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Unrealized Stadiums

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2 hours ago, ltjets21 said:

I know the dodgers tried to get a domed stadium in Brooklyn but are there any renderings of the Giants looking for a new stadium?

 

Nope.

 

Horace Stoneham, the Giants' owner, did say in the mid-1950s that if the city was going to contribute to a new Dodgers stadium then it should contribute equally to a stadium for his club.  But I'm not aware he ever did very much to explore that possibility.

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13 minutes ago, Gothamite said:

 

Nope.

 

Horace Stoneham, the Giants' owner, did say in the mid-1950s that if the city was going to contribute to a new Dodgers stadium then it should contribute equally to a stadium for his club.  But I'm not aware he ever did very much to explore that possibility.

 

It never made sense to me how the more successful teams as far as championships seemed to always be pushed out of town. Philadelphia A's and the Giants were treated like trash to the Phillies and the Dodgers. Granted the Dodgers ended up moving anyway but they had the offer to move to Flushing.

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Don't forget the Cardinals, who were almost forced out of St. Louis because the Browns owned the ballpark.  If they hadn't tapped into the deep Busch pockets it would have been the other team moving to somewhere like LA or Baltimore.

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51 minutes ago, ltjets21 said:

It never made sense to me how the more successful teams as far as championships seemed to always be pushed out of town. Philadelphia A's and the Giants were treated like trash to the Phillies and the Dodgers. Granted the Dodgers ended up moving anyway but they had the offer to move to Flushing.

 

It wasn't so much that the A's were treated like trash as much as it was that They made a lot of bad business decisions, had ownership disputes, basically ran out of money, and were lead by a legitimately senile president/GM/manager who ran them into the ground. 

 

For most of the A's existence it was the phillies that were ignored and in danger of folding. It took a while but eventually A's fans abandoned the team and I guess started supporting the Phillies. The timing of the Wiz Kids run in 1950 definitely helped swing the pendulum. 

 

http://sabr.org/research/departure-without-dignity-athletics-leave-philadelphia

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On April 21, 2017 at 4:34 PM, BringBackTheVet said:

 

It wasn't so much that the A's were treated like trash as much as it was that They made a lot of bad business decisions, had ownership disputes, basically ran out of money, and were lead by a legitimately senile president/GM/manager who ran them into the ground. 

 

For most of the A's existence it was the phillies that were ignored and in danger of folding. It took a while but eventually A's fans abandoned the team and I guess started supporting the Phillies. The timing of the Wiz Kids run in 1950 definitely helped swing the pendulum. 

 

http://sabr.org/research/departure-without-dignity-athletics-leave-philadelphia

 

I feel like you hear stories of the whole neighborhood living and dying with teams but it seems like they were a bunch of front runners. Teams moving a few years after they win it all shows their loyalty.

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1 hour ago, ltjets21 said:

I feel like you hear stories of the whole neighborhood living and dying with teams but it seems like they were a bunch of front runners. Teams moving a few years after they win it all shows their loyalty.

 

So you didn't actually read what I wrote or the link I posted.  OK.

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12 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

 

So you didn't actually read what I wrote or the link I posted.  OK.

 

I was talking more about the Giants...won in 51 and no fan support in 55.

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My former roommate who is a lovable guy, but the most often wrong person I know claimed last night that Cincinnati once got very close to hosting the 2012 Olympics. I looked it up and it turns out they submitted a bid, but never made it past the early stages. His definition of "very close" is different from mine. Posting here in this thread because online searches turned up some nifty artwork. 

 

http://www.cincinnativseveryone.com/5-cincinnati-tried-to-host-the-2012-olympics-take-a-look-at-what-could-have-been/

 

Cincy-Olympics1.jpg

 

Nippert Stadium, home of UC football and FC Cincinnati futbol would've had a temporary dome on it for gymnastics. 

 

olympicpark1024.jpg

 

this would've interesting. Right now that area is industrial and ugly.

 

CincyOlympics2.jpg

this actually wouldn't have required much in the way of a stadium. Those bleachers already exist. It's just funny to me that they'd allow people to swim in the Ohio River, much less world class athletes. 

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Paris, London, Madrid, NYC, Rio, and.... Cincinnati? I give credit to the artist - that drawing makes the city look way bigger than it is.

 

THe idea of a temporary dome is intriguing - curious how they'd erect it and remove it, and if it could be easily repeated whenever they wanted to do more events there.  I'm big on the idea of stadium "umbrellas", just haven't seen any that are economical and efficient.

 

Is it the field in the bottom left of the drawing that would have the temp dome?

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