MDesign Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I was looking at the map created by axlrush and it got me thinking. Would it be possible that someday the NFL will have a presence in all 50 states...at least 1 team. And if so, what would the names, logos, and unis possibly be?Maybe we can start a design contest for this if you all want to do a concept for your state. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Going over the list of states without the NFL, there are too many of them. You'd have to do relocation of teams also. IMO, areas like New England are so small that a team in Boston (Foxboro) can cover an area of NH, VT, MA, ME, CT, and RI. Some places without NFL will never get NFL (like Wyoming, Montana, the Dakotas, and Alaska) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCBoy Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Going over the list of states without the NFL, there are too many of them. You'd have to do relocation of teams also. IMO, areas like New England are so small that a team in Boston (Foxboro) can cover an area of NH, VT, MA, ME, CT, and RI. Some places without NFL will never get NFL (like Wyoming, Montana, the Dakotas, and Alaska) On the other side of this, some states really should have more than one team (ie. California.) It would be tough to lose a SF 49ERS or an Oakland Raider team because there is so much history, and I would hate to the San Diego Chargers leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rich Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 While I do not believe there is a need to make it so, especially under the league's current operating model, a 50-team NFL COULD be a reality based on the amount of markets within North America. As previous posters have pointed out, this would not equate to a 50 team, "one for each state" scenario, though.Think of it like this. In addition to the 32 teams currently existing in the NFL, there are 15 other North American markets that support major league sports (MLB, NBA, NHL, MLS). These are the markets:1. Memphis2. Orlando3. Columbus4. Raleigh-Durham5. Sacramento6. San Antonio7. Portland, OR8. Vancouver, BC9. Salt Lake City/Utah10. Los Angeles11. Toronto12. Edmonton13. Ottawa14. Calgary15. MontrealAdd to those locations those sites which FORMERLY hosted a major league franchise (Hartford, Winnipeg, Quebec City), sites that curently host CFL franchises (Hamilton, Saskatchewan), a few other key markets that are on the cusp of major league status (Oklahoma City, Las Vegas, Mexico City, Monterrey), and finally consider additional franchises for megalopolises (2 franchises for LA, a second Chicago franchise or a third NY franchise) and you've got well over 50 teams for the NFL.Again, I'm not advocating such a thing; there are too many issues with having such a large unwieldy league. I'm just saying that the markets are there. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Please don't give JH42XCC any more ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleclock Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 A 50 team NFL is not possible right now. The only way it would happen in the next few decades is if they expanded globally. There are a few places that *might* be able to get a team (Los Angeles obviously), but I don't there are 18 places that *might* be able to get a team. NFL teams are extremely expensive. The thought of Winnipeg or Regina in the NFL is laughable. Winnipeg just spent all they had building a nice, new hockey arena, and they still can't get their NHL team back, and NHL teams are probably about 5 times less valuable than NFL teams on average.Most importantly... if every possible market had an NFL team, where would the crappy teams threaten to relocate to??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlands, CA Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 50 team NFL? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I could see, in a couple of decades, a 40-team NFL spread through North America. But no more than that. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kj Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 What an xlrent idea... Buy some t-shirts and stuff at KJ Shop! KJ Branded | Behance portfolio POTD 2013-08-22 On 7/14/2012 at 2:20 AM, tajmccall said: When it comes to style, ya'll really should listen to Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleFan344 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 If you spread the NFL into 50 teams, most teams would suck except like 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian in Boston Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 ... areas like New England are so small that a team in Boston (Foxboro) can cover an area of NH, VT, MA, ME, CT, and RI. When you say "small", I assume you're not talking about distance. In actuality, the distance from the northernmost point in Maine to Connecticut's southeastern border with New York is roughly equal to the distance from New York City to Charlotte, North Carolina... or from Los Angeles to Salt Lake City. Hell, the distance from Maine's northernmost point to southernmost point is approximately the same distance as a drive from Chicago to St. Louis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 If you spread the NFL into 50 teams, most teams would suck except like 2. Yeah. Can you even imagine how huge the NFL draft would be? plop. I could probably be drafted if that were to ever happen On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwtrailtrekker Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 teams would be alot worse, but instead of 50 teams in the NFL, you could have a minor league NFL, so smaller cities could