MLB Logo&Uniform changes

[hawk36]

I'm impressed that there's enough demand for the brown that they acknowledged it.

Maybe next revision, in about five years.

Oh they acknowledge it in the paper all the time. But there's not much actual demand for it beyond a small group who meets at a taco shop outside right field. And of course a few folks on here. Most people I think are quite happy to have brown stay where it belongs, in the past. And it looks like that's what Moorad favors as well.

I'd disagree. I grew up in San Diego (Chula Vista) and still have a majority of my family there. Seems pretty overwhelming in my circle of family and friends in favor of brown for Padres. That's not to say that my family or friends speak for Padres fans, but it's a pretty consistent opinion, and we're outside the right field taco shop brigade. Maybe it's a Chula Vista thing?

[TheOldRoman]

I think we can all agree that the Padres are screwing up regardless.

[hawk36]

I think we can all agree that the Padres are screwing up regardless.

Unfortunately I think you're right. Really sad since they have a great look from 1969 just sitting there. Wouldn't have to pay for a redesign, just use what was the best uni in team history.

[The Mojo Maniac]

That pinstriped Padres uniform looks way too much like the Twins' de facto home uniform. They're screwing up.

Agreed--*if* that really is the new jersey/script. But

But speaking of the Twins, I really hope their de facto home unis (the cream colored Killewbrew era ones) remain as the primary home. The regular white ones are way too Metrodome/indoorsy, and IMO the cream color matches the colors and ambiance of Target Field much better.

[bosrs1]

I think we can all agree that the Padres are screwing up regardless.

I disagree. I think going back to their PCL look is a very good idea (and by no means was I suggesting the pinstripe the only option with that particular word mark that they could pull from. More that they're going to use that wordmark probably on a jersey somewhat like their 2004-present jersey). It would be a good idea too IMO since the 2004 jersey was supposed to be paying homage to the PCL unis but they failed by not just using the PCL script. If they do it right this time, which they may very well do based on what the rumor mill has been churning out, it will be a great look for the team, hopefully one they'll keep long term. Because whatever it is they need to stick with something for a couple of decades.

[bosrs1]

Nobody's suggesting that they're actually going to wear that 1950 jersey.

He's inferring from the phrase "the look will be more traditional" that they'll be adopting elements of the PCL club. I don't know how good his inference is.

It's a good inference in context since there have been hints from the local media for weeks that a PCL style revamp is coming crossed with the current color scheme sans sand. A "traditional" look that is not piss and poop (yellow and brown) would be in line with the PCL idea since it's the probably other "traditional" style the Pads have had. Unless of course the FO considers this traditional.

[fifthandlaurel]

Just because they're cleaning up a redesign they did 8 years ago doesn't mean that it's necessarily a good thing. As far as getting rid of the sand and adopting grey to what will more than likely be a cleaner, PCL-looking wordmark, I don't know if marrying the minor league days to the 2003 home look is a good idea. It might clean up an otherwise flawed look - which I'm all for - but the "evolution instead of revolution" change they're going for is more baseball traditional (see: going grey), but it's not necessarily a Padres tradition.

This isn't always the case, but members of my father's family have lived in San Diego for the past 80 some-odd years and they still think that brown best represents the Padres. Not the PCL days, when their color scheme changed several times as well. Brown and yellow doesn't have to be "poop and piss."

[bosrs1]

Just because they're cleaning up a redesign they did 8 years ago doesn't mean that it's necessarily a good thing. As far as getting rid of the sand and adopting grey to what will more than likely be a cleaner, PCL-looking wordmark, I don't know if marrying the minor league days to the 2003 home look is a good idea. It might clean up an otherwise flawed look - which I'm all for - but the "evolution instead of revolution" change they're going for is more baseball traditional (see: going grey), but it's not necessarily a Padres tradition.

This isn't always the case, but members of my father's family have lived in San Diego for the past 80 some-odd years and they still think that brown best represents the Padres. Not the PCL days, when their color scheme changed several times as well. Brown and yellow doesn't have to be "poop and piss."

Doesn't mean it's bad either though. As for "Padres tradition", if anything the Padres tradition is to have no tradition. The brown and gold only lasted 15 years (with only the first 3 of those years being at all stylish), while blue has been around now for just short of 20 years. Neither is really a "tradition" but frankly blue has as much if not more claim to fame than the brown (not to mention it has coincided with far more success on field than brown ever was).

As for anecdotal family stories, members of my family who are still alive and kicking have been living here for 91 years last week and they're partial to blue over brown as am I.

[NDwas]

The Padres will not be wearing pinstripes, but the uniform style will definitely be more traditional than what they've worn for the last 8 seasons. The "new" identity certainly follows MLB's desire to borrow a lot of little things from the past but keep the team close to its current look.

[Gothamite]

piss and poop

You stay classy.

[bosrs1]

piss and poop

You stay classy.

