stratonascar Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 My Pro Football Alignment when Car Wars is Released ACFL: Atlantic Schooners, Baltimore Ravens, Buffalo BIlls, Charlotte Panthers, Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Detroit Lions, Hamilton Tiger-Cats, Indianapolis Colts, Montreal Alouettes, New England Patriots, New York Giants, New York Jets, Ottawa Redblacks, Philadelphia Eagles, Pittsburgh Steelers, Toronto Argonauts, Washington Redskins (Need 10 More Teams) DFL: Atlanta Falcons, Jacksonville Jaguars, Miami Dolphins, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Tennessee Titans (Need 22 More Teams) ISFL: Chicago Bears, Dallas Cowboys, Green Bay Packers, Houston Texans, Kansas City Chiefs, Minnesota Vikings, WInnipeg Blue Bombers (Need 21 More Teams) PCFL: Arizona Cardinals, British Columbia Lions, Calgary Stampeders, Denver Broncos, Edmonton Eskimos, Los Angeles Rams, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, San Francisco 49ers, Saskatchewan Roughriders, Seattle Seahawks (Need 17 More Teams) However 4 Leagues in Pro Football will have 28 Teams each if you any suggestions let me know, but right now let's go to Baseball ABL: Baltimore Orioles, Boston Red Sox, Cincinnati Reds, Cleveland Indians, Detroit Tigers, New York Mets, New York Yankees, Philadelphia Phillies, Pittsburgh Pirates, Toronto Blue Jays, Washington Nationals (Need 17 More Teams) IBL: Chicago Cubs, Chicago White Sox, Houston Astros, Kansas City Royals, Milwaukee Brewers, Minnesota Twins, St. Louis Cardinals, Texas Rangers (Need 20 More Teams) PCBL: Arizona Diamondbacks, Colorado Rockies, Los Angeles Angels, Los Angeles Dodgers, Oakland Athletics, San Diego Padres, San Francisco Giants, Seattle Mariners (Need 20 More Teams) SBL: Atlanta Braves, Miami Marlins, Tampa Bay Bay Rays (Need 25 More Teams) So if there's any suggestions you wanna consider let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieMoon Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 The MLB in 2022 - Divisions are realigned and the league implements Universal DH NL East Montreal Expos New York Mets Philadelphia Phillies Pittsburgh Pirates NL South Atlanta Braves Miami Marlins Tampa Bay Rays Washington Nationals NL Central Chicago Cubs Cincinnati Reds Milwaukee Brewers St. Louis Cardinals NL West Arizona Diamondbacks Los Angeles Dodgers San Diego Padres San Francisco Giants AL East Baltimore Orioles Boston Red Sox New York Yankees Toronto Blue Jays AL South Colorado Rockies Houston Astros Kansas City Royals Texas Rangers AL Central Chicago White Sox Cleveland Indians Detroit Tigers Minnesota Twins AL West Los Angeles Angels Oakland A's Portland Beavers Seattle Mariners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Shelf Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 With the recent expansion news, I decided to do an MLS realignment. This would be as of 2022, when St. Louis begins play: (Los Angeles=LA Galaxy, Long Beach=LA FC, Covington=FC Cincinnati, New York=NYC FC, Newark=NY Red Bulls, Boston=New England, Fort Lauderdale=Inter Miami CF) EASTERN CONFERENCE NORTHEAST DIVISION DC United Montreal Impact New England Revolution New York City FC New York Red Bulls Philadelphia Union Toronto FC CENTRAL DIVISION Atlanta United FC Chicago Fire FC Cincinnati Columbus Crew SC Inter Miami CF Nashville SC Orlando City SC WESTERN CONFERENCE MIDWEST DIVISION Austin FC Colorado Rapids FC Dallas Houston Dynamo Minnesota United FC Sporting Kansas City St. Louis PACIFIC DIVISION Los Angeles Galaxy Los Angeles FC Portland Timbers Real Salt Lake San Jose Earthquakes Seattle Sounders FC Vancouver Whitecaps FC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieMoon Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Here's how to take all the BS out of college football. Start a new Division called Division 1 Elite. Each school has to pay a buy in. ...it comes down to the same schools every year anyways so let's just have a mega league. The "league" is broken down into four conferences of 12 based upon location. The top four from each conference move on to a single elimination tournament. Plain and simple. Better games better ratings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) Here’s my ideal MLB, from my research and opinions on how markets worked out. AL East Baltimore Orioles Boston Red Sox Chicago White Sox Cleveland Spiders (‘77 expansion) Detroit Tigers New York Yankees Toronto Blue Jays (‘77 expansion) AL West Anaheim Angels (‘61 expansion) Dallas Chaparrals (‘61 expansion team, relocated ‘72) Denver Zephyrs (‘93 expansion) Kansas City Royals (‘69 expansion) Minnesota Twins Oakland Athletics Seattle Rainiers (former Cleveland/Seattle Indians - moved in 1965, renamed in 1993) NL East Atlanta Firebirds (former Boston Braves/Milwaukee Brewers) Cincinnati Reds Montréal Expos (‘69 expansion) New York Mets (‘62 expansion) Philadelphia Phillies Pittsburgh Pirates Washington Grays (‘93 