chcarlson23 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 27 minutes ago, Whittier S said: Jlnhlsegafan is not going to pay attention to constructive criticism. This has been established. Let's let this thread sink. I'm going to agree with this. He's taken all constructive criticism that we've given him on REALLY REALLY REALLY rough concepts, taken them as personal attacks, thrown it out the window and decided to make more rough concepts... "And those who know Your Name put their trust in You, for You, O Lord, have not forsaken those who seek You." Psalms 9:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedfieldNick Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Whittier S said: Jlnhlsegafan is not going to pay attention to constructive criticism. This has been established. Let's let this thread sink. 47 minutes ago, chcarlson23 said: I'm going to agree with this. He's taken all constructive criticism that we've given him on REALLY REALLY REALLY rough concepts, taken them as personal attacks, thrown it out the window and decided to make more rough concepts... I completely agree, I feel really insulted that my opinions get thrown out. Welcome to Kansas, where you can see your future, literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECUFan25 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Instead, maybe we should all say what we like about them, maybe it will change. Here's mine: The London and Paris fonts aren't illegible, like some fonts on these boards These boards need more videogame/comic jersey concepts You aren't afraid to go out and try new things, even if you know you will probably get bad feedback. You use abstract art, one of my favorite aspects of design BRIGHT COLORS!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujju2 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 2 hours ago, ECUFan25 said: ... You aren't afraid to go out and try new things, even if you know you will probably get bad feedback. Honestly, I don't think he expected bad feedback. Seems like he's expecting great praise, from the way he's been handling our constructive criticism. I think I'll just stop now, This thread is getting far too much attention as it stands. The OP can try again if he wants to improve and is willing to listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLNHLSEGAFAN Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, ujju2 said: Honestly, I don't think he expected bad feedback. Seems like he's expecting great praise, from the way he's been handling our constructive criticism. I think I'll just stop now, This thread is getting far too much attention as it stands. The OP can try again if he wants to improve and is willing to listen. 2 hours ago, ECUFan25 said: Instead, maybe we should all say what we like about them, maybe it will change. Here's mine: The London and Paris fonts aren't illegible, like some fonts on these boards These boards need more videogame/comic jersey concepts You aren't afraid to go out and try new things, even if you know you will probably get bad feedback. You use abstract art, one of my favorite aspects of design BRIGHT COLORS!!!!!!!!!! Exactly. We need to change the mood of all this. All thy bad posts shalt be ridden of by the administrators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujju2 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 They're not "bad posts," mind you. They are constructive criticism. As I said, listening to the criticism will only make you better. Start slow. Take one team. listen to the feedback. improve. Then move to the next team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcake Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 15 hours ago, Whittier S said: Jlnhlsegafan is not going to pay attention to constructive criticism. This has been established. Let's let this thread sink. 14 hours ago, chcarlson23 said: I'm going to agree with this. He's taken all constructive criticism that we've given him on REALLY REALLY REALLY rough concepts, taken them as personal attacks, thrown it out the window and decided to make more rough concepts... 14 hours ago, RedfieldNick said: I completely agree, I feel really insulted that my opinions get thrown out. 10 minutes ago, ujju2 said: They're not "bad posts," mind you. They are constructive criticism. As I said, listening to the criticism will only make you better. Start slow. Take one team. listen to the feedback. improve. Then move to the next team. I agree with all of this. If you can't take constructive criticism, if you know going in that you're not going to change anything, what is the point of posting this concept? Being able to take constructive criticism is a sign of maturity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZionEagle Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 JLNHLSEGAFAN, I suggest you learn a little lesson here by accepting some of the criticism offered. You have to understand that constructive criticism is almost always good, and the people giving it are doing it ultimately, for your benefit. Mind you, criticism isn't always going to be ego boosting, but that doesn't mean you should disregard it as "bad". Take it from a person who's heard quite a bit of criticism in their time here (And hasn't always had the best response to it), the goal is to help you improve your concept. And if you can't take a little heat, you won't be able to make gold. None of us are trying to be rude or mean here, the fact is that most of the people who posted here actually cared enough to give you suggestions on how you could make these better. Sometimes it's hard to accept criticism when you think what you're shelling out is good enough, but I suggest you roll with it and listen to the folks here. Don't just throw their ideas out, you might actually learn something. Maybe try doing some of these again? Practice makes perfect. And if you don't respect what people are saying here, I can guarantee you won't last long on the boards. "Winners never quit, and quitters never win." ~Vince Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetris1983 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 20 hours ago, Uglybus said: So instead of going back and revising the original 4 you had, you decided to make 20 more? These all look as bad as the first ones. It's not 20, Uglybus; it's 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetris1983 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 23 hours ago, JLNHLSEGAFAN said: Wish granted. BTW: The Russian text reads "Moskva Camouflage" and "SETOGUCHI", while the Greek text reads "Athens Crocodiles" and "Ovechkin". I can't read the name, number, or wordmark for Madrid's team; I know that the 'C' stands for 'captain', but I can't read the rest. I'm confused. Can you help me out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLNHLSEGAFAN Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, tetris1983 said: I can't read the name, number, or wordmark for Madrid's team; I know that the 'C' stands for 'captain', but I can't read the rest. I'm confused. Can you help me out? The number is 2. The name is Eichel, while the wordmark says Madrid Psychos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetris1983 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, JLNHLSEGAFAN said: The number is 2. The name is Eichel, while the wordmark says Madrid Psychos. Thanks. