC//]

The only Canadian team with a stupid name, fine by me, i hate the Ottawa Senators...if they had a good name i'd acknowledge it, but the logo and name is a stretch.

Apparently Ottawa thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

Apparently Vancouver thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

Vancouver's team is named Canucks...aside from Johnny Canuck (the lumberjack) being our logo at some point...how are people of Vancouver not Canucks? We're all Canucks actually (if you are a Canadian and understand what Canuck means). We aren't dilusional about being spartan warriors with our logo or whatever.

Oh and the forestry supports the Johnny Canuck logo for the lumberjack bit, forestry is still a huge industry in BC....or how about the skate and stick'n'rink? It's canadian to have a hockey skate, as well as a stick and rink...still fits in the whole "Canuck" bit...the whale? People have supported that it's as Vancouver as the other logo's (eventhough i hate it), plus the totem polls would support that argument if one were to argue for it (i don't want to argue for the whale, i hate it).

You lose.

And capn, i'm Bruce Wayne, i AM Batman, punk.

[Neon_Matrix]

The only Canadian team with a stupid name, fine by me, i hate the Ottawa Senators...if they had a good name i'd acknowledge it, but the logo and name is a stretch.

Apparently Ottawa thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

Apparently Vancouver thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

That had to be the WORST come back ever. It was not funny nor sarcastic. It just came across as stupid. Honestly, Vancouver does have much more of a history than Ottawa does. Maybe being two decades older may mean something, who knows. I mean, not a lot of events happen within two decades, right?

Those Canuck's screen shots are modded jerseys on our favourite over-used template, the ALL-STAR template!!! Although it is quite nice looking, I can see the final jersey being close in appearence to it with stick n' rinks on the shoulders and a re-coloured whale on the front like that. Otherwise, the jersey template most likely won't resemble that. I think this may be one of the more potentially accurate concepts posted on the board.

[SenatorJake]

So we have the Senators... (ie. government)

Fun fact: Did you know Ottawa is Canada's capital?

And don't give me that crap about how the Canucks' logo makes any sense, because it doesn't.

It never did

A rink & stick = A canadian person? That's a stretch.

An abstract looking hockey skate = A canadian person? That's a stretch

A frickin' whale = A canadian person? No, not by a longshot.

So there you go, neither logos make any sense. And our name isn't a rip-off of the Montreal Canadiens.

And we were in the league when it started and you guys weren't.

[capn89]

Wonder if anyone will see this

[VC//]

The only Canadian team with a stupid name, fine by me, i hate the Ottawa Senators...if they had a good name i'd acknowledge it, but the logo and name is a stretch.

Apparently Ottawa thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

Apparently Vancouver thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

That had to be the WORST come back ever. It was not funny nor sarcastic. It just came across as stupid. Honestly, Vancouver does have much more of a history than Ottawa does. Maybe being two decades older may mean something, who knows. I mean, not a lot of events happen within two decades, right?

Those Canuck's screen shots are modded jerseys on our favourite over-used template, the ALL-STAR template!!! Although it is quite nice looking, I can see the final jersey being close in appearence to it with stick n' rinks on the shoulders and a re-coloured whale on the front like that. Otherwise, the jersey template most likely won't resemble that. I think this may be one of the more potentially accurate concepts posted on the board.

Good to know some people pay attention to things...good stuff Neon Matrix.

I understand the whole Senators thing with the Parliament and the capital city bit, but adopting the whole Greek/Roman bit was just a touch of the lame to me.

How does Ottawa justify using a "Roman Legionary" as their logo? Yes, that's the official description of it.

[Legion]

Sens

Here's the "insider invite"- the new wordmark (copperplate-ish?) in the bottom right corner. Jersey is obviously red- any chance of a swoosh on that? Doubt it...I'm guessing the NHL version of the Atlanta Falcons.

[Neon_Matrix]

So we have the Senators... (ie. government)

Fun fact: Did you know Ottawa is Canada's capital?

And don't give me that crap about how the Canucks' logo makes any sense, because it doesn't.

It never did

A rink & stick = A canadian person? That's a stretch.