expansion) NL West Chicago Cubs Houston Astros (‘62 expansion) Los Angeles Dodgers Milwaukee Brewers (‘69 expansion) St. Louis Cardinals San Diego Padres (‘69 expansion) San Francisco Giants What I like about this alignment is that there are only 28 teams, with zero Florida clubs, no Arizona team, and relative geographic harmony. Other perks include only one team with a state name, no Native American-themed identifies, and the Expos stuck around. Even the one relocation I did add features a replacement team. Edited September 26, 2019 by SFGiants58 1 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 4 hours ago, SFGiants58 said: Here’s my ideal MLB, from my research and opinions on how markets worked out. 4 hours ago, SFGiants58 said: What I like about this alignment is that there are only 28 teams, with zero Florida clubs, no Arizona team, and relative geographic harmony. Having no teams in the spring training states is a big plus. However, that is cancelled out by the loss of the Braves' identity. The team has dumped the only really questionable part of its iconography, the shouting Indian logo. The tomahawk is borderline; but, I could see getting rid of it, despite its aesthetic qualities and its historical value as having represented the team in all three of its homes. Indeed, the team's current alt uniform without the tomahawk and with the number on the front is very nice. The use of the noun form of the adjective "brave" with no Native imagery would be the best way to go. (Though a logo with a feather would probably be alright, as evidenced by the fact that the L.A. Clippers continue to use a feather logo on their Buffalo Braves throwback with no objections.) 4 hours ago, SFGiants58 said: Dallas Chaparrals (‘61 expansion team, relocated ‘72) Are we to assume that the 1961 expansion team was placed in Washington, as in the real history? Also, you have three 1969 expansion teams in the National League, and only one in the American League. That would give us a 13-team National League and an 11-team American League from 1969 through 1976, and two 13-team leagues from 1977 through 1992, with even numbers restored in 1993. So, this raises the ugly prospect of interleague play dating back to 1969. Not cool. And "Anaheim Angels"? Please no. Whether this team plays in Los Angeles proper or in a relatively unimportant city in the next county over, it is an L.A. team — as were the Rams when they played in Anaheim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: Having no teams in the spring training states is a big plus. However, that is cancelled out by the loss of the Braves' identity. The team has dumped the only really questionable part of its iconography, the shouting Indian logo. The tomahawk is borderline; but, I could see getting rid of it, despite its aesthetic qualities and its historical value as having represented the team in all three of its homes. Indeed, the team's current alt uniform without the tomahawk and with the number on the front is very nice. The use of the noun form of the adjective "brave" with no Native imagery would be the best way to go. (Though a logo with a feather would probably be alright, as evidenced by the fact that the L.A. Clippers continue to use a feather logo on their Buffalo Braves throwback with no objections.) It’s still a Native American-themed name in origin that has few other associations (like Warriors), so it goes bye-bye. I don’t care that it “links the history of the franchise,” it still goes away in favor of a local approach. What better way to get rid of the tomahawks chop? The Buffalo Braves’ logo looks more like a jet contrail than it does a feather, so no, it doesn’t count. It shouldn’t have been allowed anyway, since Buffalo never got a replacement team. Quote Are we to assume that the 1961 expansion team was placed in Washington, as in the real history? Yes. Quote Also, you have three 1969 expansion teams in the National League, and only one in the American League. The Brewers would still flip to the NL, albeit in the ‘93 expansion. They’d want Chicago games, while the AL West would get a mountain time team. Quote And "Anaheim Angels"? Please no. Whether this team plays in Los Angeles proper or in a relatively unimportant city in the next county over, it is an L.A. team — as were the Rams when they played in Anaheim. The Anaheim Angels won the 2002 World Series and the Anaheim Ducks exist. Anaheim forever, LA never. 