I will wearing the new jersey blue jersey

[fifthandlaurel]

Doesn't mean it's bad either though. As for "Padres tradition", if anything the Padres tradition is to have no tradition. The brown and gold only lasted 15 years (with only the first 3 of those years being at all stylish), while blue has been around now for just short of 20 years. Neither is really a "tradition" but frankly blue has as much if not more claim to fame than the brown (not to mention it has coincided with far more success on field than brown ever was).

All fair points, especially with the Padres' tradition being a distinct lack of continuity/tradition. For the record, I don't have a problem with blue in and of itself but simply asking if there a single PCL look that people prefer when they refer to this traditional look. To say that incorporating the PCL script as an homage to their past simply seems like a flimsy explanation to me. I'd prefer it if they just said, "we're cleaning up an ill-thought out look from a few years ago." Franky, I'd prefer that.

As for anecdotal family stories, members of my family who are still alive and kicking have been living here for 91 years last week and they're partial to blue over brown as am I.

Certainly, and it wasn't my intention to use my single example to discredit what others believe. My point was that while you can argue that a return to the PCL look is upholding tradition while brown is merely "poop and piss" isn't necessarily indicative of what everybody believes about those colors. You could just as easily argue that a return to the brown/gold of past years is an homage to 70s style and piss-poor performance as you could that the PCL wordmark is return to - well - a semi-professional, regional baseball league. Personally, I prefer brown because it's uniquely limited to the Padres.

Preference is preference and tradition is, as you pointed out, open to interpretation given as many changes as they've undergone. I'd simply prefer that the powers that be - who saw fit to introduce the wholly non-unique "Sedona" red into the Diamondbacks' color palette - stop trying to pretend this is anything other than trying to create a new brand. It started with stating that the club was trying to adapt a more global image with the interlocking 'SD' and it's continuing with incorporating more traditional and identifiable baseball colors.

[larrypep]

piss and poop

You stay classy.

Seriously. "Piss and Poop". Grow up.

[HighCheese]

Or it could be like the Brewers, where a significant percentage of the fans (in Milwaukee's case, a likely outright majority) like the old scheme, but the team won't adopt it because they're happy selling tchotchkes both old-school and new.

Dodger Stadium anniversary logo

dodgers past few patches have been really great. especially the "55 since 55" one. i really like this and im guessing they will wear it since they wore anniversary patches in 2008 and 2010

It's a fantastic logo, but I'm not sure how it'll work as a patch.

I think sleeve patches are best when vertically aligned, or even roughly square. Horizontal logos don't always look best on a sleeve, which is longer than it is wide.

they'll still do it though imo

dodgers love doing patches, and i do too.

2010 patch was similar

[FiddySicks]

Just because they're cleaning up a redesign they did 8 years ago doesn't mean that it's necessarily a good thing.

That's essentially how I feel about this too. I FULLY expect the Pads to totally half ass this whole redesign to where all they do is slightly alter some word marks and ditch the sand, which is a mistake IMO. But half assing uniform and logo sets seems to be par for the course with this team so that's why I feel that way.

The only way the Pads could do themselves some good with this redesign is if they followed more along the lines of what the old Portland Beavers wore just before they moved. Those were basically the same colors, but the piping really gave it that old school feel. That I'd be good with. But I really don't expect it.

[Gothamite]

Hope not - I still want the Brewers to adopt that piping style.

[oddball]

Dodger Stadium anniversary logo

dodgers past few patches have been really great. especially the "55 since 55" one. i really like this and im guessing they will wear it since they wore anniversary patches in 2008 and 2010

That logo is absolutely perfect... it perfectly sums up the Frank McCourt era and the fact that Dodger Stadium was empty on game day because of him!

[hawk36]

My problem with the Padres and blue has always been what does blue have to do with brown robed friars? It would be one thing if they had a 100 year history like the Tigers (blue for black/orange tigers or Notre Dame blue for green Irish). but they don't. So, why not embrace the unique color of the mascot?

Furthermore, don't we already have enough blue MLB teams?

[bosrs1]

My problem with the Padres and blue has always been what does blue have to do with brown robed friars? It would be one thing if they had a 100 year history like the Tigers (blue for black/orange tigers or Notre Dame blue for green Irish). but they don't. So, why not embrace the unique color of the mascot?

Furthermore, don't we already have enough blue MLB teams?

It's a common misconception that friars only wear brown. Many wear the same blue the Padres wear including the Franciscans who were the friars in San Diego. Not to mention it's a fitting homage to the Navy in arguable THE Navy town.

[Gothamite]

I think there are a few cities on the East Coast that might dispute your title. Possibly one in Maryland, and certainly one in Virginia.

My problem with the navy is that it's such a transparent cash grab, as they admitted when they went with the blue-and-white Dodger ripoffs.

Plus brown and gold is a simple, classic and very gorgeous color combination, sadly unused in the merchandising-first pro sports world today.