An abstract looking hockey skate = A canadian person? That's a stretch

A frickin' whale = A canadian person? No, not by a longshot.

So there you go, neither logos make any sense. And our name isn't a rip-off of the Montreal Canadiens.

And we were in the league when it started and you guys weren't.

Um... you may want to brush up on your Canadian politics there bud. We have "Senators" but our "Senators" do nothing. They are appointed to the upper house to sit and drink and drink some more. A sober second thought?? Pah, they wont ever not accept a bill that is trying to be passed by Parliament. Our Senate is a JOKE... which... when you think about... kind of describes the NHL team which, according to you, is named after. So because your name is "SenatorJake", is that because you are one of those appointed friends of the Prime Minister who is drinking wine bought with our tax dollars?

What does Ottawa having to be our Nation's Capital have to do with the team itself? It doesn't say anything except that it is located in a place where sports franchises are established only to die unless they are consistantly winners (CFL twice, Minor League Baseball, and NHL once and almost became twice). Your arguments suck just as much as your come back.

[VC//]

So we have the Senators... (ie. government)

Fun fact: Did you know Ottawa is Canada's capital?

And don't give me that crap about how the Canucks' logo makes any sense, because it doesn't.

It never did

A rink & stick = A canadian person? That's a stretch.

An abstract looking hockey skate = A canadian person? That's a stretch

A frickin' whale = A canadian person? No, not by a longshot.

So there you go, neither logos make any sense. And our name isn't a rip-off of the Montreal Canadiens.

And we were in the league when it started and you guys weren't.

You're an idiot, i felt you should know that.

A Canuck is a Canadian, now with that in mind, what can you design that represents being a Canuck or Canadian? Not as a person, but objects or imagery that can relate to being a Canadian? A hockey Stick? Check, A rink? Check...a Skate? Check...or how about they go...say more of a local history type of bit and look at what's around that's of any historic value, say a Totem pole with a killer whale/orca? Check...

Guess what, internet can actually be used to research things...cool eh? Not just for porn! (i know people, i'm as shocked as you are)...

The Random House Dictionary notes that: "The term Canuck is first recorded about 1835 as an Americanism, originally referring specifically to a French Canadian. This was probably the original meaning, though in Canada and other countries, Canuck now more often refers to any Canadian."

Another thing i want to shut people up about is the fact that Vancouver, when it was brought in to the NHL, was put in the East..now i don't know if you all understand this or not, but travelling from Vancouver to the East to play most of your games is extremely grueling, it is no wonder that they were a losing franchise from the start, but hey, get this, moment they are put into the Smythe, they start winning more...duh? Although that division was weak, Canucks did make the playoffs while being in that division and so forth, like plenty of other expansion franchises, they struggled at first. But the history of hockey in BC is as rich as any other province in Canada, not as much as some, but it's still a deep history.

Here's some more info...

The team has gone through several different logo and sweater changes in its history. One of their first sweaters is now worn on the occasional "vintage night"; a blue rink-shaped rectangle with a hockey stick in it forming the letter "C", designed by Joe Borovich of North Vancouver. A version of this logo is still in use, as a shoulder patch on the team's current jerseys, with the team's current colors.

In 1978, aiming for a more "aggressive" image, the team asked a psychologist to design them new uniforms. The new sweaters consisted of a huge yellow, red-orange, and black striped "V" coming down from the shoulders (suggesting "victory", according to its designer) which, depending on whom you ask, is usually considered to be either their best or (more commonly) worst sweater. This "Flying V" theme was abandoned in the mid-1980s to feature the team's emblem on the front rather than the "V" (the emblem had previously been worn only on the arms). The logo consisted of the word "Canucks" in a diagonal slant and is part of the blade of a skate. The logo, with its laser-like design, was sometimes referred to as the "Star Wars" logo, or, more commonly, the "Flying Skate" or "Plate of Spaghetti". Eventually the yellow home jerseys were scrapped in 1989 in favour of more conventional white ones, and the triangular shoulder stripes which adorned the post-"V" jerseys were discarded at the same time. The new incarnation was worn from 1989-92, when a subtle change was made ? and went largely unnoticed for the rest of the jersey's lifespan. The orange was switched to red, and the deep "gold" color was changed to a much brighter yellow, reportedly because jersey-maker CCM no longer produced the required hues. Actor Martin Lawrence once wore this edition of the Vancouver jersey during an episode of his 1990s sitcom, Martin. In the early 90's a "third" jersey was used, retaining the "Downward Skate" logo, but using a Salmon color graduating to black near the bottom.

