Brian in Boston Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Well if he or the Board of Governors have a positive spin to put on the disastrous run the Coyotes franchise has had so far, I'd like to hear it. Don't just brush off huge numbers (400 MILLION DOLLARS!) like they mean nothing. That makes Gary Bettman, loyal employee of the Board of Governors, look like he simply doesn't have a response to a question that I think is on alot of hockey fans' minds. Maybe the Board of Governors should've given him better talking points but the point is that he brushed off a pretty huge economical fact like it meant nothing. Why did he not face up to it and make a counter argument?I'd say that it is because both Bettman and the Board of Governors don't believe that there is anything to be gained from getting into an in-depth, publicly-broadcast conversation about the Coyotes' finances prior to a legal ruling coming down regarding the franchise's future. In fact, the only in-depth conversations that they're likely to engage in on the subject in the foreseeable future will undoubtedly be with the judge overseeing the case. Frankly, that shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. Further, how often do modern professional sports franchises come completely clean about issues surrounding their finances? That information is, to the minds of pro sports owners, on a "need to know" basis... and 9 times out of 10, they're not inclined to believe that sports fans "need to know". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I'm about a minute into this. Is Hockey Night in Canada taped in a broom closet? Could these two guys be staged any more awkwardly than they are here? Between this and that one clip where Pierre McGuire is standing uncomfortably close to the other host (I'll find this in a second), I'm starting to wonder if Canadians lack spatial reasoning.EDIT: Yeah, this one. As someone with a big bubble, just watching this stuff makes me feel weird. As for Bettman's performance, I'd say he handled himself fairly well as far as the content went, but he clearly looked and sounded outmatched against a professional broadcaster in a, well, broadcast setting. I think MacLean made Bettman come off worse than he really did by being taller, louder, and more confident. I still think Bettman is full of crap, though. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 On the whole, I think you're right. But I also think that Bettman made it worse by anticipating the obvious questions and coming into the interview with canned answers. Problem is that they were terrible canned answers - "I'd tell them before I tell you."Comedy obviously isn't your forte, Commish. What you probably meant to be light and casual came off as boorish and ill-tempered. Best stick to earnestness. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL FANATIC Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Comedy obviously isn't your forte, Commish. What you probably meant to be light and casual came off as boorish and ill-tempered. Best stick to earnestness.I dunno if it was intended to be comedic or not. I frankly liked it as a brash "that's a stupid question" response. JUSTIN STRIEBEL | PORTFOLIO | RESUME | CONTACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenatorJake Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Grou...iday-PC/1/21449Yeah I know, take it for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Comedy obviously isn't your forte, Commish. What you probably meant to be light and casual came off as boorish and ill-tempered. Best stick to earnestness.I dunno if it was intended to be comedic or not. I frankly liked it as a brash "that's a stupid question" response.Yeah, but you can only get away with a brash "that's a stupid question" response if you can do it with a smile. Otherwise you end up looking like a creep. As Bettman did. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Grou...iday-PC/1/21449Yeah I know, take it for what it's worth.Substantially less than $1 Billion, I'm guessing."We're gonna get a billion dollars! We're gonna build a new arena! We're gonna put a second team here! And we're doing it all to cure cancer and support our troops!" I can't believe a word of that release, it's so pie-in-the-sky ridiculous, even before any specifics have been mentioned. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Grou...iday-PC/1/21449Yeah I know, take it for what it's worth.Substantially less than $1 Billion, I'm guessing."We're gonna get a billion dollars! We're gonna build a new arena! We're gonna put a second team here! And we're doing it all to cure cancer and support our troops!" I can't believe a word of that release, it's so pie-in-the-sky ridiculous, even before any specifics have been mentioned.The man gets paid to make up crappy rumors let alone a decent article.I think we need to get back to reality on this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Comedy obviously isn't your forte, Commish. What you probably meant to be light and casual came off as boorish and ill-tempered. Best stick to earnestness.I dunno if it was intended to be comedic or not. I frankly liked it as a brash "that's a stupid question" response.Yeah, but you can only get away with a brash "that's a stupid question" response if you can do it with a smile. Otherwise you