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FlyingBuckeye7 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Ok. Doing nothing to your original designs even after countless C&C from many people and then continuing to do more is against everything posting the concept is for. If you don't want help, don't post it. And I will say that some people have been very cruel on this thread and that's not ok either. We are here to help not bring down. I would also like to add that some people have brilliant imaginations and ideas. This potentially is a good maybe even great idea. But without any real skill and refining, it crash and burns. Some people just aren't good at doing computer concepts. I suggest putting this on the request boards possibly and having others post their ideas to help you. For example, I never post concepts because I know I am terrible at them. Just keep your head up and try to get better and then repost a more refined version of your original concepts later. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcake Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 8 minutes ago, FlyingBuckeye7 said: Ok. Doing nothing to your original designs even after countless C&C from many people and then continuing to do more is against everything posting the concept is for. If you don't want help, don't post it. And I will say that some people have been very cruel on this thread and that's not ok either. We are here to help not bring down. I would also like to add that some people have brilliant imaginations and ideas. This potentially is a good maybe even great idea. But without any real skill and refining, it crash and burns. Some people just aren't good at doing computer concepts. I suggest putting this on the request boards possibly and having others post their ideas to help you. For example, I never post concepts because I know I am terrible at them. Just keep your head up and try to get better and then repost a more refined version of your original concepts later. Good luck! Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrobandito Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Is there a reason why you're using the video game renders for the sweaters instead of a more simple design, such as the Sonic Team logo that was shown in this thread earlier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksBrad Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, FlyingBuckeye7 said: Ok. Doing nothing to your original designs even after countless C&C from many people and then continuing to do more is against everything posting the concept is for. If you don't want help, don't post it. And I will say that some people have been very cruel on this thread and that's not ok either. We are here to help not bring down. I would also like to add that some people have brilliant imaginations and ideas. This potentially is a good maybe even great idea. But without any real skill and refining, it crash and burns. Some people just aren't good at doing computer concepts. I suggest putting this on the request boards possibly and having others post their ideas to help you. For example, I never post concepts because I know I am terrible at them. Just keep your head up and try to get better and then repost a more refined version of your original concepts later. Good luck! This post should be this guys last chance. If he doesn't take your advice then we all need to move on and let this die. You are 100%, the purpose of posting here is to get help refining your product. You (OP) seem to not want that, then that's too bad but don't expect us to like the crappy product that you don't seem to want to get help making better. Now, do you want help making these better or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenonDesigns Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Can't tell if this is one whole troll or if it's serious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujju2 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Not at all trying to sound mean or rude here, although I do realize there is a fair chance somebody will take it that way. First, I will reiterate that negative feedback is not "bad" feedback. To the OP, if you look around these boards, which I again think you should do a bit more, you will realize that the vast majority of threads here do not receive as much negative comments as this one. This doesn't make you or your concepts inherently bad, but there is a lot that can be improved on. The negative comments are from people who both can and want (at least originally) to help you improve. For example, the very fact that you had to tell us what the name and number on Madrid were means that the font doesn't work. Looking at the second set of concepts, I do see some interesting ideas, however, I say again, TAKE IT SLOW. If there is a computer you can use, use it. Use MS Paint or download a free program such as Inkscape. It's what I use. Learn the program, whichever one you use, and make sure the execution meets the standards of the idea. As for fonts, I'd suggest starting with Conrad's thread. Again, we're all here to help you. Look around these boards. Look at (most) professional leagues. I think that will help you most of all. For example, the Reds. Not a bad design overall. Striping suits the city. However, no red. Reds should be red. Make it red. Also, work on execution. That might improve a bit if you use a better program, such as Inkscape or even MS Paint, but you'll still have to work at it. Best of luck, hope you decide to listen to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jj... Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 this thread = soap opera i just can't believe OP made 20 of these concepts lmaoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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