In 1997 the Canucks unveiled their new logo, in which a Haida-style killer whale (or orca) breaking out of a patch of ice forms a stylized "C". The logo has been much-maligned, accused of being a blatant reference to their parent company, Orca Bay. At the time, GM Pat Quinn discussed wanting to have a west-coast color scheme, and overall west-coast themes in the logo; the new color scheme includes blue, red and silver/white. In the late 1990s a new "third" jersey was utilized, with contrasting shoulder patches and a blue-to-maroon graduated color in the body. In 2006 the Canucks officially abandoned their gradient red alternate jerseys and replaced them with the popular retro stick and rink blue uniforms from the 1970s. Little more than halfway through the 2006-07 season, the Canucks announced that they will be changing their jerseys once again; while a report, in February of 2007, suggested the new scheme would be revealed on August 1, 2007, it has since been confirmed by Orca Bay President, Chris Zimmerman, that the new duds would actually see the light of day closer to training camp in September [4]. However, in an interview with the TEAM 1040, Canucks GM Dave Nonis said the logo next year will be the orca logo, not the vintage logo or the Johnny Canuck logo.

[SenatorJake]

The only Canadian team with a stupid name, fine by me, i hate the Ottawa Senators...if they had a good name i'd acknowledge it, but the logo and name is a stretch.

Apparently Ottawa thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

Apparently Vancouver thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

That had to be the WORST come back ever. It was not funny nor sarcastic. It just came across as stupid. Honestly, Vancouver does have much more of a history than Ottawa does. Maybe being two decades older may mean something, who knows. I mean, not a lot of events happen within two decades, right?

Those Canuck's screen shots are modded jerseys on our favourite over-used template, the ALL-STAR template!!! Although it is quite nice looking, I can see the final jersey being close in appearence to it with stick n' rinks on the shoulders and a re-coloured whale on the front like that. Otherwise, the jersey template most likely won't resemble that. I think this may be one of the more potentially accurate concepts posted on the board.

Good to know some people pay attention to things...good stuff Neon Matrix.

I understand the whole Senators thing with the Parliament and the capital city bit, but adopting the whole Greek/Roman bit was just a touch of the lame to me.

How does Ottawa justify using a "Roman Legionary" as their logo? Yes, that's the official description of it.

Listen, I don't like the logo either.

There isn't one canadian team out there that has a nice logo.

[Neon_Matrix]

The only Canadian team with a stupid name, fine by me, i hate the Ottawa Senators...if they had a good name i'd acknowledge it, but the logo and name is a stretch.

Apparently Ottawa thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

Apparently Vancouver thinks it has a history that no one else knows about.

That had to be the WORST come back ever. It was not funny nor sarcastic. It just came across as stupid. Honestly, Vancouver does have much more of a history than Ottawa does. Maybe being two decades older may mean something, who knows. I mean, not a lot of events happen within two decades, right?

Those Canuck's screen shots are modded jerseys on our favourite over-used template, the ALL-STAR template!!! Although it is quite nice looking, I can see the final jersey being close in appearence to it with stick n' rinks on the shoulders and a re-coloured whale on the front like that. Otherwise, the jersey template most likely won't resemble that. I think this may be one of the more potentially accurate concepts posted on the board.

Good to know some people pay attention to things...good stuff Neon Matrix.

I understand the whole Senators thing with the Parliament and the capital city bit, but adopting the whole Greek/Roman bit was just a touch of the lame to me.

How does Ottawa justify using a "Roman Legionary" as their logo? Yes, that's the official description of it.

Listen, I don't like the logo either.

There isn't one canadian team out there that has a nice logo.

Montreal? Edmonton? Calgary? Toronto?

What the hell are you on?