Cujo Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, throwuascenario said: The Bills are a much better team than the Chiefs all around. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwuascenario Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Cujo said: The Chiefs are literally 3 players and then a 50 man practice squad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, throwuascenario said: Do you remember when it took Buffalo literally 20 years to find a QB after Kelly? There are teams that have literally never had one in the Super Bowl era. You think you'll just throw a dart and find a better QB than Josh Allen? I literally just agreed with you. 19 minutes ago, Cujo said: Nah, the Bills will never trade him. He'll have a few runs to the divisional round, Buffalo will try a couple rebuilds around him. Philip Rivers 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwuascenario Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, monkeypower said: 26 minutes ago, Needschat said: With the billions that are bet legally, and the more billions illegally, the NFL Monopoly would have a mechanism where they could correct a "Clear and Obvious" missed called! What are you talking about? I don't know what he's talking about either but one thing that would go a long way to helping NFL officiating is to make them acutally use replay when they go to replay. Throw out the call on the field and have the sack to actually make a decision based on the replay. If I ever have to hear the phrase "not enough evidence to overturn it" one more time... This is not a he said, she said law case. You have literally dozens of camera angles to make a decision. Who cares what the guy standing 10 yards away who saw it in real time said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGP Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, FiddySicks said: It’s definitely over the top to call him a “liability”, but I feel like Josh Allen hasn’t been good in about the last ten games. He's had 27 turnovers in the last 19 games. He's reverted to all his old bad habits since Dabol left. 1 Quote I've got a dribbble, check it out if you like my stuff; alternatively, if you hate my stuff, send it to your enemies to punish their insolence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, throwuascenario said: The Chiefs are literally 3 players and then a 50 man practice squad. Same method that won six Super Bowls in New England. Also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwuascenario Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Cujo said: I literally just agreed with you. 29 minutes ago, Cujo said: Nah, the Bills will never trade him. He'll have a few runs to the divisional round, Buffalo will try a couple rebuilds around him. Philip Rivers 2.0 I thought you were saying that they won't trade him, but should trade him. They obviously won't. I just also think they shouldn't. If I misinterpreted that, my bad! 5 minutes ago, Cujo said: Same method that won six Super Bowls in New England. Also Dude there's literally like at least 5-7 other guys from those Patriots teams that will be in the Hall of Fame. It wasn't even close to just Brady. Kelce will be the absolute only other player on the Chiefs right now that has a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Red Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Unocal said: Mahomes/Burrow are literally the only 2 AFC QB's worth a damn. The gap between them and everyone else is astronomical. Burrow's good but I would put him in a tier with Allen before I put him with Mahomes. I like Josh Allen but he's a turnover machine at times and I don't think you can fix the things that make him "bad" without also taking away what makes him good. Rodgers may be done for good. That's a hell of an injury to recover from when you're not as old as he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypower Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, throwuascenario said: I don't know what he's talking about either but one thing that would go a long way to helping NFL officiating is to make them acutally use replay when they go to replay. Throw out the call on the field and have the sack to actually make a decision based on the replay. If I ever have to hear the phrase "not enough evidence to overturn it" one more time... This is not a he said, she said law case. You have literally dozens of camera angles to make a decision. Who cares what the guy standing 10 yards away who saw it in real time said? What do you think they are doing when they go to replay? They use the dozens of camera angles to make a decision. "not enough evidence to overturn it" means there isn't enough evidence on the film to make a decision on the replay. That's a result from looking at the replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, SFGiants58 said: Live look at the Jets: Yeah, about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanshepherd Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Think of all the draft picks you could get for trading for Josh Allen! And how good they could be! They might even be as good as Josh Allen! 2 Quote i have unquantifiable corpses on my conscience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwuascenario Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, monkeypower said: What do you think they are doing when they go to replay? They use the dozens of camera angles to make a decision. "not enough evidence to overturn it" means there isn't enough evidence on the film to make a decision on the replay. That's a result from looking at the replay. Sorry, I didn't word it well. What I mean is, lower the threshold for overturning the call. Like, if it looks more likely than not (like 51%), than change the call. It shouldn't have to be 100% irrefutable just because the call on the field was different. I'm saying you'll always see the play better on the replay and you're already taking time to look at it so there's no reason to even consider the call on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, throwuascenario said: Dude there's literally like at least 5 other guys from those Patriots teams that will be in the Hall of Fame. It wasn't even close to just Brady. Ok. Who else besides Brady and Gronk are going to Canton from last three SB wins in New England? In the end, the Kansas City Chiefs Mahomes-to-Kelse is still miles better than the present-day Buffalo Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwuascenario Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Germanshepherd said: Think of all the draft picks you could get for trading for Josh Allen! And how good they could be! They might even be as good as Josh Allen! You know how much we've always wanted one of those! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwuascenario Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Cujo said: Ok. Who else besides Brady and Gronk are going to Canton from last three SB wins in New England? The Kansas City Chiefs Mahomes-to-Kelse is still miles better than the present-day Buffalo Bills. Nah, you're not changing it now. You said 6 Super Bowls. Here ya go: - Gronkowski - Ty Law - Richard Seymour - Vinatieri - Gostkowski - Revis - Wilfork I'm sure I'm forgetting someone too. I'm also not even counting the not quite HOF players but good players that the Chiefs have nowhere near like Edelman, Gilmore, McCourty, etc. The Chiefs don't have a WR who breathes the same air as Edelman. They don't have any impact players on their defensive back 7. They're just a bad team with 3 very good players on it. The Patriots were a good team with 3 great players on it. That's a world of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cujo said: Ok. Who else besides Brady and Gronk are going to Canton from last three SB wins in New England? Randy Moss didn't win a Super Bowl with the Pats, but he'll go too. After that, I'm having a hard time coming up with the next 1-3 guys from the entire Brady era in New England that he says are HOFers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwuascenario Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, infrared41 said: Randy Moss didn't win a Super Bowl with the Pats, but he'll go too. After that, I'm having a hard time coming up with the next 1-3 guys from the entire Brady era in New England that he says are HOFers. Counting Moss, there are 3 in the HOF at this moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unocal Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Germanshepherd said: Think of all the draft picks you could get for trading for Josh Allen! And how good they could be! They might even be as good as Josh Allen! You can Build around the line of scrimmage with those draft picks To fortify both lines line play > star QB see: Lions, Eagles, 49ers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, throwuascenario said: - Ty Law - Richard Seymour - Vinatieri - Gostkowski - Revis - Wilfork I'm sure I'm forgetting someone too. I'm also not even counting the not quite HOF players but good players that the Chiefs have nowhere near like Edelman, Gilmore, McCourty, etc. Gostkowski will never sniff Canton. Revis' career was wrapping up by the time he joined the Pats. Might as well add Reggie Wayne and John Lynch to your list. And Julian Edelman?? That's comical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeypower Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, throwuascenario said: Sorry, I didn't word it well. What I mean is, lower the threshold for overturning the call. Like, if it looks more likely than not (like 51%), than change the call. It shouldn't have to be 100% irrefutable just because the call on the field was different. I'm saying you'll always see the play better on the replay and you're already taking time to look at it so there's no reason to even consider the call on the field. "More likely than not" shouldn't be the standard for replay because there's no baseline for what that means. 51% could mean different things to different people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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