end up looking like a creep. As Bettman did.Yeah, really. I'm not totally sure about this, not being Canadian, but I'm pretty sure that Doug MacLean and Don Cherry are Real Canadian Heroes of some sort, several notches above whatever high esteem our American analogues (Al Michaels and John Madden? Howard Cosell?) are held in. Who is Gary freakin' Bettman going to impress by trying to smack down Doug MacLean? Given that the point of doing a public appearance like this is to smooth out the tension over the Balsillie affair, to allay the Canadian public's fears that the NHL doesn't want any more to do with Canada than they already have to, how does it help the situation to go on Canadian television and essentially tell Canada (their interests implicitly represented by MacLean) to get bent? This isn't the place to be brash. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Comedy obviously isn't your forte, Commish. What you probably meant to be light and casual came off as boorish and ill-tempered. Best stick to earnestness.I dunno if it was intended to be comedic or not. I frankly liked it as a brash "that's a stupid question" response.Yeah, but you can only get away with a brash "that's a stupid question" response if you can do it with a smile. Otherwise you end up looking like a creep. As Bettman did.Yeah, really. I'm not totally sure about this, not being Canadian, but I'm pretty sure that Doug MacLean and Don Cherry are Real Canadian Heroes of some sort, several notches above whatever high esteem our American analogues (Al Michaels and John Madden? Howard Cosell?) are held in. Who is Gary freakin' Bettman going to impress by trying to smack down Doug MacLean? Given that the point of doing a public appearance like this is to smooth out the tension over the Balsillie affair, to allay the Canadian public's fears that the NHL doesn't want any more to do with Canada than they already have to, how does it help the situation to go on Canadian television and essentially tell Canada (their interests implicitly represented by MacLean) to get bent? This isn't the place to be brash.Or it could be that he and the BOG flat out don't care what they think. The only way it can get worse for Bettman is if he starts fielding death threats en masse, and as long as the Canuckistanis buy tickets and watch games on TV, the owners are happy. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Ah.. forget it... I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger77 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 A billion? Did they get the money from Ed Belfour?-Dan PotD May 11th, 2011looooooogodud: June 7th 2010 - July 5th 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenatorJake Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 A billion? Did they get the money from Ed Belfour?-DanHahahaha! "Do you know who I am? I'm Ed :censored:ing Belfour!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 As for Bettman's point how when you buy an NHL franchise, you buy a franchise in a given city, that might hold some water if Bettman and the BOG had any sort of precedent for this. I could understand this argument in baseball, where the bigs went 30+ years between relocations with so many potential moves averted in between. "You bought a NHL franchise in Winnipeg" was no obstacle. Of course, everything's relative given the market sizes, but just say you're in it for money you think you can make there (you can't/won't) instead of trying to make it an ideological thing with comparisons to Tim Hortons locations or whatever. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 A billion? Did they get the money from Ed Belfour?-DanHe's still making it hand over fist from his role with the WHA's Dallas Americans, right? On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=280970"From a players' perspective, it's time to pull the plug," Kelly told The Spectator.Kelly posed the question: "How much money must (a franchise) lose before someone says, ?perhaps they ought not to be there?'"Three hundred million and one dollars, I guess. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 4 Apply to keep the Coyotes in PhoenixThis is definitely positive news as Jerry Reinsdorf(who were rumored to move the franchise to Vegas) is one of the men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I guess the Argos really don't want anyone else cutting in on their action, huh? On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I guess the Argos really don't want anyone else cutting in on their action, huh?I would have suspected Bob Young to be a potential owner, because it would his team that would be affected I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenatorJake Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 For anyone who has been following the so-called "precedent setting case" currently in Arizona bankruptcy court involving the relocation of the Phoenix Coyotes, here is an interesting article from the Hamilton Spectator.http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/579325Turns out the precedent was set in 1970 when the Seattle Pilots moved to Milwaukee. And the man who wanted to move them was... a young Bud Selig."And now you know, the rest of the story." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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