2024 NFL Changes

[Silver_Star]

58 minutes ago, DCarp1231 said:

For the superstitious folk around here, the Chargers picked the wrong blue to drop

 

vs The Baltimore Ravens?

 

[FiddySicks]

4 hours ago, MCM0313 said:

The sand-colored road set, though…something about that wordmark looks dated, and a couple pops of a third color could’ve gone a long way. 

Yup. The Bow tie looking SanDiegO road script wasn’t great, and they could’ve definitely found a way to incorporate light blue a bit more throughout the set. The idea was there, though, and if they were ever gonna stick with navy blue, that was the way to do it. But then they dropped the sand for traditional gray, and at that point none of the navy stuff was really worth salvaging so they made the right choice by bringing back brown and gold. 
 

I’m pretty sure that particular set was incorporated with the opening of PetCo Park. That’s kind of been a thing this century, to make new stadium themed jersey sets (Giants, Padres, Twins, Astros just off the top of my head). Some of them have been fantastic (Giants), some… not so great (Twins). 

[Dynasty]

22 hours ago, DCarp1231 said:

You could probably say that about any letter logo.

 

Teams like the Bears (pre-bear head) and Packers have longevity to their letter logos, strengthening into a brand with time. Maybe it would be different had the Commanders did the same, but theirs is from recent times and I don't find it to be an excuse in the 2020's. They could've done better.

 

9 hours ago, ptay said:

 

It needs something added to it. Even when that Dan Quinn picture surfaced of him wearing that W with the feather from the old logo, it looked way more interesting.

 

Also, it frustrates me that the only time the logo truly pops is against a black background (which shouldn't be a team color anyways). Most of the time, I see it presented as a burgundy logo against a burgundy background, which makes it even more bland. 

 

It stands out well enough on a burgundy background when it's entirely gold. I don't know why they don't do that more often in other instances like media. I mean, they do it with their own helmets, for heaven's sake.

 

[VDizzle12]

9 hours ago, DCarp1231 said:

For the superstitious folk around here, the Chargers picked the wrong blue to drop

 

I'm just going to ignore the idiotic "best uniforms in the NFL" caption. Can't even say they are in the top 10. 

 

But anyways I'm really surprised the Chargers of all teams haven't introduced an alternate helmet yet. The navys, and now discontinued royal blues, both would have looked better with a colored shell. 

 

 

[Carolingian Steamroller]

4 hours ago, Dynasty said:

 

Teams like the Bears (pre-bear head) and Packers have longevity to their letter logos, strengthening into a brand with time. Maybe it would be different had the Commanders did the same, but theirs is from recent times and I don't find it to be an excuse in the 2020's. They could've done better.

 

 

It stands out well enough on a burgundy background when it's entirely gold. I don't know why they don't do that more often in other instances like media. I mean, they do it with their own helmets, for heaven's sake.

 

 

Back in the early 60's,  Pete Roselle pushed for teams to incorporate emblems on their helmets to make the teams identifiable on TV.

This is why the Chicago Bears wore a plain white "C" with no outline as opposed to the orange/white version they wear now.

Compare the Bears sleeve stripes in this shot from 1963 which use the same pattern as the current wishbone "C," the helmet logo stands out very clearly so if you turned on a 12 inch black and white TV, you could immediately pick up that it's the Bears. Ditto for the Giants who also are wearing a plain white insignia.



I think there is a lot of value in this approach. The helmet logo should be something that makes the team instantly recognizable as THAT team. I think the "W" on the Commanders does the job. It's not the design I wanted (Football Team Forever!) but it at least works on a practical level.

[ruttep]

7 hours ago, VDizzle12 said:

 

I'm just going to ignore the idiotic "best uniforms in the NFL" caption. Can't even say they are in the top 10. 

 

But anyways I'm really surprised the Chargers of all teams haven't introduced an alternate helmet yet. The navys, and now discontinued royal blues, both would have looked better with a colored shell. 

