scottysprings Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I for one like the Yankees. So take that all you haters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 "Aw, Burnett's a prick. He can turn the double play himself for all I care.""Well, I was gonna ground out to third, but Millar bought everyone pizza today. I'm gonna bat him in!" ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmee Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 To the OP... deal with it. Tell your favorite team's owner to invest more in the team and stop whining about what George Steinbrenner does with his money. When he bought the Yankees, the team was in shambles. He's turned them into the biggest sporting property on the globe by being the most dedicated owner in sports.Those who cite the size of the New York market forget that the Yankees contend with the Mets, Knicks, Nets, Rangers, Devils, Islanders, Giants, Jets, Cyclones, Staten Island Yankees, LI Ducks, Red Bulls, Broadway, and the best concert scene in the world for the public's entertainment dollars.Entice more people to move to your city. Go to more games, buy more merchandise, and then maybe your team will spend more money than it does now. In the meantime, do not begrudge the Yankees their success. Jealousy is a very unattractive trait. The world's foremost practitioners of professional tag-team wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 "Aw, Burnett's a prick. He can turn the double play himself for all I care.""Well, I was gonna ground out to third, but Millar bought everyone pizza today. I'm gonna bat him in!"Is this your example of there not being team chemistry? If so, I meant in the whole MLB. Team chemistry is legit. 1/27/09- It was me, and I am sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Hypotheticals to illustrate how everyone's roles are specialized and isolated enough that the players' respective personalities are irrelevant. If liking or disliking your teammates affects the way you're playing baseball, you're not playing it at its highest level. You pitch, hit, field, and run to the best of your ability or you're outta here. Let's say you're at second. Grounder comes up the middle. Doesn't matter who's at short, you turn the double play. Let's say it's noted do-gooder David Eckstein. Does this make you work harder to turn the double play? That means that for anyone less, you're not trying your hardest. If it's some dickhole, do you let it roll into shallow center? Not if you want to play in the bigs. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Since when is team chemistry not a part of baseball? Let's hear some examples of how team chemistry does not exist in baseball. Do you have any for team chemistry? None for team chemistry? I think it does exist.It's more limited than in other sports, though. Think about it. At its heart, this "team" sport is one guy swinging a bat in an effort to hit a ball thrown by another player. Where is the chemistry in that? On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieRose Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Oh-bla-di, Oh-bla-da, life goes on.I do agree that a salary cap should be in place. This is from a die-hard fan of the 2nd biggest payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Oh-bla-di, Oh-bla-da, life goes on.I do agree that a salary cap should be in place. This is from a die-hard fan of the 2nd biggest payroll.You're a Tigers fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieRose Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Oh-bla-di, Oh-bla-da, life goes on.I do agree that a salary cap should be in place. This is from a die-hard fan of the 2nd biggest payroll.You're a Tigers fan?Woah when did that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFoA Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Oh-bla-di, Oh-bla-da, life goes on.I do agree that a salary cap should be in place. This is from a die-hard fan of the 2nd biggest payroll.You're a Tigers fan?Woah when did that happen?Last year when they went on THEIR buying/trading spree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Oh-bla-di, Oh-bla-da, life goes on.I do agree that a salary cap should be in place. This is from a die-hard fan of the 2nd biggest payroll.You're a Tigers fan?Woah when did that happen?Last season. Mets were third, Sox were fourth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieRose Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Oh-bla-di, Oh-bla-da, life goes on.I do agree that a salary cap should be in place. This is from a die-hard fan of the 4th biggest payroll.You're a Tigers fan?Woah when did that happen?Last season. Mets were third, Sox were fourth!Well I live under a rock, fixed it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 The Onion was only off by six yearsYankees Ensure 2003 Pennant By Signing Every Player In Baseball www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Oh-bla-di, Oh-bla-da, life goes on.I do agree that a salary cap should be in place. This is from a die-hard fan of the 4th biggest payroll.You're a Tigers fan?Woah when did that happen?Last season. Mets were third, Sox were fourth!Well I live under a rock, fixed it though.But now it looks like I was wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL FANATIC Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Hypotheticals to illustrate how everyone's roles are specialized and isolated enough that the players' respective personalities are irrelevant. If liking or disliking your teammates affects the way you're playing baseball, you're not playing it at its highest level. You pitch, hit, field, and run to the best of your ability or you're outta here. Let's say you're at second. Grounder comes up the middle. Doesn't matter who's at short, you turn the double play. Let's say it's noted do-gooder David Eckstein. Does this make you work harder to turn the double play? That means that for anyone less, you're not trying your hardest. If it's some dickhole, do you let it roll into shallow center? Not if you want to play in the bigs.Do you believe that some guys step up their play in big moments (I'm not gonna get into "clutch" necessarily..)? Or whether their play steps up, step up their effort? Can rivalries or playoffs really bring out the best in some guys?I think that is absolutely the case. But are those players not fit for the big leagues because they aren't always at their absolute best?Heck no.Almost all players give it their all and play as best they can period, but subconsciously, psychologically, whatever you will, players improve when they're comfortable and/or when the meaning of a game is significant.And there is no shame in that.Team chemistry ABSOLUTELY exists. JUSTIN STRIEBEL | PORTFOLIO | RESUME | CONTACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieRose Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 The Onion was only off by six yearsYankees Ensure 2003 Pennant By Signing Every Player In BaseballThat just made my life, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Team chemistry ABSOLUTELY exists.The Charlie O A's hated each other's guts and won world championships. Clearly they were unencumbered by lack of "team chemistry" and chose to instead do their assembly-line roles really really well.I'll entertain arguments for team chemistry in basketball, and even make them, because it depends on interplay and communication and individuals working together and all that. Baseball's an assembly line, though. You get up there and plate the runners whether you like 'em or not. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL FANATIC Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I'd also like to add in this thread a much shorter version of what I posted in the other thread.My problem with the Yankees crazy spending isn't that they're going to dominate the league. History shows that's no guarantee. Perhaps it's not even likely.But they're "sign at all costs" mantra drives up the prices of every good player and it sure makes it hell on the teams that can't afford an unlimited budget to sign their stars.This contract combined with A-Rod's makes Albert Pujols' value about $35 million a year. But who, outside of the Yankees and Red Sox, can afford to give him that?The only good news is that by giving Tex this deal with no opt-out and a no-trade the Yankees won't be in the market for a 1B anytime soon. JUSTIN STRIEBEL | PORTFOLIO | RESUME | CONTACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL FANATIC Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Team chemistry ABSOLUTELY exists.The Charlie O A's hated each other's guts and won world championships. Clearly they were unencumbered by lack of "team chemistry" and chose to instead do their assembly-line roles really really well.Well fantastic. Of course that can happen.Would you at least agree that a certain team chemistry exists in basketball? Shaq and Kobe hated each other and were unstoppable together.But that doesn't mean good chemistry doesn't make a team better. JUSTIN STRIEBEL | PORTFOLIO | RESUME | CONTACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 It doesn't mean it does, either. I'm very confident in saying there's no clear causal relationship between getting along with your teammates and winning. Some players get along. Some don't. I can't quantify how it affects play. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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