MLB 2024 Uniform/Logo Changes

[MJWalker45]

9 minutes ago, M59 said:

Given that this game is being played in Texas, why do these "jerseys" look like they were inspired by the Diamondbacks' Cash Grab Connect set and the Marlins black alternate jersey? 
"You made the MLB All-Star team...and your reward is to play an extra game in these sartorial abominations! Congrats, guys!"
(Just to break trend, I will note that I don't hate the contrasting sleeves and "sun collar". There,Nike designers, I've written something nice about your work. Now...do better work!)

It feels like when the NBA had the game in Indiana using uniforms designed for Atlanta. I guess the idea is to not just stick to the normal home team colors, but they could have used the powder blue and red against navy and red and it's a much better look. 

[SavardToColton]

For the most part (with a few exceptions as I can see and acknowledge) I can assume I'm preaching to the choir when I express that I do wish the All Star Game still had each player wear their own team's uniforms. Just one of those little things that set MLB's All Star Game apart as a tradition from the other league's all star festivities, especially when said others are definitely not providing the product they used to. While I guess it won't be like it was when teams like the Mariners and Rays have gotten rid of their grey jerseys, it would still be welcome to revert. And it's just a shame that tradition is making way for dreadful jerseys like these ones, as a form of salt in the wound.

[Dynasty]

2 hours ago, CaliforniaGlowin said:

I love the coral and light blue! I wonder why those were chosen.

 

59 minutes ago, M59 said:

Given that this game is being played in Texas, why do these "jerseys" look like they were inspired by the Diamondbacks' Cash Grab Connect set and the Marlins black alternate jersey? 

 

Since the theme of the All-Star Game seems to invoke the Old West, I would assume they are basing it on one of those American Southwest color palettes. Maybe like with arts and crafts?

 

 

 

 

Or maybe with actual geography...

 

 

Granted, this feels much more appropriate for Arizona more-so than Texas, but the latter is usually considered part of the Southwest to a degree.

[M59]

21 hours ago, Dynasty said:

 

 

Since the theme of the All-Star Game seems to invoke the Old West, I would assume they are basing it on one of those American Southwest color palettes. Maybe like with arts and crafts?

 

 

 

 

Or maybe with actual geography...

 

 

Granted, this feels much more appropriate for Arizona more-so than Texas, but the latter is usually considered part of the Southwest to a degree.

That may or may not be the case, but it still represents a radical departure from the previous use of the hosting team's colors on the All-Star Game jerseys. While--if you squint really hard--you can see a resemblance to the Rangers block font here, the font looks more like an inept attempt at a Red Sox throwback. The number font is yet another Nike "change for its own sake" concoction, and isn't related to the Rangers' set at all. 
If the Orioles ever host an All-Star Game again (finally more likely now with the ownership change), I'd be hugely disappointed if the jerseys base colors were red and yellow "because those colors are in the Maryland flag and are worn by the University of Maryland and are representative of the state". The state (or region, or whatever) isn't hosting the damned game. The team is. 

[The_Admiral]

I'd have a hard time calling Dallas the Southwest or even the West. It's well east of the 100th meridian, more a confluence of the Great Plains and the South than anything. But then anything in Texas is notoriously hard to assign to a region.

[damnyoutuesday]

7 hours ago, The_Admiral said:

I'd have a hard time calling Dallas the Southwest or even the West. It's well east of the 100th meridian, more a confluence of the Great Plains and the South than anything. But then anything in Texas is notoriously hard to assign to a region.

Texans love to claim "Southwest" even though they're in the middle of the US

[Dynasty]

I tend to consider Texas as one of those states that fall into multiple regions. Maybe Houston and East Texas with the rest of the South, Austin and Dallas and the central part being within the Great Plains, South Texas in the Rio Grande Valley, and anything west of San Antonio to be arguably Southwest. Or really, you could just claim the state is its own region, which many Texans seem to do.

 

Anyways, to stay on topic, I'm not saying I agree with the usage of southwestern colors, as it was really just some speculation on my part.

[hormone]

The pirates are warming up in BP/Black script alt/black CC pants. I’ll update closer to game time…edit…and they’re in home whites…or in their case alternate whites. I jumped gun too early. Pregame had bednar throwing to a batter both dressed that way this morning 

[Silent Wind of Doom]

On 7/5/2024 at 9:35 AM, The_Admiral said:

I'd have a hard time calling Dallas the Southwest or even the West. It's well east of the 100th meridian, more a confluence of the Great Plains and the South than anything. But then anything in Texas is notoriously hard to assign to a region.

 

In this country, I think it's more that "West" is a nebulous concept.  Not because it's hard to figure out, but because of the nation's history and population distribution.

 

Early on, anything past the Appalachians was the untamed West and before that it was even closer.  Combine that with the specific sport we're talking about beginning in the East where Minnesota and Kansas City were among early Western cities.  Kansas City was always the one who tripped me up over this being the Gateway to the West but so far East and farther that way than the entirety of Texas by far.  In football it's still in the West.  In Hockey Chicago is still the West.  Meanwhile, the line that divides the US population in two is in Indiana.

"The West" has a wide definition based on historical, cultural, and population matters.  It "feels" different for each person based on their life experience and how they've come into contact with the idea.  As an East-Coaster who thinks of it with respect to old movies, Texas felt from my childhood like the Southwest/West based on its historical leaning on such iconography.  Although looking at MLB alignment, that really sucks for travel.

