GDAWG Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 5 hours ago, McCall said: In case this was never covered, this past summer, The Athletic did a player's poll on potential expansion cities they'd like to play in. Nashville was the overwhelming winner. Las Vegas was left off as this was done after the A's announced their intentions to relocate, but Oakland was on it and garnered no votes, less than Salt Lake City, Vancouver and San Juan, PR. Nashville isn't surprising to say the least. It's the best option of all of the expansion cities although I do not know how they are going to have the funds left over for a new MLB Ballpark, the new Titans stadium and any potential renovations made to Bridgestone Arena. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowler Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 If Charlotte had a strong ownership group with a rock solid ballpark plan, they would be a shoe in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolob Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 5 hours ago, GDAWG said: Nashville isn't surprising to say the least. It's the best option of all of the expansion cities although I do not know how they are going to have the funds left over for a new MLB Ballpark, the new Titans stadium and any potential renovations made to Bridgestone Arena. Almost feels like a Minnesota 2.0 stadium situation. Quote "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." Lily Tomlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolob Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, Fowler said: If Charlotte had a strong ownership group with a rock solid ballpark plan, they would be a shoe in. I don't know anymore? Raleigh seems like a better option. But, outside of that, I'd still rank Nashville ahead of Charlotte if they're only taking one east coast team. 1 Quote "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." Lily Tomlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 10 hours ago, Fowler said: If Charlotte had a strong ownership group with a rock solid ballpark plan, they would be a shoe in. Sorry, a language comment. It's "shoo-in", an expression that comes from horse racing. OK, carry on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rich Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said: Sorry, a language comment. It's"shoo-in", an expression that comes from horse racing. OK, carry on. 2 Quote It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 At a St Petersburg council meeting, the Rays gave a presentation on the new stadium development project. Apparently part of the agreement is the Rays play one game, wearing "St Petersburg Rays" jerseys (pending MLB approval). To me this just screams the whole "Anaheim" schtick, that city forced the Angels to do, where the city didnt want to be little brother to Los Angeles so the team compromised with the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim bs. St Pete doesnt want to play little brother to Tampa. I mean, theres a reason why its called Tampa Bay and not St Petersburg Bay. Not to mention the 4+1 rule for jerseys now. Would the St Petersburg jersey be considered a special jersey like the Boston Patriots Day jersey or the Jays Canada Day jersey? 1 Quote Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 5 hours ago, kimball said: I don't know anymore? Raleigh seems like a better option. But, outside of that, I'd still rank Nashville ahead of Charlotte if they're only taking one east coast team. Raleigh's bid got bolstered when Carolina Hurricanes Owner Tom Dundon expressed interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 43 minutes ago, Dilbert said: At a St Petersburg council meeting, the Rays gave a presentation on the new stadium development project. Apparently part of the agreement is the Rays play one game, wearing "St Petersburg Rays" jerseys (pending MLB approval). To me this just screams the whole "Anaheim" schtick, that city forced the Angels to do, where the city didnt want to be little brother to Los Angeles so the team compromised with the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim bs. St Pete doesnt want to play little brother to Tampa. I mean, theres a reason why its called Tampa Bay and not St Petersburg Bay. Not to mention the 4+1 rule for jerseys now. Would the St Petersburg jersey be considered a special jersey like the Boston Patriots Day jersey or the Jays Canada Day jersey? Best solution? Use this as a Friday alt 3 1 1 Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walk-Off Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 17 hours ago, McCall said: In case this was never covered, this past summer, The Athletic did a player's poll on potential expansion cities they'd like to play in. Nashville was the overwhelming winner. Las Vegas was left off as this was done after the A's announced their intentions to relocate, but Oakland was on it and garnered no votes, less than Salt Lake City, Vancouver and San Juan, PR. Oakland's inability to garner even one vote in that poll adds fuel to the fire of my mixed feelings regarding the current attempt to move the Athletics to the Las Vegas market. As badly as I feel for the many working-class people who at least seem to abound within the present-day fanbase of the A's, and as miserly and as generally unsympathetic as John Fisher and the overall current A's ownership group have proven to be, I also wonder if too few people in the #FisherOut / #SellTheTeam movement have thought enough about what can and should be done to make Oakland a more attractive destination for not only owners of major-league professional sports teams, but also the people who get paid to play for such teams. As an aside, while no one in that poll volunteered to express a preference for San José, I am curious as to how that particular Bay Area city would have fared had the pollster(s) made it an active option. 