1 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, SFGiants58 said: The Anaheim Angels won the 2002 World Series and the Anaheim Ducks exist. Anaheim forever, LA never. The Florida Marlins won the World Series; that didn't keep the team from correcting its name to "Miami". Also, the New Jersey Devils exist, as did the New Jersey Nets and New Jersey Generals. Yet the current XFL wised up and named its Meadowlands team the New York Guardians. even after having erred the last time by including New Jersey in the name of the New York / New Jersey Hitmen . And of course MLS's team in northern New Jersey is rightfully called New York, despite its origin with the risible New York / New Jersey moniker. The important point is that a city's sphere of influence extends far beyond its borders, even into other municipalities. And this goes double for the collosi of New York and Los Angeles. If you turn on the television in Anaheim, all the local stations are Los Angeles stations; and this is all you need to know in order to establish objectively and conclusively that that town is part of the L.A. metropolitan area. Indeed, Anaheim is significant only on account of being part of that urban area, not in its own right. Leagues smaller than Major League Baseball can reasonably identify with less significant locales; for instance, the NHL with teams in the Los Angeles and New York areas called Anaheim and New Jersey, respectively. The MLL once had a team called Long Island, which made sense for that league (a lot more sense than changing that team's name to New York despite the fact that the team's entire fan base is located on the Island and not in the City). But the bigger leagues should not be dealing with that sort of nonsense. In a league the calibre of Major League Baseball, goofy Anaheim has no business being listed alongside the Chicagos and Philadephias of the world. Even Kansas City and Milwaukee, the smallest cities in the Major Leagues, dwarf Anaheim — not only in population, but also in cultural significance and overall mystique. "Anaheim" in the Major Leagues. Egad, man. Major League Baseball is better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: The Florida Marlins won the World Series; that didn't keep the team from correcting its name to "Miami". They had two fire sales and never made the playoffs after 2003. It's different. 1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: Also, the New Jersey Devils exist, as did the New Jersey Nets and New Jersey Generals. Yet the current XFL wised up and named its Meadowlands team the New York Guardians. even after having erred the last time by including New Jersey in the name of the New York / New Jersey Hitmen . And of course MLS's team in northern New Jersey is rightfully called New York, despite its origin with the risible New York / New Jersey moniker. Sure. 1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: The important point is that a city's sphere of influence extends far beyond its borders, even into other municipalities. And this goes double for the collosi of New York and Los Angeles. If you turn on the television in Anaheim, all the local stations are Los Angeles stations; and this is all you need to know in order to establish objectively and conclusively that that town is part of the L.A. metropolitan area. Indeed, Anaheim is significant only on account of being part of that urban area, not in its own right. The Orange Curtain still exists. 1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: Leagues smaller than Major League Baseball can reasonably identify with less significant locales; for instance, the NHL with teams in the Los Angeles and New York areas called Anaheim and New Jersey, respectively. The NHL isn't that much smaller than MLB. WIth a large Canadian presence, it's arguably bigger. That's snooty to say otherwise. 1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: The MLL once had a team called Long Island, which made sense for that league (a lot more sense than changing that team's name to New York despite the fact that the team's entire fan base is located on the Island and not in the City). But the bigger leagues should not be dealing with that sort of nonsense. Ok. 1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: In a league the calibre of Major League Baseball, goofy Anaheim has no business being listed alongside the Chicagos and Philadephias of the world. Even Kansas City and Milwaukee, the smallest cities in the Major Leagues, dwarf Anaheim — not only in population, but also in cultural significance and overall mystique. That lacks so much local perspective and understanding that Anaheim became big-league. Not every city needs some "cultural significance" or "mystique" to be in the majors. That's elitist crap. @Still MIGHTY and the other people of Orange County would like a word with you. 1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: "Anaheim" in the Major Leagues. Egad, man. Major League Baseball is better than that. "Anaheim" belongs in the majors. Deal with it. Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 23 hours ago, SFGiants58 said: "Anaheim" belongs in the majors. Deal with it. I don't have to, because the Angels have done the right thing and reverted to the name Los Angeles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: I don't have to, because the Angels have done the right thing and reverted to the name Los Angeles. Because Arte wanted to maybe leave Anaheim, which alienated a bunch of fans with that move. I’m sure many fans want to bring “Anaheim” back. It’s the name of the best team in franchise history. Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoe12 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 The NBA alignment is boring, too many teams make the playoffs and divisions mean nothing. I'd like to see them try this: ATLANTIC DIVISION Boston Celtics New York Knicks Brooklyn Nets Philadelphia 76ers Washington Wizards Toronto Raptors CENTRAL DIVISION Cleveland Cavaliers Detroit Pistons Indiana Pacers Milwaukee Bucks Chicago Bulls Minnesota Timberwolves SOUTHEAST DIVISION Charlotte Hornets Memphis Grizzlies Atlanta Hawks Orlando Magic Miami Heat New Orleans Pelicans SOUTHWEST San Antonio Spurs Dallas Mavericks Houston Rockets OKC Thunder Denver Nuggets Utah Jazz PACIFIC Phoenix Suns Los Angeles Lakers LA Clippers Sacramento Kings Golden State Warriors Portland Trailblazers So obviously not too much change, outside of conferences being abandoned and being replaced by five 6 team divisions. Some teams get shuffled around, but into more geographically sensical arrangements.Here's how I'd do the playoffs, using the 2018-19 results as a guide. 11 teams are in, the five division winners and the next six best teams. Division Winners (First round bye) 1. Milwaukee Bucks: 60-22 2. Toronto Raptors: 58-24 3. Golden State Warriors: 57-25 4. Denver Nuggets: 54-28 5. Orlando Magic: 42-40 Wildcards (Best of 5 Play in Round) 6. Portland Trail Blazers: 53-29 7. Houston Rockets: 53-29 8. Philadelphia 76ers: 51-31 9. Utah Jazz: 50-32 10. Boston Celtics: 49-33 11. OKC Thunder: 49-33 The very obvious problem here is that the Southeast division is hot garbage and so the Magic make the playoffs at 42-40, a worse record than the Spurs, Clippers, and Pacers who all missed the playoffs. I think this is a small price to pay for this new alignment, and will likely be an outlier as the league shifts. With this alignment, the divisions actually matter and so hopefully division rivalries will matter a lot more. Also with first round byes at stake hopefully there would be fewer "rest" days for big stars and the teams that perform better during the regular season and win the division will be rewarded with a week of rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilSox Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 3:12 PM, SFGiants58 said: The Anaheim Angels won the 2002 World Series and the Anaheim Ducks exist. Anaheim forever, LA never. What if the team was named the Los Angeles Stars from the get go and treated as a merger of the old PCL clubs? California Stars and Anaheim Stars would sound a lot better than a name that only makes sense when it's attached to LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, NicDB said: What if the team was named the Los Angeles Stars from the get go and treated as a merger of the old PCL clubs? California Stars and Anaheim Stars would sound a lot better than a name that only makes sense when it's attached to LA. I’m not sure that it’s good branding to have both a Stars and an Astros in the same level. I know that Los Angeles Angels makes sense in a linguistic sense, but the alliteration/assonance makes “Angels” far more usable. Going the Hollywood angle with Stars could work, to homage the PCL team’s city name. A film canister as a baseball roundel, anybody? 1 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzcut Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 MLB has proposed eliminating 42 MiLB clubs from affiliated baseball(basically by nuking the short season leagues) and is seeking to bring in two independent league teams to help get to 120. Those being Spoiler St. Paul, MN and Sugarland, TX. So...with that in mind, what 42 clubs would you eliminate? This of course assumes this idea passes through without modifications. Quote The CCSLC's resident Geelong Cats fan. Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends. Sounds like something from a Rocky & Bullwinkle story arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 5 hours ago, buzzcut said: MLB has proposed eliminating 42 MiLB clubs from affiliated baseball(basically by nuking the short season leagues) and is seeking to bring in two independent league teams to help get to 120. Those being Hide contents St. Paul, MN and Sugarland, TX. So...with that in mind, what 42 clubs would you eliminate? This of course assumes this idea passes through without modifications. The talk is that they would eliminate the Rookie level teams and the short season level teams. This means these leagues would disappear... -New York/Penn League (14) -Northwest (8) -Appalachian (10) -Pioneer (8) You're at 40 teams right now if you cut out those four leagues out. Don't know where the other two are coming in. With what has been mentioned, here's what I think will happen here with the things mentioned in the article and what you have