 

The truth, of course, its that it's so big that it straddles all the lines and falls in several different categories like @Dynasty said.

[Digby]

On 2024-07-04 at 11:43 AM, Dynasty said:

Since the theme of the All-Star Game seems to invoke the Old West, I would assume they are basing it on one of those American Southwest color palettes. Maybe like with arts and crafts?

 

 

If that is the case, it's a confounding mix of design languages that shows the limits of "mash-up" as a design brief. As what you posted illustrates, the color scheme inspired by Native crafts is closely related to the patterns and materials also in that realm. You don't really see those colors on westward expansion-settler cowboy wear. They may both be Texan-Southwestern but that doesn't mean they work as a blend.

 

There might be a clever way to mix Desert Southwest with Old-timey Wild West with '80s Truck Stop chic, but I don't know what it is. Those all have solid claim to feel Texan in the context of this event but I think you need to pick a lane here.

[gosioux76]

On 7/5/2024 at 8:35 AM, The_Admiral said:

I'd have a hard time calling Dallas the Southwest or even the West. It's well east of the 100th meridian, more a confluence of the Great Plains and the South than anything. But then anything in Texas is notoriously hard to assign to a region.

Not only that, but Dallas has for at least 40 years promoted an air of Cowboy Cosmopolitan Chic, which leans closer to Wall Street and glitz than it does to anything "Southwest." (Fort Worth is a different story, of course.) Dallas' grasp at wanting to be a little bit of everything makes it harder to pin down. 

[The_Admiral]

4 hours ago, Silent Wind of Doom said:

"The West" has a wide definition based on historical, cultural, and population matters.  It "feels" different for each person based on their life experience and how they've come into contact with the idea.  As an East-Coaster who thinks of it with respect to old movies, Texas felt from my childhood like the Southwest/West based on its historical leaning on such iconography.  Although looking at MLB alignment, that really sucks for travel.

 

The truth, of course, its that it's so big that it straddles all the lines and falls in several different categories like @Dynasty said.

 

The one that got on my nerves was the 2000s dusty-ol-cowboy motif for the Houston Astros, East Texas being the unequivocally Southern part of the state (humid, Baptist, more black than Hispanic). Not that the shooting-star stuff ever particularly spoke to any of that, of course, but the lasso letters certainly didn't.

[M59]

1 minute ago, The_Admiral said:

 

The one that got on my nerves was the 2000s dusty-ol-cowboy motif for the Houston Astros, East Texas being the unequivocally Southern part of the state (humid, Baptist, more black than Hispanic). Not that the shooting-star stuff ever particularly spoke to any of that, of course, but the lasso letters certainly didn't.

Have to say, though, that the chainstitched versions of that kit were rather nice. (Although I never liked the number font.)

[FiddySicks]

3 hours ago, The_Admiral said:

 

The one that got on my nerves was the 2000s dusty-ol-cowboy motif for the Houston Astros, East Texas being the unequivocally Southern part of the state (humid, Baptist, more black than Hispanic). Not that the shooting-star stuff ever particularly spoke to any of that, of course, but the lasso letters certainly didn't.

That one was frustrating because in a vacuum, it’s one of my favorite looks in baseball history. I know there’s a particular dislike of the static cutout star, but I thought it was kind of perfect. It just didn’t really work for the Astros. But I don’t like any version of the navy and orange clip art Star they use, either. 

[Anubis2051]

9 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

That one was frustrating because in a vacuum, it’s one of my favorite looks in baseball history. I know there’s a particular dislike of the static cutout star, but I thought it was kind of perfect. It just didn’t really work for the Astros. But I don’t like any version of the navy and orange clip art Star they use, either. 

 

This look was great for them. Halfway between this and the current look would be perfect. 

 

[damnyoutuesday]

31 minutes ago, Anubis2051 said:

 

This look was great for them. Halfway between this and the current look would be perfect. 

 

This look screamed "Indy Ball" to me

[BBTV]

48 minutes ago, Anubis2051 said:

 

This look was great for them. Halfway between this and the current look would be perfect. 

 

 

I liked that a lot, but it was a little jarring seeing them go from having bright-colorful trim to being essentially black and white (technically dark navy).  But for playing in the dome, it worked.  The roads were nice too once they enhanced the word mark after the first season or two.

 

The train-Astros look was so dumb.  You're the Astros - can't have an old-western train gimmick.  Not only did the word mark have flaws, but the broken star logo didn't look good to me at all.  

 

The shooting-star look but with modern fonts is the perfect look for them.  Someone did a great concept (was it @The_Admiral?) years and years ago that made it look both classic and contemporary.  I'd like that better than the traditional look that they currently wear.

[Carolingian Steamroller]

1 hour ago, Anubis2051 said:

 

This look was great for them. Halfway between this and the current look would be perfect. 

 

 

I loved this when I was 12 years old.

[FiddySicks]

8 hours ago, Anubis2051 said:

 

This look was great for them. Halfway between this and the current look would be perfect. 

 

I liked that look too. I’m also a sucker for metallic threading, and this had a ton of that. 
 

I still like the shape and feel of the static star better, but the italic star is a good look as well. 

[BBTV]

17 hours ago, FiddySicks said:

I liked that look too. I’m also a sucker for metallic threading, and this had a ton of that. 
 

I still like the shape and feel of the static star better, but the italic star is a good look as well. 

 

I can kinda justify an italic / "moving" star being broken like that, but the static one looked like someone forgot to draw a line.