IceCap Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I figured this was going to get a topic eventually, so here it is. It seems like there's a very real prospect for a lockout to cancel the 2011 NFL season, and the 2010 season will be played without a salary cap. Thoughts? Comments? Speculation? UFL golden years? PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korbyn Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 UFL golden years? CFL GOLDEN YEARS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 Here's hoping PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Lots of posturing. Lots of threats. Deal gets done. Everyone can relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 If there's one thing the NFL Players' Union does well, it's rolling over and giving in to owners' wishes. The players will get some sort of token gesture, the owners will get everything they really want, play will go on uninterrupted, and somewhere, Gene Upshaw will be smiling. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB61 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 SHANE FALCO FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Doe this mean we will get The Replacements part 2? The first left us with so many questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 If there is a lockout in 2011, how would this work stoppage affect the other professional leagues (MLB, MLS, NBA, NHL, etc.)? Would fans of the NFL pay attention to other local teams or just wouldn't care about other sports? Wouldn't a lockout in America's biggest sport serve notice to the owners and players of the other professional leagues to take a closer look at the CBAs so that they do not experience similar problems (again)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 If there is a lockout in 2011, how would this work stoppage affect the other professional leagues (MLB, MLS, NBA, NHL, etc.)? Would fans of the NFL pay attention to other local teams or just wouldn't care about other sports? Gosh, I don't know. Can people follow more than one sport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quantum Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 My guess is that a last hour agreement will be hammered out. If a lockout does occur, most fans will just find something else to do until their favorite sport is back. Some will focus on the baseball playoff run. What won't happen, based on the last strike/lockout, is fans adopting an interest in a new sport or interest in an inferior product. "One of my concerns is shysters show up and take advantage of people's good will and generosity". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy! Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Lockout? Not if Clifford Franklin has anything to say about it. Really? People actually think the most successfully run professional sport in the last 20 years might have a lockout? It'll never happen. "I secretly hope people like that hydroplane into a wall." - Dennis "Big Sexy" Ittner POTD - 7/3/14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac the Knife Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Guys, while like you all I'm hopeful that a deal will be struck, the more I read into the particulars the more I think there's going to be both an uncapped year in 2010 and a 'work stoppage' the following year.Roger Goodell has been unusually cagey in his responses to questions on the subject, implying as delicately as possible that the league and the NFLPA are far apart on a number of substantive issues. DeMaurice Smith (NFLPA XD) on the other hand is saying even less, but what he is saying leads me to believe that these guys are barely even talking with one another.Could it be posturing? Of course. I'm hopeful that it is. An uncapped year in 2010 would be disastrous for some (imagine Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones with open checkbooks, and the likes of Mike Brown and the Bidwills pulling out nothing but the lining in their pockets), and hopefully it won't come to that - if it does however, look for both sides to barricade themselves into their negotiating positions and not budge... and if that happens, oh boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer15 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 UFL golden years? CFL GOLDEN YEARS!that's what i'm saying! GTA United(USA) 2015 + 2016 USA Champions/Toronto Maroons (ULL)2014, 2015 + 2022 Gait Cup Champions/Toronto Northmen (TNFF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrySmalls Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Guys, while like you all I'm hopeful that a deal will be struck, the more I read into the particulars the more I think there's going to be both an uncapped year in 2010 and a 'work stoppage' the following year.Roger Goodell has been unusually cagey in his responses to questions on the subject, implying as delicately as possible that the league and the NFLPA are far apart on a number of substantive issues. DeMaurice Smith (NFLPA XD) on the other hand is saying even less, but what he is saying leads me to believe that these guys are barely even talking with one another.Could it be posturing? Of course. I'm hopeful that it is. An uncapped year in 2010 would be disastrous for some (imagine Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones with open checkbooks, and the likes of Mike Brown and the Bidwills pulling out nothing but the lining in their pockets), and hopefully it won't come to that - if it does however, look for both sides to barricade themselves into their negotiating positions and not budge... and if that happens, oh boy.Well Snyder and Jones have had open checkbooks the last couple of seasons and how many Super Bowls have they combined to win? Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy! Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Guys, while like you all I'm hopeful that a deal will be struck, the more I read into the particulars the more I think there's going to be both an uncapped year in 2010 and a 'work stoppage' the following year.Roger Goodell has been unusually cagey in his responses to questions on the subject, implying as delicately as possible that the league and the NFLPA are far apart on a number of substantive issues. DeMaurice Smith (NFLPA XD) on the other hand is saying even less, but what he is saying leads me to believe that these guys are barely even talking with one another.Could it be posturing? Of course. I'm hopeful that it is. An uncapped year in 2010 would be disastrous for some (imagine Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones with open checkbooks, and the likes of Mike Brown and the Bidwills pulling out nothing but the lining in their pockets), and hopefully it won't come to that - if it does however, look for both sides to barricade themselves into their negotiating positions and not budge... and if that happens, oh boy.Well Snyder and Jones have had open checkbooks the last couple of seasons and how many Super Bowls have they combined to win? Zero.....and the scab season of '87 wasn't that terrible. "I secretly hope people like that hydroplane into a wall." - Dennis "Big Sexy" Ittner POTD - 7/3/14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 The cap is so high now, that it basically is uncapped (though with the uncapped year, the contracts would likely be structured differently, as opposed to high bonus / low salary.)Also, it's not really "uncapped". It still favors non-playoff teams. I'm not sure the actual rule, but I know that there is some reason why the good teams will be at a slight disadvantage. Either way, the NFC East (and half of the AFC East) will just sign everybody.It really doesn't matter though - there is ZERO chance that this will happen. None. Both sides have to know what a good thing they have going, and I can't believe that either side wants to risk a stoppage. Of course the commissioner and PA head are going to sound pessimistic, but I'd bet that this deal will definitely get done. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 You do NOT kill the golden goose. On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 If there is an uncapped year there will be a lockout. The players will fight to keep no cap and the owners will fight to get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 If there is an uncapped year there will be a lockout. The players will fight to keep no cap and the owners will fight to get it back.Maybe... maybe not.The cap is what makes it so that the signing bonuses are so high, and even though the contracts aren't guaranteed, the bonuses serve as a de facto guarantee for at least a portion of it.With no cap, the contracts may be guaranteed, but as a result, there would be little to no upfront money. I have a feeling that the players (at least the stars) wouldn't want to give up all that money... despite what they're currently saying.I'd bet that if it was possible to actually do the math, the net effect of losing the cap wouldn't be nearly as high as most think. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I actually did a huge research project for an economics class this past semester on this very topic. Overall, while the deal could be hard to work out, the negative impact would be too great to let it happen and most of the big wigs in the NFL know that. With as much revenue Cable networks, cities, states, ect make off of the NFL, a lockout could potentially even have a negative macro economic impact. One thing that most people don't know is that the NFL is one of the largest entertainment properties in the United States, and the TV rights to the NFL are the most lucrative and expensive rights of not only any American sport, but any American entertainment property. The loss of that, even for one year, would be unfathomable.Basically, I'm not saying it's impossible for a lockout to happen, but it would be an extremely foolish move to let it happen. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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