brought up: Triple A: Pacific Coast League (10) - Albuquerque, El Paso, Fresno, Las Vegas, Reno, Round Rock, Sacramento, Salt Lake, San Antonio, Tacoma International League (20) - Buffalo, Charlotte, Columbus, Durham, Gwinnett, Indianapolis, Iowa, Lehigh Valley, Louisville, Memphis, Nashville, Norfolk, Oklahoma City, Omaha, Pawtucket, Rochester, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, Syracuse, Toledo, Wichita Double A: Eastern League (12) - Altoona, Akron, Binghamton, Bowie, Erie, Harrisburg, Hartford, New Hampshire, Portland (Maine), Reading, Richmond, Trenton Southern League (8) - Birmingham, Biloxi, Chattanooga, Jacksonville, Montgomery, Rocket City, Pensacola, Tennessee Texas League (10) - Amarillo, Arkansas, Corpus Christi, Frisco, Midland, Northwest Arkansas, Shreveport (Formerly Jackson Generals), Springfield, Sugar Land (Former Mississippi Braves), Tulsa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzcut Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Seadragon76 said: The talk is that they would eliminate the Rookie level teams and the short season level teams. This means these leagues would disappear... -New York/Penn League (14) -Northwest (8) -Appalachian (10) -Pioneer (8) You're at 40 teams right now if you cut out those four leagues out. Don't know where the other two are coming in. With what has been mentioned, here's what I think will happen here with the things mentioned in the article and what you have brought up: Triple A: Pacific Coast League (10) - Albuquerque, El Paso, Fresno, Las Vegas, Reno, Round Rock, Sacramento, Salt Lake, San Antonio, Tacoma International League (20) - Buffalo, Charlotte, Columbus, Durham, Gwinnett, Indianapolis, Iowa, Lehigh Valley, Louisville, Memphis, Nashville, Norfolk, Oklahoma City, Omaha, Pawtucket, Rochester, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, Syracuse, Toledo, Wichita Double A: Eastern League (12) - Altoona, Akron, Binghamton, Bowie, Erie, Harrisburg, Hartford, New Hampshire, Portland (Maine), Reading, Richmond, Trenton Southern League (8) - Birmingham, Biloxi, Chattanooga, Jacksonville, Montgomery, Rocket City, Pensacola, Tennessee Texas League (10) - Amarillo, Arkansas, Corpus Christi, Frisco, Midland, Northwest Arkansas, Shreveport (Formerly Jackson Generals), Springfield, Sugar Land (Former Mississippi Braves), Tulsa I actually saw a report on ballparkdigest.com saying that a PCL team is being targeted for a move to St. Paul and that some short season clubs, like the whole Northwest League may become full season operations. Quote The CCSLC's resident Geelong Cats fan. Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends. Sounds like something from a Rocky & Bullwinkle story arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Of the 16 teams in the PCL that could move to St. Paul: Fresno maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadragon76 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 10 hours ago, buzzcut said: I actually saw a report on ballparkdigest.com saying that a PCL team is being targeted for a move to St. Paul and that some short season clubs, like the whole Northwest League may become full season operations. I knew I missed something when you mentioned the Northwest League moving from short season play to full season play. I should explain how this would works. Triple A The article I read mentioned that the PCL would be a 10 team league and the IL would be 20 teams. It made it simple for me: The six teams north of Texas (Iowa, Memphis, Nashville, Oklahoma City, Omaha and Wichita) move to the IL. Now comes the hard part and one I didn't add in because in my original plan, St. Paul was going to be in the Class A Midwest League as a relocation of a current team in that league. Now? Well.. oh boy. I don't want to move a current PCL team because it would ruin the geographic plan. So, why not get rid of Wichita and put it St. Paul in their place in the IL? Double A The Eastern League has no changes, but the Southern League loses two teams. Those teams were Jackson and Mississippi. Why those two? No reason. Those two teams move to the Texas League. The Jackson franchise moves to Shreveport, where they had a team in the Texas League until 2002 when they moved to Frisco. Mississippi now becomes the new Sugar Land team. High Single A No changes here. Low Single A This is where most of the chaos would be located. The South Atlantic League becomes a 6 team league while the remaining members form a brand new Mid-Atlantic League. The Midwest League would shrink from 16 teams to 8. The other 8 teams would be the new full season Northwest League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 If the San Antonio Missions can't get a new ballpark built could they be on the move to St. Paul even though they recently just relocated from Colorado Springs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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