6 hours ago, Fowler said: If Charlotte had a strong ownership group with a rock solid ballpark plan, they would be a shoo-in. 6 hours ago, kimball said: Raleigh seems like a better option. But, outside of that, I'd still rank Nashville ahead of Charlotte if they're only taking one east coast team. The last time that I can recall any semblance of an active campaign for a Charlotte MLB team was at least two decades ago. Since then, I have had an impression that the Charlotte area's business elite, media, and general public have all been resting on their proverbial laurels and assuming rather strongly and stubbornly that their metropolis has had a lock on getting an MLB team either through a relocation or from the next batch of expansion franchises. To use a metaphor inspired by Aesop, I think that in terms of having a future as the home of an MLB club, Charlotte has been a hare while the likes of Nashville, Portland, Salt Lake City, and -- to use an example from within North Carolina -- Raleigh have all been tortoises. 1 hour ago, Dilbert said: At a St Petersburg council meeting, the Rays gave a presentation on the new stadium development project. Apparently part of the agreement is the Rays play one game, wearing "St Petersburg Rays" jerseys (pending MLB approval). To me this just screams the whole "Anaheim" schtick, that city forced the Angels to do, where the city didnt want to be little brother to Los Angeles so the team compromised with the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim bs. St Pete doesnt want to play little brother to Tampa. I seem to recall that Tropicana Field (originally the Florida Suncoast Dome) was itself a product of an unwillingness within St. Petersburg's business and political establishments to let their city accept a stature below that of Tampa; Bob Andelman's book Stadium for Rent: Tampa Bay's Quest for Major League Baseball seems to make that point clear in an early chapter. Now, if, indeed, the Rays are obliged to wear a St. Petersburg-themed jersey as a condition of replacing the Trop with another ballpark in that city, then that only furthers my belief that Stuart Sternberg made a lazy and cowardly decision by choosing to keep the team in St. Pete and not seeming to work harder to secure a new home field in Tampa or elsewhere in Hillsborough County. Oh, well ... at least a St. Pete tribute jersey worn by a St. Pete-based MLB team would do a lot to put the "City" in "City Connect". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Would this be considered malicious compliance? My solution: The team wears throwbacks of their former Florida State League club (1997-00), the St Petersburg Devil Rays. 1 2 Quote Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 12 hours ago, Dilbert said: At a St Petersburg council meeting, the Rays gave a presentation on the new stadium development project. Apparently part of the agreement is the Rays play one game, wearing "St Petersburg Rays" jerseys (pending MLB approval). To me this just screams the whole "Anaheim" schtick, that city forced the Angels to do, where the city didnt want to be little brother to Los Angeles so the team compromised with the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim bs. St Pete doesnt want to play little brother to Tampa. I mean, theres a reason why its called Tampa Bay and not St Petersburg Bay. Not to mention the 4+1 rule for jerseys now. Would the St Petersburg jersey be considered a special jersey like the Boston Patriots Day jersey or the Jays Canada Day jersey? Make it the City Connect and call it a day. The Rays still have to release their City Connect, so its possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Dilbert said: Would this be considered malicious compliance? My solution: The team wears throwbacks of their former Florida State League club (1997-00), the St Petersburg Devil Rays. That's....... actually not terrible. Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, BBTV said: That's....... actually not terrible. The StP produces a better insignia than TB, especially with the ray. Better visual balance? 1 Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 minute ago, SFGiants58 said: The StP produces a better insignia than TB, especially with the ray. Better visual balance? If they wanted to make a more traditional hat (meaning a simple one or two color monogram without the ray), that STP would work really well. I dig it. Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 On 10/25/2023 at 11:46 PM, FiddySicks said: I would love to see more players come out against owners. Hell, we should all be more hostile to billionaires just in general. Remember when Chelios basically threatened to send hired goons to Bettman's house? Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 On 10/26/2023 at 10:08 PM, Dilbert said: At a St Petersburg council meeting, the Rays gave a presentation on the new stadium development project. Apparently part of the agreement is the Rays play one game, wearing "St Petersburg Rays" jerseys (pending MLB approval). "St. Petersburg Rays" sounds okay, and if they'd rebranded as that in 2008 to make a cleaner break from "Tampa Bay Devil Rays," I wouldn't have minded, but this isn't just a dopey half-measure, it's a dopey 1/81-measure. Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Would a TSP (or TStP) monogram (Yankees style) work? Brighter colors, and maybe incorporate the stupid "glint" in there? Alternatively, StP could change its name to Tampa Lite, and then we don't have an issue. Alternatively, that area doesn't have a team. That also solves all the problems. 1 1 Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 It’s made all the more stupid that the team’s named after a freaking body of water and could just have easily been the Tampa Rays if not to appease Little Brother Across the Bridge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Just now, LMU said: It’s made all the more stupid that the team’s named after a freaking body of water and could just have easily been the Tampa Rays if not to appease Little Brother Across the Bridge. In their defense, while the metro area isn't called "Tampa Bay", colloquially the metro area is known as that, there's precedent with another sports team, and there's at least one newspaper that goes by Tampa Bay (Tampa Bay Times... although a google search reveals that it was the St Petersburg times up until around 10 years ago). Though to your point, it would be like Philadelphia teams being called "Delaware Valley Eagles", though there's no city in the DelVal region that would possibly be ticked by that, with the possible exception of the state of NJ had the Sixers moved there as planned. Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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