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I can't say this is much of a surprise. The real shocker would have been if he'd been allowed to be part of the ownership group. I know a lot of the Limbaugh fans around here and across the country will blame the media and liberals for derailing Limbaugh on this deal. To them I would ask that they read the following and then tell me that the media and liberals were the reasons that a league that is 60% black didn't want this guy as an owner...

Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.
They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?
Take that bone out of your nose and call me back(to an African American female caller).

This one he did to himself.

 

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I'm just wondering: After all this Limbaugh hubbub, what is Checketts left to do? Does he still pursue the team and find other investors? When will we know if the league approves Checketts' bid?

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Well no Checketts the Rams could be singing California Here I come, RIGHT BACK where I started from.

Cleveland doesn't need another team right now

I'm sure they'd love a pro team. Too bad the Rams don't qualify as one.

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I can't say this is much of a surprise. The real shocker would have been if he'd been allowed to be part of the ownership group. I know a lot of the Limbaugh fans around here and across the country will blame the media and liberals for derailing Limbaugh on this deal. To them I would ask that they read the following and then tell me that the media and liberals were the reasons that a league that is 60% black didn't want this guy as an owner...

Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.
Theyre 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?
Take that bone out of your nose and call me back(to an African American female caller).
I mean, lets face it, we didnt have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. Im not saying we should bring it back; Im just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.

This one he did to himself.

The only difference between Rush and his opposers is that Rush's "away from the field" thoughts and comments are broadcast over the airwaves, where everyone can hear them. Do we really know more about Rush's life away from the radio station than we do about an NFL player's life (or any other athlete, for that matter) away from the football field?

Vick was fighting dogs for years, and none of his teammates knew what Vick was doing when he wasn't playing football. There are probably a ton of other stories and lives that players and athletes are hiding from their owners. It's also very likely that these same players have made similar shock-value comments that they make on a regular basis....they just aren't making them broadcast on radio or TV.

And really....should players such as Leonard Little and Vick really be ones giving their take on morals and ethics and such?

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The only difference between Rush and his opposers is that Rush's "away from the field" thoughts and comments are broadcast over the airwaves, where everyone can hear them.

Even if that's true, that's kind of a big difference.

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The only difference between Rush and his opposers is that Rush's "away from the field" thoughts and comments are broadcast over the airwaves, where everyone can hear them.

Even if that's true, that's kind of a big difference.

Exactly. No one despises Rush Limbaugh as much as I do. That said, I think if the guy has the money and he wants to buy a team he should be allowed to. I understand why he says the things he says. His job is to get people to listen to his show and he does it very well. It's precisely why he's in the position to buy an NFL team. The reality however is that a league as image conscious as the NFL is these days is not about to go through the PR nightmare that would result from selling the Rams to a group that includes Limbaugh. And for what it's worth, if any NFL owner said publicly what Limbaugh has said over the air he'd be run out of the league. Just ask Marge Schott.

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However, in an uncapped world, the local revenue would become a MUCH bigger factor. We're talking stadium revenue (which can be a HUGE deal), and other local TV / Radio / advertising / affiliation deals. Obviously, this is where the teams with good (and newer) stadium deals, and the large market teams are going to pull away from the pack.

In an uncapped world, while the structure of the contracts is likely to change significantly, the value is also likely to change - the desired players will make far more than they currently do. The NFC East teams, as well as the other big market / big money / new stadium teams will be in position to be the Yankees / Red Sox of NFL.

I think an uncapped NFL could shipwreck the entire league long term. Fans of teams that know they're out of it in week one will bail, refusing to spend money on a nearly guaranteed loser. Suddenly the NFL becomes a league of ten teams that might actually win the Super Bowl, and twenty that are happy to have half-empty stadiums, tailgates and jersey sales just to still belong to the club and make what ever cash they can. Goodell and his henchmen are so blinded by the obvious power his league has over the others they just assume it's eternal. And I didn't care for Paul Tagliabue :rolleyes: . I would shut the whole thing down for a year to negotiate, rather than open the worst jar of flies they'll never be able to screw the cap on (pun intended).

I'd rather Dallas lose in a capped system then outspend everyone else and turn into the Yankees. It's called the greater good, right?

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The only difference between Rush and his opposers is that Rush's "away from the field" thoughts and comments are broadcast over the airwaves, where everyone can hear them.

