Ben5 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Word from the UFL is that they are pushing the season back a month. Interesting news, especially because all the players, coaches and staff have reported to training camp. This comes after they canceled mini camps. Press release later today, press conference this afternoon.I am really shocked to see this. After the great way they treated their players and staff, and after all that money they made by demanding money from the NFL last season (that no team paid), you would think that they would be rolling in the dough! [/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkerws Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Well, I guess its time for them to fold. They easily could have just suspended operations and moved to spring/summer ball, or"sold out" and become a developmental league for the NFL. IMO, they let too many oppurtunities get by during the lockout and now they've lost any momentum they could have had. With the move to September, they go back to what they've had the last two seasons, but if a third season happens, they're going to need to really really hit it hard for a season four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Style Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 A note to people wanting to start a rival football league. DON'T DO IT, YOU WILL FAIL!!!! Everyone knew this league would fail. Can't believe they found some chumps to invest in the league to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 The simple fact of the matter is that the market for an alternative outdoor professional football league operating in the modern era of major-pro sports is nowhere near as large as potential investors believe that it is. Particularly when said alt-football league is operating during the same Fall time-frame as the National Football League. That is why the United Football League failed. Period. Are there die-hard alt-football league enthusiasts out there? Sure there are. Are there anywhere near enough to make a Fall season alternative outdoor professional football league a going concern on the modern, major-pro sports landscape? No way in Hell. The majority of the North American sports marketplace's appetite for outdoor pro football is more than sated by the NFL in the Fall. As a result, any alt-football league attempting to set-up shop during that season is going to fail to put the necessary fannies in the seats - and draw the necessary eyeballs to TV sets - to make a go of it financially.The UFL was doomed from the get-go. Even if the NFL lockout had lasted an extended period of time, any short-term "gains" the UFL made during the NFL's absence would have disappeared the moment the more senior league returned to action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I dont think the UFL tried to be a rival to the NFL, maybe a minor league which is a benefit for the NFL. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 By playing their season during the NFL season, the UFL was setting itself up as a competitor for attention, at least.We don't need another minor league football league - that's what the NCAA is for. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 We don't need another minor league football league - that's what the NCAA is for.Pays better, too. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 So long Hartford.Now a six game season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 The USFL, originally, seemed to have the right idea. Don't compete directly with the NFL, at least for viewers and fans. I think if they had continued down the road a while more, they would have stood a chance. But then Donald Trump, and his ego came along. The UFL did exactly the wrong thing. I do think there is some value in a development league for the NFL, (I think there are for instance rookie QBs who might benefit from starting for a D League team playing a pro style system, rather than backing up an established QB). But that's not what the UFL set out to be. 2011/12 WFL Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 The USFL, originally, seemed to have the right idea. Don't compete directly with the NFL, at least for viewers and fans. I think if they had continued down the road a while more, they would have stood a chance. But then Donald Trump, and his ego came along. The UFL did exactly the wrong thing. I do think there is some value in a development league for the NFL, (I think there are for instance rookie QBs who might benefit from starting for a D League team playing a pro style system, rather than backing up an established QB). But that's not what the UFL set out to be.They've tried to convert themselves into that, but after having lost 100 million dollars I'm not sure how much gas they have left in the tank. Honestly I'm surprised they're even answering the bell this season. I'd be utterly shocked if they make it out of this calendar year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 The USFL, originally, seemed to have the right idea. Don't compete directly with the NFL, at least for viewers and fans. I think if they had continued down the road a while more, they would have stood a chance. But then Donald Trump, and his ego came along. The UFL did exactly the wrong thing. I do think there is some value in a development league for the NFL, (I think there are for instance rookie QBs who might benefit from starting for a D League team playing a pro style system, rather than backing up an established QB). But that's not what the UFL set out to be.They've tried to convert themselves into that, but after having lost 100 million dollars I'm not sure how much gas they have left in the tank. Honestly I'm surprised they're even answering the bell this season. I'd be utterly shocked if they make it out of this calendar year.Yeah, I do kind of think the only succesful NFDL that would work is one that is set up by the NFL. 2011/12 WFL Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 You mean the World League? Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 You can't make a league out of one good market. Omaha will miss the Nighthawks, and that's about it./still missing the Barcelona Dragons//lone abstract tear rolls down face On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Something like the World League or NFL Europe for sure. I'm not sure basing it in Europe is a great idea, I think there are probably good markets in the US for something like that to work. 2011/12 WFL Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldswoosh33 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 There should just be a minor league system for the NFL (other than the NCAA). Romans 5:8 NikoLazar.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I don't know but I would imagine that insurance payments etc would make a full on farm system hard to set up in Football. Also I think a May/June/July timetable for a development league might be a workable idea. How about this as a possible list of marketsPortlandBirminghamSomewhere in New EnglandColumbusToronto (?)San AntonioRichmondSacramento 2011/12 WFL Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonBlue Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Columbus is to Buckeye crazy all-year long to support a minor league football team, imho. Also, if Virginia Beach works out for the UFL I would recommend them before Richmond because Hampton Roads is a bigger market without any major pro sports. But Saintsfan, the rest of those cities are good choices.I would love to see a team in San Antonio take the Knights identity from Any Given Sunday and have the middle 10 yards of the field painted yellow. "I did absolutely nothing and it was everything I thought it could be." -Peter Gibbons RIP Demitra #38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee. Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I don't know but I would imagine that insurance payments etc would make a full on farm system hard to set up in Football. Also I think a May/June/July timetable for a development league might be a workable idea. How about this as a possible list of marketsPortlandBirminghamSomewhere in New EnglandColumbusToronto (?)San AntonioRichmondSacramentoit's not like these markets haven't been attempted at some time before and met with abject failure. Welcome to DrunjFlix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsfan Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I don't know but I would imagine that insurance payments etc would make a full on farm system hard to set up in Football. Also I think a May/June/July timetable for a development league might be a workable idea. How about this as a possible list of marketsPortlandBirminghamSomewhere in New EnglandColumbusToronto (?)San AntonioRichmondSacramentoit's not like these markets haven't been attempted at some time before and met with abject failure.Well that may be true, but this 'NDFL' concept would be a part of the NFL, with full on NFL marketing, but also with limited ambition. no expectation of selling out 80,000 seat stadia, but with enough bucks behind it to give markets time to grow. 2011/12 WFL Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I don't know but I would imagine that insurance payments etc would make a full on farm system hard to set up in Football. Also I think a May/June/July timetable for a development league might be a workable idea. How about this as a possible list of marketsPortlandBirminghamSomewhere in New EnglandColumbusToronto (?)San AntonioRichmondSacramentoit's not like these markets haven't been attempted at some time before and met with abject failure.Well that may be true, but this 'NDFL' concept would be a part of the NFL, with full on NFL marketing, but also with limited ambition. no expectation of selling out 80,000 seat stadia, but with enough bucks behind it to give markets time to grow.it's not like these markets haven't been attempted at some time before with NFL support and met with abject failure. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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