 

 

 

What is your top 10?

[The_Admiral]

I don't have a problem with Washington using a W, but I'm not a fan of what they're using now, or what they used as the Football Team, or really any of their design decisions outside of 2002.

 

I would have tried to do a W in the style of the Joe Gibbs R hat, while hopefully avoiding the Curly W that the Nats use (who should be building the brand around DC, anyway). It's still close-ish, of course, but has better organizational continuity.

 

 

 

[DCarp1231]

Once again posting my yearning for these throwbacks (faux?) full time. Just match the pants color to the gold on the numbers and we have ourselves a winner.

[Carolingian Steamroller]

5 hours ago, DCarp1231 said:

Once again posting my yearning for these throwbacks (faux?) full time. Just match the pants color to the gold on the numbers and we have ourselves a winner.

That is more or less what the Commanders are doing in bringing back the gold pants. 

Burgundy helmet and jersey, gold numbers with a white outline, gold pants, burgundy socks.

Could the color shades be closer to the throwbacks? Sure. That's a change I'd welcome in a heartbeat but I can see why they'd stick with what fans are more familiar with. One thing I'd for sure like to see is the charcoal facemask be used full time. It's a really nice color and that helmet looks like its needs something other than mono burgundy. Don't know If I'd like the gold to come back because the details are all gold themselves. 

[pepis21]

6 hours ago, DCarp1231 said:

Once again posting my yearning for these throwbacks (faux?) full time. Just match the pants color to the gold on the numbers and we have ourselves a winner.

Yes, but only with this helmet:

[jc...]

I'm surprised vinyl wraps haven't become more common. I am sure they have been tested. I always figured the time and cost is what prevented that solution for getting around the old one helmet rule. And durability. 

[Blast_Brothers]

2 hours ago, jc... said:

I'm surprised vinyl wraps haven't become more common. I am sure they have been tested. I always figured the time and cost is what prevented that solution for getting around the old one helmet rule. And durability. 

 

There was a Uni Watch interview a while ago with a guy trying to sell vinyl wraps. I think he said the biggest hurdle was that it was ambiguous if it violated the helmet's warranty or not. Considering that Guardian caps exist now, that might not be an issue anymore; but maybe it creates a situation where high schools and smaller programs don't want to take the risk, and bigger programs have the funds to just buy two helmets.

[HOOVER]

On 9/3/2024 at 2:34 PM, Carolingian Steamroller said:

That is more or less what the Commanders are doing in bringing back the gold pants. 

Burgundy helmet and jersey, gold numbers with a white outline, gold pants, burgundy socks.

Could the color shades be closer to the throwbacks? Sure. That's a change I'd welcome in a heartbeat but I can see why they'd stick with what fans are more familiar with. One thing I'd for sure like to see is the charcoal facemask be used full time. It's a really nice color and that helmet looks like its needs something other than mono burgundy. Don't know If I'd like the gold to come back because the details are all gold themselves. 

The addition of the Gold pants has nearly salvaged their home look.

Their helmets actually look great and the Gold pants provide the requisite balance that was needed.

Scrapping/modifying the wordmark and going back to their (Mod Edit) Washington number font would make this uniform completely acceptable.

[Carolingian Steamroller]

23 hours ago, HOOVER said:

The addition of the Gold pants has nearly salvaged their home look.

Their helmets actually look great and the Gold pants provide the requisite balance that was needed.

Scrapping/modifying the wordmark and going back to their 'Skins number font would make this uniform completely acceptable.

 

I'll tolerate the stencil numbers if they just drop the chest wordmark.

They want to make the stencil numbers their thing, fine so long as their nothing else cluttering up the front.

When it comes to the road jersey, just drop the gradients and swap the black elements for gold. Will it be my favorite? No but it will at least be functional.

[HOOVER]

On 9/5/2024 at 10:17 AM, Carolingian Steamroller said:

 

I'll tolerate the stencil numbers if they just drop the chest wordmark.

