Oregon State penalized for orange jerseys in Sun Bowl

[nmsuaggie]

Today I went to the Sun Bowl and now Oregon State lost a timeout for wearing orange jerseys when the took on Pitt. Is it me or the NCAA should look into changing the rules and allowing two teams to be able to wear dark jerseys if they are both distinguishable between each other?

[dennisbergan]

Both teams should have been penalized, for putting on one of the most boring bowl games in the history of football.

Good ole' Wannstadt and Matt Cavenaugh haven't lost their touch, for playing mind-numbingly boring football.

[KJTALBOT]

At least the lighting was spactacular.

[NJTank]

Today I went to the Sun Bowl and now Oregon State lost a timeout for wearing orange jerseys when the took on Pitt. Is it me or the NCAA should look into changing the rules and allowing two teams to be able to wear dark jerseys if they are both distinguishable between each other?

You went to that game

You have my symnpathy

[DelayedPenalty]

Today I went to the Sun Bowl and now Oregon State lost a timeout for wearing orange jerseys when the took on Pitt. Is it me or the NCAA should look into changing the rules and allowing two teams to be able to wear dark jerseys if they are both distinguishable between each other?

Big friggin whoop what color each team wears. As long as you can tell them apart then I say let them play. Do teams ever even use all three first half timeouts? Especially in a 3-0 game, I don't think it matters much.

[The Danimal]

Actually, the NCAA needs to make the penalty for not wearing the correct jersey much more severe than just the loss of a first half time-out.

What happens if Notre Dame is hosting Navy and Navy decides to show up in their navy blue jerseys?

I'd grant a "grandfathering" in for the USC/UCLA game. But in any other case, a team should be penalized with a forfeit if they intentionally wear dark jerseys when they're supposed to wear white.

[nmsuaggie]

Today I went to the Sun Bowl and now Oregon State lost a timeout for wearing orange jerseys when the took on Pitt. Is it me or the NCAA should look into changing the rules and allowing two teams to be able to wear dark jerseys if they are both distinguishable between each other?

You went to that game

You have my symnpathy

Thanks for the sympathy, the only highlight to the game was having the Village People perform the YMCA at halftime to lead the crowd at breaking the Guinness Book of World Record of the largest crowd doing that dance.

[DEAD!]

I think Clemson should get a penalty for wearing an all-orange ensemble at whatever bowl they are playing right now: Gator Bowl, I think.

[Arts11]

Actually, the NCAA needs to make the penalty for not wearing the correct jersey much more severe than just the loss of a first half time-out.

What happens if Notre Dame is hosting Navy and Navy decides to show up in their navy blue jerseys?

I'd grant a "grandfathering" in for the USC/UCLA game. But in any other case, a team should be penalized with a forfeit if they intentionally wear dark jerseys when they're supposed to wear white.

That's probably a bit extreme. I mean, I would think teams would have more sense than that to avoid wearing colors that are that similar to each other.

[The Danimal]

That's probably a bit extreme. I mean, I would think teams would have more sense than that to avoid wearing colors that are that similar to each other.

That depends on whether or not you think your team would benefit from the confusion.

A small-time school playing on the road against a powerhouse might think so...

[Arts11]

That's probably a bit extreme. I mean, I would think teams would have more sense than that to avoid wearing colors that are that similar to each other.

That depends on whether or not you think your team would benefit from the confusion.

A small-time school playing on the road against a powerhouse might think so...

Kinda works both ways doesnt it? The small-time school could get just as confused.

[illwauk]

I wish the NCAA (ALL U.S. sports really... college and pro) would go the European soccer/football route and have a "primary" and "clash" uniform instead of a home dark and road white. As long as you can tell the difference, does it really matter that one team isn't wearing white?

[The Danimal]

As long as you can tell the difference, does it really matter that one team isn't wearing white?

White is the best choice for making sure people (both players and fans) can tell the difference. Not all people have the same level of color recognition as others - some are totally colorblind but a surprising number of people can see color but have trouble distinguishing between certain colors. A white jersey works to solve this problem because it's not just the color but the contrast.

Think about a photo in black-and-white. A photo of a team in red vs. a team in blue would result in a bunch of guys wearing identical gray.

So basically, it's not broke so don't fix it. White vs. Dark is the best way and teams should not be allowed to show up wearing any jersey they want. I expect the NCAA to put an end to this in the next couple of years.

[bmoore]

I wish the NCAA (ALL U.S. sports really... college and pro) would go the European soccer/football route and have a "primary" and "clash" uniform instead of a home dark and road white. As long as you can tell the difference, does it really matter that one team isn't wearing white?

I like this idea, the only problem is that American teams wear alternates/throwbacks so often it would be hard for the visitors to know what to pack. For this to work the home team would have to declare what they are wearing prior to the game.

[crashcarson15]

I wish the NCAA (ALL U.S. sports really... college and pro) would go the European soccer/football route and have a "primary" and "clash" uniform instead of a home dark and road white. As long as you can tell the difference, does it really matter that one team isn't wearing white?

I like this idea, the only problem is that American teams wear alternates/throwbacks so often it would be hard for the visitors to know what to pack. For this to work the home team would have to declare what they are wearing prior to the game.

One, visiting teams almost always pack both sets of uniforms.

Two, the NFL makes you do this before the season, and all of the NHL 3rds are already mapped out (see icethetics for info).

[Buffalo]

The orange vs. navy looks great!!!

[illwauk]

As long as you can tell the difference, does it really matter that one team isn't wearing white?

White is the best choice for making sure people (both players and fans) can tell the difference. Not all people have the same level of color recognition as others - some are totally colorblind but a surprising number of people can see color but have trouble distinguishing between certain colors. A white jersey works to solve this problem because it's not just the color but the contrast.

Think about a photo in black-and-white. A photo of a team in red vs. a team in blue would result in a bunch of guys wearing identical gray.

So basically, it's not broke so don't fix it. White vs. Dark is the best way and teams should not be allowed to show up wearing any jersey they want. I expect the NCAA to put an end to this in the next couple of years.

My scenario assumes that there's enough contrast between the dark jerseys for this to work. I wouldn't be in favor of UCLA showing up in Ann Arbor in their dark jerseys... even if the Bruins shade of blue is significantly lighter than the Wolverines. Besides, nowadays there enough crazy templates that black/white photos shouldn't be as much of an issue either.

[DelayedPenalty]

The orange vs. navy looks great!!!

Oh god, I can't tell them apart! Two dark jerseys!!!

[BBTV]

Dark vs. dark just looks like low-budget JV teams that can't afford two jersey sets are playing against each other. It looks cheap, like stripeless pants, which have become the standard collegiate look. That being said, I guess I'm OK with it in college, but would hate to see it in the NFL. White vs. color just looks very professional, as opposed to the amateur pics that have been posted in this thread.

[hawk36]

Dark vs. dark just looks like low-budget JV teams that can't afford two jersey sets are playing against each other. It looks cheap, like stripeless pants, which have become the standard collegiate look. That being said, I guess I'm OK with it in college, but would hate to see it in the NFL. White vs. color just looks very professional, as opposed to the amateur pics that have been posted in this thread.

Hey I'm not the biggest fan of the Pitt uniforms but I'd put them at least in the High School Varsity category

On the other hand, the OSU unis are GREAT except for the helmet. Put their interlocking letter logo on there instead of the wordmark cartoon and I'd love it.