hold teams.For instance the Seahawks could have a minor league team in A. Portland, ORorB. Vancouver, BCprobably Portland.Buffalo-RochesterSan Diego-Los Angeles???SF- RenoOakland- Fresno/StocktonArizona- Las VegasHouston- San Antoniomaybe....it would give the NFL an idea of which cities could be suited as a possible future NFL franchise, and its a good way to make some dought on ticket sales, merch, etc, reach out to communtities, and put those 5th stringers on the field and get tem some expierience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winters in buffalo Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 If you spread the NFL into 50 teams, most teams would suck except like 2. Isn't that what they said about expanding from 28 teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 teams would be alot worse, but instead of 50 teams in the NFL, you could have a minor league NFL, so smaller cities could hold teams.For instance the Seahawks could have a minor league team in A. Portland, ORorB. Vancouver, BCprobably Portland.Buffalo-RochesterSan Diego-Los Angeles???SF- RenoOakland- Fresno/StocktonArizona- Las VegasHouston- San Antoniomaybe....it would give the NFL an idea of which cities could be suited as a possible future NFL franchise, and its a good way to make some dought on ticket sales, merch, etc, reach out to communtities, and put those 5th stringers on the field and get tem some expierience. Please...Don't let JH42XCC see this thread. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDesign Posted December 3, 2005 Author Share Posted December 3, 2005 teams would be alot worse, but instead of 50 teams in the NFL, you could have a minor league NFL, so smaller cities could hold teams.For instance the Seahawks could have a minor league team in A. Portland, ORorB. Vancouver, BCprobably Portland.Buffalo-RochesterSan Diego-Los Angeles???SF- RenoOakland- Fresno/StocktonArizona- Las VegasHouston- San Antoniomaybe....it would give the NFL an idea of which cities could be suited as a possible future NFL franchise, and its a good way to make some dought on ticket sales, merch, etc, reach out to communtities, and put those 5th stringers on the field and get tem some expierience. ok, all points made make sense. Especially about everyone sucking the big one. However I find the quoted idea very interesting.Maybe it would even work for players like Clarett who think they can make it in the NFL like a farm league call up, call down kind of thing.Cool idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 ... areas like New England are so small that a team in Boston (Foxboro) can cover an area of NH, VT, MA, ME, CT, and RI. When you say "small", I assume you're not talking about distance. In actuality, the distance from the northernmost point in Maine to Connecticut's southeastern border with New York is roughly equal to the distance from New York City to Charlotte, North Carolina... or from Los Angeles to Salt Lake City. Hell, the distance from Maine's northernmost point to southernmost point is approximately the same distance as a drive from Chicago to St. Louis. Yeah, but Mass, Conn, and RI are all pretty close to one another ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 teams would be alot worse, but instead of 50 teams in the NFL, you could have a minor league NFL, so smaller cities could hold teams.For instance the Seahawks could have a minor league team in A. Portland, ORorB. Vancouver, BCprobably Portland.Buffalo-RochesterSan Diego-Los Angeles???SF- RenoOakland- Fresno/StocktonArizona- Las VegasHouston- San Antoniomaybe....it would give the NFL an idea of which cities could be suited as a possible future NFL franchise, and its a good way to make some dought on ticket sales, merch, etc, reach out to communtities, and put those 5th stringers on the field and get tem some expierience. ok, all points made make sense. Especially about everyone sucking the big one. However I find the quoted idea very interesting.Maybe it would even work for players like Clarett who think they can make it in the NFL like a farm league call up, call down kind of thing.Cool idea.I can see it now, the NFDL...Hey didn't you used to be the WLAF? On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwtrailtrekker Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 i think sometime i may come up with some possible minor leaue franchise locations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwtrailtrekker Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 ARZ- Las Vegas CardinalsATL- Birmingham FalconsBAL- Wilmington BlackbirdsBUF- Rochester BuffalosCAR- Charleston LynxCHI- Springfield CubsCIN- Columbus TigersCLE- Canton Legends DAL- Fort Worth StarsDEN- Salt Lake MustangsDET- Lansing LionsGB- Milwaukee CheeseheadsHOU- San Antonio LonghornsIND- Louisville StallionsJAC- Savannah CatsKC- Oklahoma City ChiefsMIA- Orlando DolphinsMIN- St. Paul VikingsNE- Burlington AmericansNO- Biloxi SaintsNYG- Rhode Island Giants (kind of an oxymoron) NYJ- Bridgeport JetsOAK-Reno RaidersPHI- Allentown EaglesPIT- Charleston SteelSD- Los Angeles ChargeSF- San Jose GolddiggazSEA- Portland SeagullsSTL- Little Rock RamsTB- St. Pete PiratesTEN- Memphis GoliathsWAS- Norfolk Redskins (or Redneck hillbillies)on my count that is 38 states accounted for w/ eiither a major or minor football team. hope you like the names, i tried to keep them like thier father clubs, but i decidied to alter a few. all would carry the near same colors as there fathe clubs and many the same name, so we never forget who is affliliated with who.in fact, this would be a great design contest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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