drdougfresh Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 My thoughts: I agree with worcat. Bringing back all these old names is kind of boring, TBH. There are some new ones, but why not come up with a new identity for each[b/] team in the expansion? Otherwise, everything is predictable. Whalers & Nordiques I would keep, but the rest should be something new IMO.Ok, just so I'm clear on this: do you mean new locations or new team names, but same location?Like instead the Kansas City Scouts, it could be the Kansas Wheat, Arkansas Blades, Rochester Tigers, etc etc?Whatever makes the most sense. One small part to a successful identity (IMO) is coming up with names for teams that have meaning past "that's what they were before". Look at all the recent franchises-- they're mostly specific to the city in some way, not a generic team name that 'sounds cool', like Wildcats or Tigers.Also, look at the viability of the expansion. Would the team survive in said city?Obviously, this is your project. I just think it's a lot more fun when there's thought put into it. When you have a solid backing (IE proof, need, statistics, etc.) for your expansions, it makes it a lot more believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Hey guys,We've decided on our 10 NHL expansion teams:Des Moines RaccoonsArkansas BearsHartford WhalersQuebec NordiquesKansas City ScoutsHalifax AcadiansThunder Bay SuperiorsRochester AmericansHamilton TigersMilwaukee AdmiralsEASTERN CONF:Atlantic: Boston, Florida, Halifax, hartford, New Jersey, New York Islanders, New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, WashingtonNortheast: Buffalo, Carolina, Hamilton, Montreal, Nashville, Ottawa, Pittsburgh, Quebec, Rochester, TorontoWESTERN CONF:Central: Arkansas, Chicago, Columbus, Dallas, Des Moines, Detroit, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Minnesota, St. LouisPacific: Anaheim, Calagry, Colorado, Edmonton, Los Angeles, Phoenix, San Jose, Thunder Bay, Vancouver, WinnipegThoughts?? I might switch Nashville and Columbus so Arkansas can have. "natural" rival with Nashville. Will probably work on NFL next....Thanks!I didn't get to share in time, but I wish you had either Seattle or Portland included for the NHL, as the US Pacific Northwest is pretty bare.As for the NFL & MLB:MLBCarolina Flyers (Wright Bros.)Portland OrcasExploradors de San Juan (Puerto Rico)NFLLos Angeles AztecsSan Antonio Defenders (cavalry, cannons, etc.)New Mexico Nighthawks (think this, since they were based there)Oklahoma OutlawsVancouver Villains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughRiders9 Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Ok, after reading drdough's posts and I have to agree with him. It just seems a little boring to me now to "bring" every old team back and put them in the league. So based on his opinions, I've made several changes:Western CentralArkansas Blades*Chicago BlackhawksDallas StarsDes Moines Raccoons*Detroit Red WingsKansas Twisters*Milwaukee Admirals*Minnesota WildNashville PredatorsSt. Louis BluesWestern PacificMighty Ducks of AnaheimCalgary FlamesColorado AvalancheEdmonton OilersLos Angeles KingsPhoenix CoyotesSan Jose SharksThunder Bay Superiors*Vancouver CanucksWinnipeg JetsEastern AtlanticBoston BruinsFlorida PanthersHalifax Acadians*Hartford Whalers*New Jersey DevilsNew York IslandersNew York RangersPhiladelphia FlyersTampa Bay LightningWashington CapitalsEastern NortheastBuffalo SabresCarolina HurricanesColumbus Blue JacketsHamilton Bulldogs*Montreal CanadiensOttawa SenatorsPittsburgh PenguinsQuebec Nordiques*Rochester Tigers*Toronto Maple Leafs* - expansion teamsI know there are still a few "old" teams but I think they would work just fine in that. And most of the expansion teams are now more "new" Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Wind of Doom Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I've had much fun playing with the concept of a third MLB league, so I've got a lot of concepts I'd like to eventually share on here when I get things presentable. Let me offer some of my favorite team identities.MLB1: Iowa Oaks2: Arkansas Travelers3: Portland Beavers4: Montreal Expos5: San Antonio Missions6: New Orleans Cajuns7: Las Vegas Superstars8: New Jersey Guards (Atlantic City, NJ)9: Richmond Rebels10: Indianapolis StallionsNFL1: Iowa Barnstormers2: Arkansas Outlaws3: Los Angeles Hills4: Utah Knights (Salt Lake City, UT)5: Oklahoma Okies6: Mexico Warriors (Monterrey, Mexico)7: Vancouver Lumberjacks8: Portland Whalers9: Canton Cougars10: Toronto TyrantsNBA1: Iowa Monks (Des Moines is French for "The Monks" and it's all I've got)2: Arkansas Diamonds3: Seattle Supersonics4: Kansas City Princes5: Santa Fe Desert Foxes (regal term to go with fellow regal terms "Royal" and "Chief")6: Mississippi Rivers7: San Antonio Outlaws8: Montreal Triomphe9: Pittsburgh Quakers10: Oakland Earthquakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughRiders9 Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 I've had much fun playing with the concept of a third MLB league, so I've got a lot of concepts I'd like to eventually share on here when I get things presentable. Let me offer some of my favorite team identities.MLB1: Iowa Oaks2: Arkansas Travelers3: Portland Beavers4: Montreal Expos5: San Antonio Missions6: New Orleans Cajuns7: Las Vegas Superstars8: New Jersey Guards (Atlantic City, NJ)9: Richmond Rebels10: Indianapolis StallionsNFL1: Iowa Barnstormers2: Arkansas