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Word from the UFL is that they are pushing the season back a month. Interesting news, especially because all the players, coaches and staff have reported to training camp. This comes after they canceled mini camps. Press release later today, press conference this afternoon.

I am really shocked to see this. After the great way they treated their players and staff, and after all that money they made by demanding money from the NFL last season (that no team paid), you would think that they would be rolling in the dough! [/sarcasm]

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Well, I guess its time for them to fold. They easily could have just suspended operations and moved to spring/summer ball, or"sold out" and become a developmental league for the NFL. IMO, they let too many oppurtunities get by during the lockout and now they've lost any momentum they could have had. With the move to September, they go back to what they've had the last two seasons, but if a third season happens, they're going to need to really really hit it hard for a season four.

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A note to people wanting to start a rival football league. DON'T DO IT, YOU WILL FAIL!!!! Everyone knew this league would fail. Can't believe they found some chumps to invest in the league to begin with.

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The simple fact of the matter is that the market for an alternative outdoor professional football league operating in the modern era of major-pro sports is nowhere near as large as potential investors believe that it is. Particularly when said alt-football league is operating during the same Fall time-frame as the National Football League. That is why the United Football League failed. Period.

Are there die-hard alt-football league enthusiasts out there? Sure there are. Are there anywhere near enough to make a Fall season alternative outdoor professional football league a going concern on the modern, major-pro sports landscape? No way in Hell. The majority of the North American sports marketplace's appetite for outdoor pro football is more than sated by the NFL in the Fall. As a result, any alt-football league attempting to set-up shop during that season is going to fail to put the necessary fannies in the seats - and draw the necessary eyeballs to TV sets - to make a go of it financially.

The UFL was doomed from the get-go. Even if the NFL lockout had lasted an extended period of time, any short-term "gains" the UFL made during the NFL's absence would have disappeared the moment the more senior league returned to action.

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The USFL, originally, seemed to have the right idea. Don't compete directly with the NFL, at least for viewers and fans. I think if they had continued down the road a while more, they would have stood a chance. But then Donald Trump, and his ego came along.

The UFL did exactly the wrong thing. I do think there is some value in a development league for the NFL, (I think there are for instance rookie QBs who might benefit from starting for a D League team playing a pro style system, rather than backing up an established QB). But that's not what the UFL set out to be.

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The USFL, originally, seemed to have the right idea. Don't compete directly with the NFL, at least for viewers and fans. I think if they had continued down the road a while more, they would have stood a chance. But then Donald Trump, and his ego came along.

The UFL did exactly the wrong thing. I do think there is some value in a development league for the NFL, (I think there are for instance rookie QBs who might benefit from starting for a D League team playing a pro style system, rather than backing up an established QB). But that's not what the UFL set out to be.

They've tried to convert themselves into that, but after having lost 100 million dollars I'm not sure how much gas they have left in the tank. Honestly I'm surprised they're even answering the bell this season. I'd be utterly shocked if they make it out of this calendar year.

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The USFL, originally, seemed to have the right idea. Don't compete directly with the NFL, at least for viewers and fans. I think if they had continued down the road a while more, they would have stood a chance. But then Donald Trump, and his ego came along.

The UFL did exactly the wrong thing. I do think there is some value in a development league for the NFL, (I think there are for instance rookie QBs who might benefit from starting for a D League team playing a pro style system, rather than backing up an established QB). But that's not what the UFL set out to be.

They've tried to convert themselves into that, but after having lost 100 million dollars I'm not sure how much gas they have left in the tank. Honestly I'm surprised they're even answering the bell this season. I'd be utterly shocked if they make it out of this calendar year.

Yeah, I do kind of think the only succesful NFDL that would work is one that is set up by the NFL.

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I don't know but I would imagine that insurance payments etc would make a full on farm system hard to set up in Football. Also I think a May/June/July timetable for a development league might be a workable idea. How about this as a possible list of markets

Portland

Birmingham

Somewhere in New England

Columbus

Toronto (?)

San Antonio

Richmond

Sacramento

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Columbus is to Buckeye crazy all-year long to support a minor league football team, imho. Also, if Virginia Beach works out for the UFL I would recommend them before Richmond because Hampton Roads is a bigger market without any major pro sports. But Saintsfan, the rest of those cities are good choices.

I would love to see a team in San Antonio take the Knights identity from Any Given Sunday and have the middle 10 yards of the field painted yellow.

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I don't know but I would imagine that insurance payments etc would make a full on farm system hard to set up in Football. Also I think a May/June/July timetable for a development league might be a workable idea. How about this as a possible list of markets

Portland

Birmingham

Somewhere in New England

Columbus

Toronto (?)

San Antonio

Richmond

Sacramento

it's not like these markets haven't been attempted at some time before and met with abject failure.

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I don't know but I would imagine that insurance payments etc would make a full on farm system hard to set up in Football. Also I think a May/June/July timetable for a development league might be a workable idea. How about this as a possible list of markets

Portland

Birmingham

Somewhere in New England

Columbus

Toronto (?)

San Antonio

Richmond

Sacramento

it's not like these markets haven't been attempted at some time before and met with abject failure.

Well that may be true, but this 'NDFL' concept would be a part of the NFL, with full on NFL marketing, but also with limited ambition. no expectation of selling out 80,000 seat stadia, but with enough bucks behind it to give markets time to grow.

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I don't know but I would imagine that insurance payments etc would make a full on farm system hard to set up in Football. Also I think a May/June/July timetable for a development league might be a workable idea. How about this as a possible list of markets

Portland

Birmingham

Somewhere in New England

Columbus

Toronto (?)

San Antonio

Richmond

Sacramento

it's not like these markets haven't been attempted at some time before and met with abject failure.

Well that may be true, but this 'NDFL' concept would be a part of the NFL, with full on NFL marketing, but also with limited ambition. no expectation of selling out 80,000 seat stadia, but with enough bucks behind it to give markets time to grow.

it's not like these markets haven't been attempted at some time before with NFL support and met with abject failure.

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