Even if that's true, that's kind of a big difference.

It's also Rush's job to be outspoken and voice his thoughts and opinions in a manner to where it sparks controversy and opposition.

Rush has his supporters, but he's gotta be doing something right to have his opposers continually listening and voicing their disagreements. Hell, folks here that say "I don't like Rush" frequently quote him, or listen to his show so they can post what he said on his radio show.

Talk radio gets boring if you have no opinion about anything, and the vast majority of your callers simply say "I agree". In essence, Rush is an entertainer, and he entertains in a way that creates the most publicity for him, whether it be positive or negative. He may not even support half the things he says, but if it gains listenership...he'll follow the money.

That's why I think he could be a successful owner: He's got the passion that fans would like to have in an owner, and the guy is financially successful even when many people don't agree with him. Yeah, he says dumb things, but he possibly be any more of a "black eye" to the NFL than what Vick, Little, Burress, Tom Cable, and others have been?

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What's that you always say Hedley? "Life's not fair?" :D

I think most folks are confused as to why Rush would/wouldn't be a good owner. From what I've read and heard, most folks feel Rush wouldn't be a good owner because they don't agree with his views on politics....which sounds like a dumb reason to me. Who's to say his political views aren't mirroing the likes of Jerry Jones or Arthur Blank or Robert Kraft?

I can't speak about Rush's views on race because I've never cared to listen to his show. I'm sure a lot of his quotes on here are taken out of context, such as the line about why he shouldn't care about black people because they only make up 12% of the US population.

All I'm saying is that Rush couldn't be any more of a PR nightmare than what other coaches, players, and owners have recently done...whether it be shooting yourself in the leg, punching an assistant coach, etc.

I don't agree with Rush's politics, but I can certainly see him being a successful owner of an NFL team. However, how much of a talking mouthpiece would a minority owner have to begin with?

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That passion does you absolutely no flippin' good if you can't afford to sign talent in a salary cap world. Or are of (relatively) limited financial means like Checketts is. I could easily foresee contract negotiations with a Rush owned teams resulting in players demanding a million or two more in "premium" money to deal with the "hardship" of playing for a team owned by a race-baiting demagogue. The Rams already have to pay premium money to middling and lower players (and have no chance at good players) because St. Louis is a media black hole when it comes to football.

I haven't seen anything about Rams players going public about their opinions one way or the other, granted they are typically ignored in St. Louis anyway. Which is why Little still plays for the Rams.

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I think most folks are confused as to why Rush would/wouldn't be a good owner. From what I've read and heard, most folks feel Rush wouldn't be a good owner because they don't agree with his views on politics....which sounds like a dumb reason to me.

No, they feel he wouldn't be a good owner because many players have spoken out about not wanting to play for a man whose remarks, "in character" or not, are thought to stop just short of hate speech. The Rams can ill afford to further prevent themselves from amassing talent.

However, how much of a talking mouthpiece would a minority owner have to begin with?

Well, in this instance, he'd have a nationally syndicated radio program, so...

EDIT: also, lol at having to refer to Rush as a "minority owner." AWKwarrrrrrrrrrd

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I haven't seen anything about Rams players going public about their opinions one way or the other, granted they are typically ignored in St. Louis anyway. Which is why Little still plays for the Rams.

Granted, I was listening to a local sports show, but a few Rams players were asked about Rush. One said something like "That guy on the radio?", another said "I'm not going to talk about it, because I'll say something I'll regret", and one said "We got more things to worry about than who the owner is."....

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I haven't seen anything about Rams players going public about their opinions one way or the other, granted they are typically ignored in St. Louis anyway. Which is why Little still plays for the Rams.

See also: Incognito, Richie. A player actively hates the fans of his team, and continues to get paid to do so, and to play poorly. If that isn't overwhelming apathy on both sides, I don't know what is.

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What I don't really get about the whole Limbaugh/Rams deal is it doesn't seem like he was that big a part of the package. So what was he doing there? Was he just a headline grabbing to get some publicity for the takeover attempt? If so it seems like he did his job.

I still think the problem with Limbaugh as part of an ownership group is not his politics, it is his ego. Yeah a lot of owners have huge egos, but not so many of them have a nationally syndicated radio show. I think all that this whole episode has achieved in the end is another enemy for Limbaugh, in the NFL.

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