They want to make the stencil numbers their thing, fine so long as their nothing else cluttering up the front.

When it comes to the road jersey, just drop the gradients and swap the black elements for gold. Will it be my favorite? No but it will at least be functional.

I would welcome stencil numbers if they ditched the wordmark AND the rinky-dink high school girls volleyball jersey number font and went back to the original full block:

 

 

And yes, ditch the Black on the Away jerseys and get back to Gold:

 

 

Stencil the Full Block like this and you're completely fine:

 

 

NOTE:  It's a shame they went away from the (Mod Edit) Washington uniform, it really was iconic.  The WFT helmet is what held it back; put the new Commanders helmet on that old uniform and call it a franchise.

[tBBP]

1 hour ago, HOOVER said:

I would welcome stencil numbers if they ditched the wordmark AND the rinky-dink high school girls volleyball jersey number font and went back to the original full block:

 

 

And yes, ditch the Black on the Away jerseys and get back to Gold:

 

 

Stencil the Full Block like this and you're completely fine:

 

 

NOTE:  It's a shame they went away from the 'Skins uniform, it really was iconic.  The WFT helmet is what held it back; put the new Commanders helmet on that old uniform and call it a franchise.

 

I don't know how it took me this long to realize the Commies'  burgundy jerseys' numbers are stenciled while the white jerseys' numbers are not...like what da eff?? 

 

Also, only because that Army picture is posted: again, further proof that the New Orleans Saitna can opt to color-correct if they so chose...Nuke can obviously pull off the fabric color. (NFL Properties would see to the helmets, with input from the team.)

[WSU151]

14 minutes ago, tBBP said:

 

I don't know how it took me this long to realize the Commies'  burgundy jerseys' numbers are stenciled while the white jerseys' numbers are not...like what da eff?? 

 

Also, only because that Army picture is posted: again, further proof that the New Orleans Saitna can opt to color-correct if they so chose...Nuke can obviously pull off the fabric color. (NFL Properties would see to the helmets, with input from the team.)

 

The Saints/Nike do have dark gold at the ready...for some reason they think the light tan is better. 

 

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[WBeltz]

2 hours ago, HOOVER said:

I would welcome stencil numbers if they ditched the wordmark AND the rinky-dink high school girls volleyball jersey number font and went back to the original full block:

 

 

And yes, ditch the Black on the Away jerseys and get back to Gold:

 

 

Stencil the Full Block like this and you're completely fine:

 

 

NOTE:  It's a shame they went away from the 'Skins uniform, it really was iconic.  The WFT helmet is what held it back; put the new Commanders helmet on that old uniform and call it a franchise.

You know, on the new Madden games is the old WFT/RS uni's in there? TO like Mix and Match? I don't disagree that the WFT/RS set was the best, especially with the small wordmark and the numbers, I like the idea of doing the Army style stencil, I feel like the current helmet could use a change in finish, maybe a glossier look.

[PurpleHayes]

1 hour ago, tBBP said:

 

I don't know how it took me this long to realize the Commies'  burgundy jerseys' numbers are stenciled while the white jerseys' numbers are not...like what da eff?? 

 

 

 

Blame her:

 

 

That's Tanya Snyder, former owner Dan's wife, who he allowed to design the uniforms...because she supposedly had a 'background' in fashion...have to wonder what school she went to for that, but I'm guessing they used Crayons.

[HOOVER]

22 minutes ago, WBeltz said:

You know, on the new Madden games is the old WFT/RS uni's in there? TO like Mix and Match? I don't disagree that the WFT/RS set was the best, especially with the small wordmark and the numbers, I like the idea of doing the Army style stencil, I feel like the current helmet could use a change in finish, maybe a glossier look.

 

Personal preference, I find glossy helmet shells highly overrated.   The satin look that the Commanders, Vikings, and Falcons use is far more appealing and using glossy decals provides some finish contrast that to me, works better than "all gloss".