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DeFrank last won the day on April 20

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  1. NFL 2018 changes

    I really resent this line of thinking. This guy keeps sharing photos of a Jets uniform that had a better green, better logo, and is super clean and traditional. He’s an individual with individual tastes. Treating him like he’s exactly the same as all other players puts a bad taste in my mouth.
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  3. MLB changes 2018?

    Gotcha on the outfield. I hadn't thought about that. The red is emphasized but I don't think it qualifies as Leonsis co-branding. After all, in 2005 the Capitals and Wizards still looked like this. Even today, the Nats feel like red/white team as opposed to a red/white/blue team (Caps too). To me, they feel different. Also, the exterior does give off that "monumental vibe" that, as you mentioned, the Metro also takes a stab at (in a very different way). Had never thought about the interior though. Having gone to RFK games during the first couple of years, it's hard for me to be sympathetic to... anything about that park. But I see what you mean.
  4. MLB changes 2018?

    I don’t get the last part, can you explain lol i like the red and white. DC flag colors.
  5. MLB changes 2018?

    I think ultimately I agree. You say it best here. “DC” is too perfect as an interlock. Also gives the team a bit more local je ne sais quoi. It’ll never happen now though. Spend one day at Nats Park and it becomes clear it’s literally impossible
  6. Lost Sports Logos?

    If the 90s was a “more is more” era in both sports design and fashion, what would you say the contemporary version of that is?
  7. Lost Sports Logos?

  8. Lost Sports Logos?

    Either that or he’s saying that he’s proud of the growth and improvement his firm has had in the last 15 years?
  9. Lost Sports Logos?

    My soon-to-be alma mater, Colgate, has a pretty interesting "lost logo" situation. Our current athletic branding is just awful in my opinion. Way too many outlines. Is the mascot a pirate? A zombie? Paul Revere? Nobody knows. He's got red eyes and grey skin. Good news is most students and teams just stick to basics which work really well for a small liberal arts university with a very traditionally collegiate aesthetic. Anyway, I asked our now-outgoing AD about the origin of the athletic branding a couple years ago, and she told me there there was this whole design put together that was scrapped just before unveil in the early 2000s. I emailed the guy who she said designed it, and here's what he had to say: "I can’t recall the exact date, but we were hired by Colgate to a comprehensive redesign of their athletic identity in the early 2000’s. At that time Mark Murphy was the Athletic Director (former Washington Redskin and current president of the Green Bay Packers). As we were near completion Mark moved on to become Athletic Director at Northwestern and the sudden change in leadership caused our project to meet an untimely demise. The project was essentially “in the can", so yes, there is a complete Colgate athletic identity that never saw the light of day. It’s a shame, because I thought it was pretty good, not something that we would do today, but good for the era in which it was created." All of this is especially interesting in light of the fact that Colgate transitioned from being known as the "Red Raiders" to the "Raiders" and lost all Native American imagery in about 2002. You could probably count most of the old logos from the "Red Raider" era as lost anyway. They're very hard to find. This torch logo is definitely not from the current brand, which while terrible is very consistent in its colors and marks. But the "flames" match somewhat to the current athletic torch. The "lost identity" guy said if I was ever driving through the area to come by and check them out in person. I think I'll have to sometime.
  10. *John Mulaney voice* who's to say?
  11. Jacksonville Jaguars Uniform Documentary

    Around 6:30 the guy is saying the two tone helmet let players see when Jaguars heads were turning on field. Followed by this idea that all black is the most competitive “camo” for a helmet one could have. Unreal!
  12. Now that teams don't have to pick white or black cleats might be time to update.
  13. MLB changes 2018?

    Are there examples to you or objectively bad logos that ought to be kept around because they’re so ingrained with a team’s identity? I’m not saying the Nats are there, but ten years from now they sure could be
  14. MLB changes 2018?

    What are your thoughts on the Twin City Twins?