Outlaws3: Los Angeles Hills4: Utah Knights (Salt Lake City, UT)5: Oklahoma Okies6: Mexico Warriors (Monterrey, Mexico)7: Vancouver Lumberjacks8: Portland Whalers9: Canton Cougars10: Toronto TyrantsNBA1: Iowa Monks (Des Moines is French for "The Monks" and it's all I've got)2: Arkansas Diamonds3: Seattle Supersonics4: Kansas City Princes5: Santa Fe Desert Foxes (regal term to go with fellow regal terms "Royal" and "Chief")6: Mississippi Rivers7: San Antonio Outlaws8: Montreal Triomphe9: Pittsburgh Quakers10: Oakland EarthquakesYour ideas/suggestions would help me a lot! Thanks a bunch!Also I want to add a few pictures of the excel spreadsheet where I've realinged the league according to the expanded teams:NHL:Teams in ABC orderI'm somewhat "final" with the NHL.NFL: Expanded teams listed last in their division (1 per division)I would say that I'm about halfway done with the NFL but I feel very confident about this. I do might need some help with the NFL realignments tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdougfresh Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 If you swap Carolina and Tampa Bay for Dallas and Arkansas, you have a lot better regional breakdown in the NFC. Maybe swap Indy and Kentucky in the AFC, but other than that, it looks like a good layout for the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughRiders9 Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 If you swap Carolina and Tampa Bay for Dallas and Arkansas, you have a lot better regional breakdown in the NFC. Maybe swap Indy and Kentucky in the AFC, but other than that, it looks like a good layout for the NFL.I can understand where you're coming from for the NFC South/East. However, the Cowboys already have a strong strong rivalry with the other 3 "orignal" teams (Giants, 'Skins and Eagles) so I may keep them in there. I might swap Arkansas with either Tampa Bay or Carolina tho. I will most likely swap with Indy/Kentucky. More Brady-Manning match-ups! yay! Thanks for the feedbacks!Also, how do you think the team names look for the expansion teams for the NFL? No more "old" teams, right? haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aci Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Just a thought for your NHL alignment, but Thunder Bay should definitely not be in the Pacific. Swapping them with Dallas, Des Moines or Kansas would seem to make the most sense. Hamilton Eagles- 2012 and 2013 Continental Hockey League Champions! 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 & 2015 CHL East Division Champions! Niagara Dragoons- 2012 United League and CCSLC World Series Champions! 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015 UL Robinson Division Champions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody21 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 how about halifax destroyer sor yukon polar bears. the regina rails also sounds good for canadian teams. in the nfl, new jersey knights, detriot gladiators and las vegas aces also work In the last game against Detroit, the time from ten minutes left to one minute left was probably the longest nine minutes of my life. But from one to zero was probably the greatest time I've ever had. I didn't want the clock to run out. It was such a great feeling: people crying in the stands, people jumping up and down, people cheering. Guys couldn't even sit up on the bench. It was probably the best minute of my life.Ah, the "I'm kidding" - the universal internet excuse for saying something that others perceived as dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoughRiders9 Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Here's a few updates for NHL and NFL, and now I've added MLB as well. The realignments for NHL and NFL are pretty much done, but I'm still unsure about MLB tho. If you have any ideas/suggestions for the MLB realignment, just say so! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Watt Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 For your NFL league, how about switching Canton to the NFC North and Iowa to the AFC North. I just think that 3 teams, all from Ohio, in the same division would be a little much. I would also somehow get New Mexico into the NFC West, seeing that it is far more "western" then St. Louis. Just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdougfresh Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 For your NFL league, how about switching Canton to the NFC North and Iowa to the AFC North. I just think that 3 teams, all from Ohio, in the same division would be a little much. I would also somehow get New Mexico into the NFC West, seeing that it is far more "western" then St. Louis. Just my 2 cents +1 to this. I would also swap Carolina and Tampa, seeing as how Tampa is much closer the the South teams, and Carolina is closer to the East teams. It might help to map something out to make sense of it, that way you can keep the divisions fairly regional (if that's what you're going for). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnclearInitial Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 MLB1: Iowa Oaks2: Arkansas Travelers3: Portland Beavers4: Montreal Expos5: San Antonio Missions6: New Orleans Crescents (Crescent City)7: Las Vegas Luck8: Memphis Bears9: San Juan Conquistadores10: Indianapolis Racers (race cars)NFL1: Hawaii Aloha 2: Arkansas Outlaws3: Los Angeles Demons (Opposite of angel: demons)4: Salt Lake City Seagulls (state bird)5: Oklahoma City Oxen (cattle market)6: Omaha Nighthawks7: San Antonio Rebels8: Portland Lumberjacks9: Virginia Navigators (Norfolk, VA, tied to sailing)10: Sacramento CondorsNBA1: Des Moines Norsemen 2: Arkansas Diamonds3: Seattle Supersonics4: Kansas City Tornadoes5: Spirit of St. Louis6: Vancouver Orcas7: Richmond Presidents (Virginia has the most presidents)8: Las Vegas Silver9: Albuquerque Roadrunners10: Columbus SurveyorsNHL1. Cleveland Barons2. Hamilton Tigers3. Quebec Nordiques4. Halifax Highlanders5. Anchorage Salmons6. Seattle Coffee7. Portland Beavers8. Milwaukee Engine9. Louisville Throughbreds10. Grand Rapids Flood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilEmpire Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 NFLCanton BulldogsLos Angeles AztecsDuluth EskimosIowa MaizeArkansas BullsMLBNew Orleans Hurricanes(probably would be somewhat conterversial, Ive always liked how the name sounds)Hawaii IslandersLas Vegas BlackjacksIowa FinchesArkansas CatfishNHLIowa EthanolArkansas FlatheadsDuluth WolvesAnchorage EskimosNew England RebelsSeattle PelicansThunderbay ThunderbirdsBuffalo BlizzardNBANew York LibertyPittsburgh LightningLas Vegas MartiansSeattle SupersonicsNashville MusicJust some ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHawk447 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 @RR I would switch Halifax with Carolina in the NHL, and Memphis w/ one of the Texas entries in MLB (most likely expansion San Antonio).@anythinglogos Definitely feeling the "Vancouver Orcas" name...if the Canucks' owners were to make a play to bring the NBA back to Vancouver, that name'd be PERFECT![447] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmond Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I know that you're basically done with the NHL ... but I LOVE the idea of incorporating Anchorage into a newly expanded league.Based on what you have above, I would ditch one of your mid-western teams, Kansas for arguments sake. Then move Dallas over to the Western Central group, and then add the Anchorage Moose (or whatever) to the Pacific group. It would be a unique attraction as the only Alaskan team in pro-sports ... and Sarah Palin could be the #1 ticket holder ... oh, wait a minute! Get on board with the Anchorage Moose! Thanks to Gobbi for the awesome buttons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Wind of Doom Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I've had much fun playing with the concept of a third MLB league, so I've got a lot of concepts I'd like to eventually share on here when I get things presentable. Let me offer some of my favorite team identities.MLB1: Iowa Oaks2: Arkansas Travelers3: Portland Beavers4: Montreal Expos5: San Antonio Missions6: New Orleans Cajuns7: Las Vegas Superstars8: New Jersey Guards (Atlantic City, NJ)9: Richmond Rebels10: Indianapolis StallionsNFL1: Iowa Barnstormers2: Arkansas Outlaws3: Los Angeles Hills4: Utah Knights (Salt Lake City, UT)5: Oklahoma Okies6: Mexico Warriors (Monterrey, Mexico)7: Vancouver Lumberjacks8: Portland Whalers9: Canton Cougars10: Toronto TyrantsNBA1: Iowa Monks (Des Moines is French for "The Monks" and it's all I've got)2: Arkansas Diamonds3: Seattle Supersonics4: Kansas City Princes5: Santa Fe Desert Foxes (regal term to go with fellow regal terms "Royal" and "Chief")6: Mississippi Rivers7: San Antonio Outlaws8: Montreal Triomphe9: Pittsburgh Quakers10: Oakland EarthquakesYour ideas/suggestions would help me a lot! Thanks a bunch!What other ideas/suggestions are you looking for besides the names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fumbler Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Anchorage would be an ideal spot for NHL with the population of that area of around 300,000 and good sponsorship opportunities.I know that you're basically done with the NHL ... but I LOVE the idea of incorporating Anchorage into a newly expanded league.Based on what you have above, I would ditch one of your mid-western teams, Kansas for arguments sake. Then move Dallas over to the Western Central group, and then add the Anchorage Moose (or whatever) to the Pacific group. It would be a unique attraction as the only Alaskan team in pro-sports ... and Sarah Palin could be the #1 ticket holder ... oh, wait a minute! Get on board with the Anchorage Moose!Why has no one done it before? RICHMOND TIGERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxweb81 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 For the NFL to make it 40 teams. I would do...Los Angeles CometsPortland PioneersUtah Jacks (Represent Jack Rabbits or Lumberjacks not 100 on this name)Las Vegas SpadesOklahoma City MarshallsSan Antonio Rebels/Outlaws/Vipers/Bandits (One of those four)Virginia Crushers (or I liked Navigators stated above)Toronto CougarsSolid Names and solid geography wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Sorry to be joining in so late on the thread, but I just wanted to suggest a change for the Halifax Acadians. Acadians are usually association more closely with New Brunswick rather than Nova Scotia. The population of Acadians in Halifax is minimal which is why I suggest the team be named Halifax Schooners. The great shipbuilding tradition in Nova Scotia, associated with the fact that the name was already suggest for a CFL team, would make it a perfect fit for the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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