hubsportsfan17 Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 We've had two topics on the same subject locked by the mods in the last few months...it's one of those debates that rarely ends pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 it's a sport, but the drivers aren't athletes. The car does 95% of the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0dotcom Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 ahh, another endless debate.It's a toughy, the cars do alot of the work, but the drivers still have to be in top shape. they lose alot of water out there, gotta stay focused for the duration of the race, theres alot to it. it's not a traditional sport, but the guys do work themselves hard to stay competitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fractalthinker Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 IMO it is a sport. True, the car does a lot of the work. This is because the crew prepped the car beforehand for the pounding, in addition to maintaining the machine through the race. Stock car racing is far from an individual sport.If you want a real debate, answer this: Should horses be considered athletes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 i went up to New Hampshire International Speedway for the Siemens 300. Kurt Bush won. Followed by Gordon, Newman, Kenseth, and Stewart. I sat 5 rows from the top on the 4th turn on the begining of pit row. I've never been interested in NASCAR but my friend asked me to go with him. I must admit I really enjoyed the race. It took me a few hundred laps to figure out what to look for among the drivers. There were a lot of countions (12 i think) and then the race ended rather abruptly after the final one. What do you think of NASCAR? Is it a sport? I used to think no, but I see while people enjoy now. I agree this is an Endless debate. The car does the work, but the car needs a driver. On and on. I used to watch just for crashes and then I went to a race in Atlanta and then Talladega and I have been hooked on the racing aspect ever since. Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilTownMVP Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 I have no problem if they want to call it a "motorsport," but IMO, it's not an actual sport. A great car with a good driver will always beat a good car with a great driver. If and when that ever changes, I might change my mind. Dubya's thoughts on "terrorist" nations: "They never stop thinking of new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winters in buffalo Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 And a racehorse driving a crappy car will usually beat a jockey riding a redneck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epper Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 well, ive gotten into heated arguments on this board defending my favourite sport on earth, Auto Racing. many of you know that i am a NASCAR addict, by the fact that i usually have my favourite driver, Robby Gordon in my avatar.I dont think anyone can judge the sport until theyve seen it in person. the feel of having 43 800hp engines roaring around at insane speeds just really gets the blood flowin'! Theres no other sport i'd rather watch live. ive been to about 30 MLB games, 1 NFL games, 10 NBA games, and 2 NHL games, and i can say that i would take one of the 15 NASCAR races ive been to over one of those any day.Yes, NASCAR is a sport. the athletes inside the cars have to be in very good physical shape to endure 3G's of load on their bodies for 4 hrs. in cockpits that can reach up to 130 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrdevil Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Just because you have to be in good physical condition doesn't mean your an athlete. An Astronaut has to be in terrific physical condition but that doesn't make them athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paynomind Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 OK, gentlemen... lets not rehash this arguement quite yet.. i think we need to wait for a couple months, get some new faces around here before doing this.SOME of us think it isn't, some of US think it IS.It is entirely up for debate. I'm sure people on both sides will agree that it is a tough decision and isnt exactly clear cut either way. NCFA Sunset Beach Tech - Octopi ΓΔΒ! Going to college gets you closer to the real world, kind of like climbing a tree gets you closer to the moon. "...a nice illustration of what you get when skill, talent, and precedent are deducted from 'creativity.' " - James Howard Kunstler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster C Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 I like NASCAR. Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Tony Stewart rock.That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moser316 Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Honestly, I've tried to get into it in the past (I have a friend who's a huge NASCAR fan), but I just don't see the appeal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 A banana is more appealing than NASCAR I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakwood Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Im not a fan of NASCAR because most if not all the races are ovals, I'd much prefer it if they had more road courses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 What the heck... lemme throw in my grin of salt to...(I don't usually like joining those purposeless topics...)It akes awhile to get recognize to the amount of strategy and skills involved in that "Competition" (it's hard to cal it a sport...).Both drivers and crew chiefs need to do a lot of planning, and they can control a lot of the performance of the vehicle.IMO the most important factor being fresh rubber> A timely pit stop to get good grip can make the difference between losing 3 seconds to the leader per lap or passing 10 guys on the way to the checkered flag.Agreed that at first ovals sound boring, but NASCAR has done agood job at providing the fans with variety instead of "cookie cutter" tracks.You have SuperSpeedway, Tri-Ovals, Short-track, flat tracks.NASCAR is way more interesting then F1. @Frenchie_TO Owner of the Rochester Americans of the MLH Owner of the Toronto Frenchies of the GCFHL6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suigi Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 I dunno, I find NASCAR to have its ups and downs.Upsides: The crashes are spectacular. It's wheel-to-wheel racing all the time.Downsides: Please turn to the RIGHT sometime! It's wheel-to-wheel because all the cars are the freaking same! That, and they're as far away from stock cars as the Mars rover. And is it just me, or is picking a winner like a lottery. It's either Dale Earnhardt Junoir, Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, or 50 other guys.I can think of at least THREE other racing series that are less publicized, but infinitely more interesting.World Rally ChampionshipAmerican Le Mans SeriesAll-Japan Gran Touring Championship Super Wario Comix!Iron Crossover IX Contender (Tied for 6th)Iron Crossover Halloween Contender (Tied for Bronze) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Rally racing is crazy. The people can get awfully close to the cars don't they. LeMans is interesting to me as well. I only know one Canadian Ron Fellows regularly races in the series. I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopernv Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 NASCAR should be a sport, I am starting a simulation league for it, and NASCAR Thunder is made by 'Ea Sports' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchie Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I dunno, I find NASCAR to have its ups and downs.Upsides: The crashes are spectacular. It's wheel-to-wheel racing all the time.Downsides: Please turn to the RIGHT sometime! It's wheel-to-wheel because all the cars are the freaking same! That, and they're as far away from stock cars as the Mars rover. And is it just me, or is picking a winner like a lottery. It's either Dale Earnhardt Junoir, Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, or 50 other guys.I can think of at least THREE other racing series that are less publicized, but infinitely more interesting.World Rally ChampionshipAmerican Le Mans SeriesAll-Japan Gran Touring Championship Please get a signature banner that CAN spell Q-u- é -b-e-c And, for racing, let's not forget Australia's V8 Supercar Championship Series...Now the Fords are real Fords...Nothing like the Falcon UTEs, FPV.I believe the sport version is called? @Frenchie_TO Owner of the Rochester Americans of the MLH Owner of the Toronto Frenchies of the GCFHL6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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